What's Trump Done Now?

spilledthebeer

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Fcuk you Asshole! You are the idiot! I never suggested indicted anyone without evidence! Evidence was never part of the ruling, which states you can't indict a sitting president under ANY circumstance, you fcuking imbecile!




AS USUAL....................................


JOYLESS LIE-beral Monkey IGNORES.................................................


that which is INCONVENIENT FOR HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


OF COURSE a president CAN BE IMPEACHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All you have to do is CATCH HIM AT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thus far Tricky Dick Nixon has been the ONLY Yankee president caught out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And lets face it....................................


BURGLARY IS A CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Even if you are only planting bugs for eavesdropping on enemies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The problem that Joyless LIE-beral Monkeys have ...............


is that THEY ARE TRYING TO use a twisted and distorted version of law..............................................


WITH NO HARD FACTS...............................................


to back them up..................................



to legally LYNCH TRUMP..............................................


and make it LOOK like their bigotry .................................


WAS FOR THE NATIONAL GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




That is a TALL LEGAL ORDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NO WONDER LIE-berals are FAILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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Mueller claimed that he didn’t conclude guilt because the Justice Department Office of Legal Counsel's (OLC) guidelines say that a sitting president can’t be indicted, but that explanation doesn’t fly."


not at all what he said




Judging from some of the recent Mueller testimony........................................


EVEN HE aint sure what he said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Mueller testimony is a lot like hemerHOID commentary......................................


many people are sure it will lead some place eventually ...........................................


but ONLY A FEW DERANGED AND DEDICATED LIE-berals


CARE ANY MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Cliffy

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Serryah

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So when he was asked if an indictment would have been made if he wasn't POTUS and Mueller said no what does that mean?


Actually that's not true?


In his testimony, Muller was asked if Trump, sitting as President, could be charged in the indictment of obstruction, he said they couldn't make the calculation. HOWEVER...


When asked if the President could be charged with a crime AFTER he left office, Muller said "Yes".


Ergo, if Trump was NOT President, he would have been charged with obstruction.


As for anything else, again, OLC would have applied. Should it? That's something that needs to be decided, I think, by the people of the US since I don't think the Justice Department will make any changes to it. Personally if a President HAS done something unlawful, they should be charged, tried and if found guilty, convicted.
 

Twin_Moose

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Actually that's not true?
In his testimony, Muller was asked if Trump, sitting as President, could be charged in the indictment of obstruction, he said they couldn't make the calculation. HOWEVER...
When asked if the President could be charged with a crime AFTER he left office, Muller said "Yes".
Ergo, if Trump was NOT President, he would have been charged with obstruction.
As for anything else, again, OLC would have applied. Should it? That's something that needs to be decided, I think, by the people of the US since I don't think the Justice Department will make any changes to it. Personally if a President HAS done something unlawful, they should be charged, tried and if found guilty, convicted.

Of course he or any POTUS can be charged after leaving office if a crime existed, they could not determine a crime though

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ump-could-be-indicted-when-he-leaves-n1033901

In Mueller's opening statement that came later before the House Intelligence Committee, the former special counsel said he wanted to "correct the record" on his exchange with Lieu.
"That's not the correct way to say it," Mueller said. "We did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime."
That statement was more in line with his report, and with his earlier opening statement to the Judiciary Committee, where he said, "Based on Justice Department policy and principles of fairness, we decided we would not make a determination as to whether the President committed a crime. That was our decision then and it remains our decision today."
 

spilledthebeer

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You're a lunatic, find a good shrink!






Oh dear..........................


the Joyless LIE-beral Monkey is DISTRESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I have disturbed his harmony by pointing...............................................


out that a PRESIDENT CAN BE IMPEACHED................................................


IF THERE IS EVIDENCE of wrong doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Poor Joyless LIE-beral Monkey so desperately wants to attack..................................


all those who disagree with him....................................


that he has HALLUCINATED..........................................


and convinced himself there MUST BE EVIDENCE of Trump wrong doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But THAT IS A LIE-beral for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals consider themselves to be "virtuous" and thus anything they believe MUST AUTOMATICALLY BE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!


Thus there is NO NEED - in LIE-beral opinion...................................


to examine or even question their policies in any real way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!









LIE-beral hysteria over the ongoing exposure of Trudope family failings is reaching ridiculous proportions. LIE-berals will spend hours online denouncing any criticism of the Trudopes yet they will not spend one minute reading the Ottawa Citizen review of the Max Nemni biography of our infamous communist leader Pierre Trudope! It was published in The Citizen on May 31 2006 and is available in its entirety online. LIE-berals do not wish to read of the shock and horror exhibited by long time Trudope friends as his separatist sympathies, his anti Semitism and his fondness for Communist and Fascist dictators is exhibited for the world!

LIE-berals also shun quotes and articles from Trudeau`s magazine (he was the first editor) and a co-founder of Cite Libre- with its litany of infamous Communist sympathizers, often advocating violent overthrow of western democracy. LIE-berals do not wish to read of the glowing admiration Trudope expressed- in writing- for the most radical and violence prone revolutionary advocates! They do not wish to read if his thoughts about his fellow revolutionaries-met later during his time at the London School of Economics.

The London School of Economics is sponsored by The Fabian Society which was founded in the late 1800`s by a famous group including George Bernard Shaw and H.G. Wells-with the noble intention of alleviating the more harsh and dangerous working conditions in British factories. LIE-berals do not wish to read from documents such as The Huffinton Post and assorted British publications about how London School of Economics was infiltrated and dominated by Soviet sympathizers and Soviet Moles and turned into an institution dedicated to educating radicals-such as Our PET- regarding the best way to tear down our society!

LIE-berals scorn Toronto Sun newspaper as a right wing rag yet will not read The TYEE-a publication from British Columbia founded by a former Vancouver Sun editor who was fired from the Sun in the aftermath of the 9/11 terror attacks for “being too left wing”. And little wonder LIE-berals are not interested in anti Trudope comments even from such a strong self professed left winger-The Tyee also published a review of the Nemni book and called it “Pierre Trudeau`s FASCIST EDUCATION”-also found in full online!

LIE-berals have raised admiration for all things `Trudope` to CULT STATUS but they REFUSE to go to the local public library to read Pierre`s seminal book: ”Two Innocents in Red China”! And no wonder-the document is 200 hundred plus pages of SHAME in which Trudope heaps slavish and glowing praise on all things Chinese Communist. And in it, Trudope speaks of “the genius of Chairman Mao in rushing thirty million Chinese to the gallows” simply to consolidate his authority! The book is not even out of print so no need for a long search to find it-A NEW EDITION-with a fresh new introduction written by Sacha Trudope is available at the library FOR FREE.....OR ON AMAZON at modest cost-delivered to your door in a discreet package so your socialist pals will not know of your private doubts and secret shame!

In unguarded talks with Lubor Zink and other reporters-in the aftermath of his Two Innocents book being published- Trudope told Zink that one way to power would be to hijack an existing political party-likening it to a cruise ship in which passengers get on at port A and assume they are going to port B-but once out of sight of land Captain Trudope would make a series of minor course alterations that would steer the political ship to port C with passengers being UN-AWARE of the course changes -until they reached port C! Zink splashed these Trudope comments widely across every media forum he could access for THIRTY FIVE YEARS! And now current Sun newspaper chain owner and former Bloc Quebecois leader Pierre-Karl Peledeau is apparently doing his best to hide those documents that will so tarnish the reputation of Our Pet if brought fully into the light!.

LIE-berals scorn Nemni quotes and old news articles from both The Tyee and from Ottawa Citizen about Trudope time as member of the NDP! In the early 1960`s, he ran as an NDP candidate in a federal election that put Lester Peason into the prime ministerschair-though he was uncomfortable with NDP- the Nemnis quote from Trudope diaries noting that NDP was NOT socialist enough for Pierre! During that election, Trudope referred to LIE-berals PUBLICLY-as “spineless jellyfish”!

But Trudope was not elected and he recognized that his NDP pals would never form a federal govt-they were not socialist enough for him but were TOO socialist for ordinary Cdns and he needed an alternate vehicle to gain power. Within two years of his `spineless jellyfish` remarks, Our Pet was ELECTED LEADER of the jellyfish! And from there it was a quick hijack of LIE-beral party policy and a smooth jump into Trudope-mania and the office of prime minister!

LIE-berals KNOW all this-it is their secret shame and the reason Why they are so hysterical about any show of Trudope warts!

The Nemnis were asked during the interview with Ottawa Citizen why Our Pet would not destroy such damaging writings as those he freely gave to the Nemni biographers and they expressed puzzlement-a question with no answer-or at least no answer visible to a LIE-beral!

The Trudope documents are a last Salmon Arm Salute from the man who was true to his vile values to the end. He despised us `lesser beings` who too often refused his wisdom and his vision. The release of the documents is a last kick at the Spineless Jellyfish of the LIE-beral party that dumped him at the end when he wanted to run in one more election- and replaced him with Jean Chretien-the man who stole the last of the Trudope glory for himself and became prime minister in Trudope`s place!

The release of those Trudope documents is a Salmon Arm Salute from the grave! It is a war cry from a ghost: this is what I am and always was-and you gave me Trudo-mania-you SPINELESS JELLYFISH! And for those of you who-like Lubor Zink-knew what I was and despised me for it-here I am-exactly as you pictured me but could never prove because you are LESSER BEINGS! HAHAHAHA! CHUMPS!

LIE-berals really don’t want proof. If they did they would have read all the material available by now. What they WANT is just to silence opponents and to re-write our history to suit themselves!
 

spilledthebeer

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You're talking through your ass again, not unlike several others on here. (Did you find a good shrink yet?)




And how would you know anything about my manner of speaking???????????????????????


Since you are doing such a GREAT JOB......................................


of imitating Cliffy in that contortionist pose...............................................


in his nicely tiled bathroom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You certainly cannot SEE anything in that position!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And I doubt you can HEAR anything either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!









Here is an interesting article commenting on the future of free speech in Canada. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Universities are gutting our freedoms

First posted: Saturday, June 03, 2017 06:21 PM EDT | Updated: Saturday, June 03, 2017 06:23 PM EDT

While Conservative Party leader Andrew Scheer’s plan to withhold federal funding from universities that fail to protect free speech may be a blunt instrument, something needs to be done.

Many universities aren’t protecting free speech, freedom of association, or any other rights. They run for cover when student groups invite controversial speakers to campus, claiming they’re motivated by “security concerns”, given potential disruptions by students or organizations opposed to the speaker.

In other words, they tacitly endorse censorship by those intending to censor.

(Hard core socialist groups have LONG recognized that youth are susceptible to their propaganda! Socialists have decided it is easier to persuade inexperienced kids to think their way than it is to persuade wiser adults! In 1942 our very own Pet- Pierre Trudope despaired of forming a dock workers union in Montreal- with the intention of disrupting military supplies to Britain- the nation engaged in what Our Pet PUBLICLY SCORNED as “British Imperialism” hence the Trudope desire to mess up the flow of supplies! Happily, Cdn dock workers proved resistant to Trudope twisted propaganda and refused to play along! Our vile Pet simply assumed they had been too heavily indoctrinated to be able to understand what he was offering them! Stupid, arrogant and wrong- it is Classic Trudope!)

(And Winston Churchill had the best comment-saying: “a young man of conscience will be a socialist, but when he is older and wiser, he will be a capitalist”. Churchill also said: “capitalism and democracy look poorly till you compare them to any of the alternatives”! Socialists have therefore gravitated to colleges and universities to take FULL advantage of the captive audience of kids who lack the life experience to argue and who lack the academic power to scorn radical teachers as they deserve because exposing a socialist nitwit professor is a great way to FAIL the course!)

Or, they charge the cost of providing security to students, which effectively cancels the event.

As worrisome, faculty and staff in many universities, particularly in the social sciences, tend to be over-represented by those on the political left and intolerant of other views.

(Arts and social science groups are the most heavily oriented towards sucking up govt grants. The grads of social science courses are advocates in search of victims- and it does not matter whether the victims have a real complaint or not! Opposition to the existing political theology is the ONLY criteria for the socialist selection process!)

Which brings us to the bizarre story of Rebecca Katzman, 22, a graduating social work student at Ryerson University, reported by the Toronto Sun’s Sue-Ann Levy last week.

Katzman told Levy she was informed by her field placement co-ordinator in 2015 that she could not do a third-year internship with either one of two respected Jewish organizations — the Prosserman Jewish Community Centre or the United Jewish Appeal.

Why? Because of their alleged “strong anti-Palestinian lean” and opposition to the values of Ryerson’s School of Social Work, an opinion the co-ordinator apparently formed after discussing the issue with Jews who were part of “Jews Against Israeli Apartheid”.

(A dispassionate observer would suggest that “Jews Against Israeli Apartheid are in fact radicals and do not represent the main stream views of either Cdns or Israelis as they are hostile to the wall Israelis have built to separate themselves from Palestinian raiders seeking to murder Jews. The main stream thinking is that if there is no contact between Israeli and Palestinian then there can be no violence either! Less terror against Jews means less pressure in Israeli govt to compromise with Arabs for the sake of peace- and reduced options for what PLO leader Yasser Arafat referred to as a series of demands, compromises and peace treaties that will weaken Israel to the point it can be erased and the Jews driven into the sea.)

Oh, well then.

Katzman said the co-ordinator told her she might reconsider if she agreed to bring a “critical awareness” about Palestinian solidarity movements to these organizations.

(In other words- Katzman CAN work at a Jewish agency- IF she is prepared to pick fights with her new employers on behalf of Terrorists! This is mind control on a loathsome level!)

Simply put, how could any responsible official at a university think this was an appropriate way to handle a request for a field placement from a student?And what, specifically, is going on at Ryerson’s School of Social Work?

(IT is LIE-beral style social engineering of the sort mandated by Our vile Pet Pieere when he told us he wanted to destroy “Cdn Imperialism”! Give the Trudope clan enugh rope and they will hang all of us who do not swear fealty to a cabal of Soviet dictators and Arab terrorists! Our Pet has heaped fulsome praise on Chinese leader Mao for-as Our Pet said: ”his genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows”! Yes- 30 million political prisoners executed to satisfy the Commie lust for power! And Our idiot |Boy Justin has admitted “he likes the way the Chinese get things done”! There are No defenders of capitalism or democracy in the Trudope clan! And the vile Trudope policies are being spread across our campuses!)

While the co-ordinator later backtracked and apologized for providing “misinformed information” after Katzman complained internally, she disputes Ryerson’s claim it took, “quick, thorough, and responsive action”, including offering to place her with one of her preferred agencies.

(Sadly, hypocrite socialists scurry into repentance mode when firmly confronted- just like cockroaches suddenly exposed to the light!)

Katzman ended up doing her third-year placement working with autistic children and told Levy her experience, “really discouraged me from wanting to pursue a Jewish sort of placement (in my fourth year) because I didn’t want to go through that (same) emotional stress. My last two years were very rough.” Small wonder.

Particularly concerning are the words of Meryle Kates, executive director of StandWithUsCanada, a pro-Israel campus organization which supported Katzman and awarded her a fellowship.

“I’ve been hearing horror stories from students for 10 years,” she said. “Anti-Semitism in the school of social work is endemic ... but Ryerson is only one of so many campuses that have been overrun with this toxicity.”

It’s time our publicly-funded universities were disabused of the notion that this is acceptable behaviour.

(Such remedial action will be easier when their LIE-beral “enablers” are swept from office- we can only hope it happens before too much damage is done!)