What would YOU want to hear at church?
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Well, there is some pretty complicated stuff happening on the planet. Like fish swimming 5000 miles back to their point of origin to spawn. We all know a fish doesn't have the brain to do that. What they might have is "instinct", which is derived from a higher power.
The cup is not moving relative to the car, and I'm sitting in the car, not on the sidewalk. I live on planet earth, and the entire universe orbits where I live. All I have to to is look at the sky to see this happening.
That is not evidence for a non believer. You have shown nothing. I have personal evidence that you are wrong in your interpretations. Would you take MY word for that?
Correct, that's not evidence for a non believer. I've already pointed out that it's impossible for me to give you new life -- that's a work of God. You won't come to faith the same way you come to understand something in math class, that's what I've been saying. God transcends this material universe. With faith, there's something much greater than material things.
I, personally don't know. My best guess would be long lost civilizations that were as sophisticated or more so than we are today. I heard one theory (I'm not fully convinced of it) that tied the sinking of Atlantis to the Great Flood, but who knows? :smile:
No, they have asked for proof, and you spout what you take on faith as being proof. You quote the Bible as if it is conclusive proof. So, no, that is not what you have been saying.
well sure, there is some sort of higher power, but that has nothing to do with any god, not in my
world, I could never believe that.
the scientists will find the higher power, but unfortunately, I or my relatives who come after me, for
thousands of years won't know, it will take eons, I guess.
and, i'm never going to call the scientists god, and i'm sure they wouldn't
want me to.
and for those who believe there is a god, where did he come from, and when they believe he came from
'whatever', then where did that god come from.
sorry, not for me to buy into.
i have nothing left to say. i can only testify what i know. then i pray for God to do what only he can do.
No, it couldn't be 10,000 either, that's no better a conclusion than that it was 6000. And it doesn't matter that nobody was there to see it, we don't need eyewitnesses to know how old the earth is. You're out by a factor of many hundreds of thousands in either case. The generally accepted number is 4,550,000,000, plus or minus a few percent.
So 4,005,000,000 would be in the ball parky, check, one for God. Next, .......
the technical term is 'goddidit'. This crowd hasn't got the term 'salvation' down yet and their bark is all they have, squeaky as it is.
No, that's not in the ball park. That's not a few percent different, it's 12 percent different. And nowhere does god offer any of those numbers, it's just your screwball interpretation of scripture that came up with that. You knew that Young Earth Creationism is untenable and approximately what the real number is, you just torqued things to fit.
Maybe you and your whole family lose it to a super volcano type of incident, what good did all the planning do, my version has you being able to see it from the closest ridge using the viewpoint of a dandelion seed, the next day off observing something else, trees running away from a rising ocean perhaps.
Did I mention the wine? (rather than whine)
Show that the last 7 zeros aren't a 'rounding off'.
"God" is just a word like dog or cat. "Mother Nature" is suitable. All it means is there are events taking place that are not of man's planning. "Life" is just a "whistle stop" on a long journey.
Sin or addiction? Some people are addicted to lying, stealing, sex, drugs, all types of human stuff but calling it sin is like saying the devil made me do it - a complete cop out of personal responsibility. Freeing yourself from addiction (or sin if you prefer) is not a miracle. Many have done it without your god, Jesus or the holy ghost. You are reading miracles where there are none.
They have found incredibly huge stone works off the coast of Japan. If, during the last Ice Age, the ocean levels were 400 feet lower than now, it is possible that there were civilizations that got flooded when the oceans rose, thus the legend of Atlantis and Lemuria sinking and great floods in many surviving cultures. But those events, if caused by melting glaciers, would have taken place over a long period of time. Anyway, the point is that there was no divine intervention needed for these events.
If it harms others it is a sin, if it harms just you (regrets) then it is an addiction. Being a 'weekend heroin addict' means you have an addiction problem, ...... it also means you have a commitment problem.
Who says, perhaps the warming was very quick, say a layer of black ash high on the icecaps so the melt would have been partly by evaporation bust mostly by river runoff supplemented by my massive ice-dam breaks on land and in the ocean. The first 50ft rise could have brought 500 ft waves if you lived on the shoreline.
Irrelevant to the argument, you changed the 8th and 9th digits from the left. Evidently you don't remember the lesson from high school mathematics about significant figures. A variance of a few percent around a value of 4.55 billion means about 100 million, so 4.45 to 4.65 billion would be the range. Your figure is well outside of that.