Speaking of, The French Foreign Legion is amongst the top 5 peackeepers in the world. Maybe we should give them a little credit as the most efficient military force?
Which Country Has The Most Efficient Military Force?
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Speaking of, The French Foreign Legion is amongst the top 5 peackeepers in the world. Maybe we should give them a little credit as the most efficient military force?
Not really, they have long tradition of Imperialism, corruption, promotion of genocide, surrendering and so on...Speaking of, The French Foreign Legion is amongst the top 5 peackeepers in the world. Maybe we should give them a little credit as the most efficient military force?
Legend has it - we'll call it legend because the family member whose story this is brought a lot of Korea home with him. May he now rest in peace.... a half-inch by three-quarter inch maroon diamond affixed to tunic upper left (2 PPCLI) and 2 SSF (our Canadian Airborne Regiment) cover colour are tributes to an unofficial Purple Heart bestowed on the Regiment for wounds suffered at Kap Yong.
I have never bothered to confirm....
I have never bothered to confirm....
I've always wondered why our government didn't want our soldiers to get awards from other counties. Americans seem quite proud to get the croix de guerre from the French.
You felt the need to brag about honors? Ever seen this:I put my vote in for Canada since it took a Canadian to Command a USN ship's company which I was awarded the Highest Order of the United States Legion of Merit award.
The Legion of Merit is a military decoration of the United States armed forces that is awarded for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding services and achievements. The decoration is issued both to United States military personnel and to military and political figures of foreign governments. The Legion of Merit is one of only two United States military decorations to be issued as a neck order (the other being the Medal of Honor). courtesy: Wikipedia
CyberSEALs It's a list of names of people who bragged about being Navy Seals and were discovered as fraudulent.
If you are what you say you are, that's fine, but judging from the amount of scammers around and the fact that anyone can claim anything and post stuff from Wikipedia, being sceptical isn't a bad thing.
Anyway, I'd hardly call Canada the most efficient force around.
Canada not the most efficient?
Yes, but our government often asks our military to do much more than what we citizens are prepared to fund them to do. If we as a country want an efficient military that can do what we're asking of it we'll have to spend a lot more money. Even if all we want them to do is defend our arctic we're likely talking 10's of billions to build and purchase the capabilities to operate up there. We can't count on our US friends as they along with Russia, Denmark, and even China will be challenging our sovereignty. This is one we'll have to do on our own, if we find the will and a few dollars.
Yes, but our government often asks our military to do much more than what we citizens are prepared to fund them to do. If we as a country want an efficient military that can do what we're asking of it we'll have to spend a lot more money. Even if all we want them to do is defend our arctic we're likely talking 10's of billions to build and purchase the capabilities to operate up there. We can't count on our US friends as they along with Russia, Denmark, and even China will be challenging our sovereignty. This is one we'll have to do on our own, if we find the will and a few dollars.
AnnaG Ex-or Current military members have numbers embedded in their brains in case of capture by an enemy - these are the only information they have to surrender to their captors - under torture conditions in many cases - and the numbers are easily checked if one is asked for their number and it is offered.
Personally I think it would be an insult to check out someone's story by their number however because if people feel the need to weave a story - be glad they were not
in the regular military forces.Perhaps it was a result that the Seals groups were
made heros by movies of war stories and returning Vets....
I guess it is done on the internet but how that elevates a person's status is beyond me.....in the case of the true vets I am honored to be able to thank them.
I could recite my husband's in my sleep even now years later. He was not a Seal however.
People con others into thinking they are ex0military or are active military in real life, not just on the net. You can read some of the stories about the Seal fraudsters in the link I posted. I'm not sure but I think it is illegal to pose as a vet in either Canada or the USA.
I know in the USA there's this act which deals with using medals fraudulently:
Stolen Valor Act of 2005 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And there are these, too:
EXPOSING THE IMPOSTERS (Canadian Dispatch Rider M.U. National Site)
Phony Veterans and POW's - Article Index
Service is service, Hon, whether one was a potato peeler or a commander of something.
Anyway, I apologize to everyone for sidetracking the thread.
I still say the Swiss military is most efficient.
AnnaG
I don't believe you sidetracked the topic Anna - you added something very interesting - I had no idea this was being done - but I can see how it is easy
to 'pretend' on the internet for whatever reasons one feels the need...
I am very grateful for anyone who gave service to their nation whatever their
nationality.... I am an avowed coward and it's beyond me how anyone could train
to face an enemy in battle .... but people do and they have my admiration always.
I don't believe you sidetracked the topic Anna - you added something very interesting - I had no idea this was being done - but I can see how it is easy
to 'pretend' on the internet for whatever reasons one feels the need...
I am very grateful for anyone who gave service to their nation whatever their
nationality.... I am an avowed coward and it's beyond me how anyone could train
to face an enemy in battle .... but people do and they have my admiration always.
That is not a particularly well thought out reply. Check the kill ratio of US to soldiers to those they fight. There is no comparison.
The reply was thought out. What's more efficient - a kill with a twenty million dollar airplane - or a kill with a coffee can, a grenade and a handful of stones? Kill ratios mean shyte when you're the guy bleeding - especially when there are twenty million dollar airplanes buzzing about in hopes of keeping the sappers at home.
No disrespect Iron, but...pfffft...I still like to use this for my longrange shooting.
The C3A1 is a charm, although I have had the pleasure of using it in a limited capacity. I have a greater knowledge and log on the C3. Both of which are far more capable then they are reported to be. Considering we adopted a little USMC knowhow, I'm sure you can understand my appreciation, lol.
Now the CAF is using the Barret. I'm not fussy about it. I find it big, cumbersome and impersonal.
I wouldn't worry too much about Switzerland's armed forces. They are even less off a threat to the world than the French and German ones, and that's saying something.
They may have armed forces which number almost 135,000 personnel, but only 4,230 are professionals. The rest are conscripts or volunteers.
Its air force numbers just 1,600 personnel and just 248 aircraft and the Swiss plan to reduce its size even more. I don't think the RAF will be overly concerned.
And, being landlocked, it doesn't even have a navy.
They may have armed forces which number almost 135,000 personnel, but only 4,230 are professionals. The rest are conscripts or volunteers.
Its air force numbers just 1,600 personnel and just 248 aircraft and the Swiss plan to reduce its size even more. I don't think the RAF will be overly concerned.
And, being landlocked, it doesn't even have a navy.
Yes it is. It says that they prefer to use their military for better reasons than annoying other countries.
So? The topic of the thread is about efficiency, not effectiveness. And for what Switzerland spends on its military and what they accomplish, it is pretty efficient.
Sure we can argue the Swiss military is efficient for what its gov't requires but that same model isn't going to work for everyone.
The problem with this topic is that almost every country has different mandates that will define its effectiveness. Some of this is geographical and some is political/ideologicial. Some countries have the military performing a lot of additional duties, including but not limited to Search and Rescue (like we do in Canada), police, and customs/border patrol. How does one quantify the "effectiveness" of a military when in most cases you're comparing apples and oranges? About the best you could do is try and compare similar branches of individual countries (i.e. the navies of the world) but even then, there will be differences in the duties their respective gov'ts ask these services to perform.
I agree. Perhaps we should have categories. For instance, for the peace-keeping countries like Canada and Switzerland; for the aggressive countries like Israel, USA, and England; and so on.
