When will the UN Fire this man-
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It is one thing critiquing the tenets of religion; Islam. Christianity, Judaism, etc. are all subject to criticism. It is quite another thing to paint fellow law-abiding and peaceful citizens who practise a particular faith as "other"- to be shunned. particularly when they are a minority. It was wrong when Austria, Hungary, and Germany did it, you may recall.
By the by, I like Thor, Woden, and Freja. Fire away, my dear Captain.
Why are social issues and discontent pegged as Religious issues of hatred?
Apparently hate is too big of a word for you kids to pay with, you'd best put it down before somebody loses a finger.
Apparently hate is too big of a word for you kids to pay with, you'd best put it down before somebody loses a finger.
I didn't find Falk offensive at all. He spoke what he thinks is the truth. I thought we all stood for freedom of speech.
I also think the analogy of the Muslims being demonized the same way Native Americans were is quite correct. It was also done to the Nips, Slants, Krauts, Honkies, Wops, Spicks, Chinks, Wet Backs.... It's the America-Canadian way. We can thank our mass media propaganda machine for perpetrating the lies that all Muslims terrorist and the West stands for freedom and democracy.
I also think the analogy of the Muslims being demonized the same way Native Americans were is quite correct. It was also done to the Nips, Slants, Krauts, Honkies, Wops, Spicks, Chinks, Wet Backs.... It's the America-Canadian way. We can thank our mass media propaganda machine for perpetrating the lies that all Muslims terrorist and the West stands for freedom and democracy.
I'll be honest.
Thank God every day Durka, that we have a UN to stop us from slaughtering everyone that we think is not civilized.
Oh, come now Spade, don't be bashful here. I believe that you have also expressed severe criticisms on individuals on quite a regular basis - the Pope comes to mind on this among others.
But getting back to the comment about critiquing the tenets of a religion; is it not reasonable that Canadians critiqued the tenets held by Falk on this issue? I honestly don't see the difference here
I am happy for you that the above are of interest to you and may even represent the basis of your philosophical system.
But in the end, the difference between you and me is that I have no need, nor do I see any reason to attack you and your belief system.... Personally, I think that the practice is cowardly and is indicative of one that seeks to tear-down others as a method of bolstering themselves.
But that's just my opinion
Incidents like this don't really help on the optics side of things.
https://sites.google.com/site/ingramlougeepearson4/articles/somalia-girl-raped-and-stoned
Come on! Somalia is ruled by gangs of thugs and pirates, a country with out government and rule of law. Yes it happens. If you look at the OT, you will see the same prescriptions in there. Mohammed borrowed much of his writing from the OT, just like the Hebrews borrowed much of their writings from the Sumerians, Babylonians and Egyptians. Yes some Muslims still practice barbaric acts the Christians only gave up recently, but the media concentrates all their efforts in presenting such instances and ignoring the majority who do not participate. The media has demonized an entire religion for a purpose.
Does it sound like a free and democratic arrangement?
Why go back just to the OT... I'm certain that cro-magnon society was even worse
Interesting comment, but it still begs the analysis relative to freedom and democracy and how the various societies have evolved to date.
I don't disagree, but relate the # of instances to what you see (or can investigate) in other nations.
I don't think that you'll find too much support to suggest that this is an issue across all societies.
Some people are quick to call people who are against islamic terrorists "islamophopes".......
All religions are pretty much equal in the eyes of the creator...(as long as the religion isn't perverted and preach the destruction of a race or anyone who will not bow to their ideology)
I have been to the services of different denominations for weddings and funerals, and have even been to a few revival meetings, and not once did I laugh at their rites, even when people were falling down at the revivals (It was hard but I kept a straight face there).
Now, in this century, only one religion has been perverted and it's members likes to make things go "Boom" where the over all membership is a small percentage of the population, but cause 80% of the terrorist act....
So anyone who comes on the forum and constantly apologises for them do not get my respect...and the true Muslims who reported the terrorist attempt in Canada do.
All religions are pretty much equal in the eyes of the creator...(as long as the religion isn't perverted and preach the destruction of a race or anyone who will not bow to their ideology)
I have been to the services of different denominations for weddings and funerals, and have even been to a few revival meetings, and not once did I laugh at their rites, even when people were falling down at the revivals (It was hard but I kept a straight face there).
Now, in this century, only one religion has been perverted and it's members likes to make things go "Boom" where the over all membership is a small percentage of the population, but cause 80% of the terrorist act....
So anyone who comes on the forum and constantly apologises for them do not get my respect...and the true Muslims who reported the terrorist attempt in Canada do.
I am not alone in my view- From the article
The American global domination project is bound to generate all kinds of resistance in the post-colonial world,” wrote Falk.
“As long as Tel Aviv has the compliant ear of the American political establishment, those who wish for peace and justice in the world should not rest easy.”
UN spokesman Martin Nesirky said Wednesday that Secretary General Ban Ki-moon rejects Falk’s comments, which could undermine the UN’s credibility and work.
“The secretary general immediately condemned the Boston Marathon bombing and he strongly believes that nothing can justify such an attack,” Nesirky said
If person A is walking down an alley, in the toughest part of Brooklyn, at 3:00 am, with 100 dollar bills hanging out of his pockets, yelling at the top of his lungs that he has more money than Gawd and person B robs him, there are those that say person A "deserves it". There are those that will say person A should not bear any responsible for the poor actions of person B. Then there are people like me that believe person A needs to take reasonable and responsible steps to try not to place himself in that situation. We as a society need to try and understand the conditions that allow for the creation of person B and to try and mitigate them. This in no way suggests person B shouldn't be held accountable for his actions but the robbery is a result of many different factors. Not trying to understand the factors is just being lazy.
There was a complete sentence that doesn't end with a comma there.
Would you be the one on the right? or the one in the middle, picking the nits?
And forget about asking me to dance-:smile:
A very interesting point you bring up Da. The "perversion of religion" you mentioned above in your very finely reasoned argument for remediation is a topic I have recently begun to pay some attention to. Having hardly begun the study I was already assured that the perversion of religion is why it was propagated in the first place in the form we know and admire today. Religion usurped the Kings and monotheism replaced all the pagan gods as efficiently as any other banking project. This was already a done deal by 3500 BC in the big apples of the day and everyday since. The priesthoods of every civilization fell to silver debauchery one by one century after century and none escaped, until today we worship perversion.
My replies to you were harsh and rude - You did not deserve that. My apologies for those comments.