When the people fear the government.......

[ironsides]

Not sure what good forwarding this would do since we do not get to vote in the US anyway. Don't understand why YJ spends so much time trolling and spewing hateful lies about a government he has less than zero control over either. For the most part the carrying on in US government has no effect on us anyway other than clowns like Harper try to emulate their worst antics.
I am far more concerned about getting some politicians in Canada with at least half a brain and a desire to improve our country instead of seeing how they can milk the taxpayer for their own benefit.

Unfortunately there are very few politicians who don't get caught up in the corruption. As to the emailing, there are a few Americans here, maybe they agree. I do believe that no goverment should stand higher than its people, not even equal. Those politicians work for us.

I'm pretty sure the people who fear the government that gives out health insurance to poor children are actually just being cowardly.

Children have always had health insurance, where do you live?


http://www.insurekidsnow.gov/About%20Us/index.html

 

[taxslave]

Actually, to give the Devil his due, his English is a lot better than most young people's these days. :smile:

Probably because YJ has worked hard to speak the language while kids today try to emulate their favorite rap musician.

 

[Cliffy]

Probably because YJ has worked hard to speak the language while kids today try to emulate their favorite rap musician.

Yo, yu be dissin' rap, mofo?

 

[gopher]

''when the government fears the people it is liberty".

There is no evidence that Iraqis view USA bombing and continued occupation as 'liberty'.

 

[DaSleeper]

There is no evidence that Iraqis view USA bombing and continued occupation as 'liberty'.

Does this have anything to do with the price of bananas????

 

[gopher]

Does this have anything to do with the price of bananas????

If foreign occupation is desirable, then Eastern Europe should have welcomed the Nazis when they entered their borders.

 

[DaSleeper]

Iraq, Afghanistan, Europe and Hitler has nothing to do with the OP....seems like you're still obsessed with Bush after two years....hence...my question...what if anything, this has to do with the price of bananas:roll:;-)

 

[gopher]

LOL! The initial post talks about 'liberty returning'. This is precisely what the Eastern Europeans wanted back then and it is the same for Iraqis today.

Besides, the initial post quoted Jefferson who agreed with Washington that we must never engage in foreign entanglements and that standing armies were the biggest threats to liberty.

 

[damngrumpy]

When people are afraid of government it is most unhealthy. On the other hand it is alright
for people to be angry with government, as long as they know the facts and why they are
angry. To be angry, and make life changing decisions while angry is often the worst of all
medicine. When angry, people don't make the best choices and often vote against themselves
in the long run. The governments of the world are actually in trouble, some are to the left and
others very conservative but all are in trouble and the world economy hangs in the balance.
Such a scenario does not bring me comfort. If the bailouts had not occurred, the nations of the
world would even be in more trouble, as the world economy would have collapsed.
Even the wonderful Mr. Harper is now slowly siding with Obama, as the present financial
problems are beginning to manifest themselves. America is printing money, Europe is looking
for ways to bail out their weaker partners especially Ireland which is on the verge of collapse.
China is facing inflation about to go wild and will be tightening credit.
I think the real fear is misplaced here. If people make rash decisions in a spirit of partisanship
on either side, the people will soon be afraid of themselves, as the house of cards collapses
around them. What would we call that? Chaos, and unfortunately terms like right and left will
be meaningless, as we will all face financial ruin. The depression affected about 25% of the
population, this time if the system comes unglued it will affect 75% of us, I see no reason to
gloat on either side. I don't fear the government I fear the uniformed.

 

[DaSleeper]

LOL! The initial post talks about 'liberty returning'. This is precisely what the Eastern Europeans wanted back then and it is the same for Iraqis today.

Besides, the initial post quoted Jefferson who agreed with Washington that we must never engage in foreign entanglements and that standing armies were the biggest threats to liberty.

I know you like to turn every thread into your pet obsession...Bush and the Iraq war.....


Blame Bush

 

[ironsides]

Hmm and the Democrats wonder why the people are angry. They didn't do anything wrong. Yea right. :roll:



WASHINGTON – Judges who hear Social Security disability cases are facing a growing number of violent threats from claimants angry over being denied benefits or frustrated at lengthy delays in processing claims.
There were at least 80 threats to kill or harm administrative law judges or staff over the past year — an 18 percent increase over the previous reporting period, according to data collected by the agency.
The data was released to the Association of Administrative Law Judges and made available to The Associated Press.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101114/ap_on_go_ot/us_judges_threats

 

[Skatchie]

I think there is plenty of discussion about being informed on here. I guess that's all pretty debatable. Somebody said some garbage about how the world's economy would have been worse without the bailout. Really??? That's not how I remember it. They said it, sure, then they received trillions of dollars and did nothing with it but put it in their pockets. The answer to the economic problems is to simply tell the banks to F off and not pay them. They made this debt up. It's not real. If you never paid them, there wouldn't be a mysterious bank out there owing the money that is supposedly owed. They made it all up. It's all fake. Fiat money is not real. The answer is very simple. Get rid of the PRIVATE federal reserves around the world. Simple. Everything would be fine in one day if we all just told them to F off. It's not real debt anyways. These banks don't have money. It's not like they loaned us the debt. They hit a button on a computer screen. It's not real.

 

[Machjo]

Thomas Jefferson said: "When people fear the government, it is tyranny, when the government fears the people it is liberty".

Seems like under the Obama administration, in less than two years, Americans learned to fear the government so much that they are willing to die to defy it.

Wyoming Rep. Lummis: Estate tax rise has some planning death

The way the government trembles now, seeing the inevitable coming on November 2nd, there is hope that LIBERTY is returning.

I would have to disagree with Jefferson here. No it's not good when the people fear the government, though it is good, if they fear nothing else, to at least fear the law.

As for the government fearing the people, that is not good either. Again, for a government to fear the law is good, but for it to fear the people is bound to lead to mob rule as the government tries to be all things to all people only to end up bankrupting itself and so become nothing to all.

 

[Unforgiven]

I know you like to turn every thread into your pet obsession...Bush and the Iraq war.....


Blame Bush

Well it wasn't liberty that brought Bushco's war to Iraq and the people of Iraq don't have it now. Afghanistan is turning into the same damn thing in that we're going to forget about killing off Taliban and start negotiating with them as a way to get out of the quagmire it's becoming. Perhaps the people there were and are grossly underestimated is any capacity to understand and embrace the concept of freedom which in our shortsighted rush to exact revenge for the 9/11 attacks. Maybe what was needed was a simple bombing back to the stone age and the occasional return to level anything that might look like two boards nailed together.

Blame Bush because the state of Iraq is and always will be Bushco's fault. That was a war of aggression which would be condemned as it was then and is now. Perhaps more than anything, it stands as the poster child for what is wrong in part, with American foreign policy.

 

[gopher]

Yes, it was Bush who created the ''Patriot [sic] Act'' thereby further increasing the government. How smart of you to realize that!

 

[damngrumpy]

About the economy, and the billions that the companies kept, to a degree you are right but
had those companies failed they would have taken the entire international banking system
with them. They should have done a lot of things with the money, true, but to lose them
would have seen a crisis of confidence in the international corporate and political sector
and the fallout would have been much, much worse. The ones they saved did have the
biggest derivative, or leveraged debt load and that is because the outstanding balance of that
toxic debt if called in would cripple the world for more than a generation. It could still happen
and most people don't see it coming.
We are going to face some much worse times in the months ahead, Harper has not saved
us, a many think. Canada is better off that many, but when everyone is walking in quick sand
it doesn't count for much.

 

[Cliffy]

All the bail outs did was postpone the inevitable. The world economy is based on nothing, fiat currency is worthless. The stock market is based on speculation. The bubble has been long overdue to burst. We can't live on fiction forever.

 

[gopher]

''Blame Bush because the state of Iraq is and always will be Bushco's fault.''


Huh?? Didn't you know ~ you're supposed to say,


BLAME CLINTON!

BLAME DEMOCRATS!!

BLAME OBAMA!!!


After all. God said so. That is, according to the Republicans he/she did.

 

[Icarus27k]

Children have always had health insurance, where do you live?


About Us

I was, of course, referring to the Children's Health Insurance Reauthorization Act of 2009, which added millions of children in low income families to the CHIP program. Signed by President Obama, it is one of his greatest achievements.

 

[petros]

added millions of children in low income families to the CHIP program

?