What Is A Woman?

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Apparently, rightards think that women can get pregnant (many can't).

But here's a couple of things we do know about women, based on rightards hysteria about the words "man" and "woman," and their screeching meltdowns about pronouns. . .

1. Women are not equal, and have no God-given rights. "We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" --U.S. Declaration of Independence

2. Women cannot be President. "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows. . . " --U.S. Const., Art. II, sec. 1, cl. 1. You will note that nothing prevents a woman from being Vice President, so Kamala's OK.

It's fairly obvious. The words "woman" and "women" appear nowhere in the Constitution. They are granted various right, under the rubric of "person" or "the people" (assuming women qualify, better ask the rightards if that's OK).
plural noun: men
1.
an adult male human being.
"a tall man with a beard"
2. a human being of either sex; a person.
"goodwill to all men"
 

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The Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution, and the entire body of the English common law and systems descended from it would seem to disagree.


All of which required bloodshed to obtain, and steady monitoring to ensure they remain. Look how many countries don't have any of those rights.
 

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The Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution, and the entire body of the English common law and systems descended from it would seem to disagree.


All of which required bloodshed to obtain, and steady monitoring to ensure they remain. Look how many countries don't have any of those rights.

TB does have a point though.

Recent arguments in the Roe case that "the rights aren't in the Constitution" is the excuse to take away abortion rights.

Abortion is about a woman's right to choose for her own body her health care.

If a woman's choice of health care isn't a 'right' because it's not listed in the Constitution, then unless explicitly stated, no one has rights.
 
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The Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution, and the entire body of the English common law and systems descended from it would seem to disagree.


All of which required bloodshed to obtain, and steady monitoring to ensure they remain. Look how many countries don't have any of those rights.
Sigh. The philosophy is that the rights exist, and they can be abrogated by human action, but never extinguished. Hence, people "secure their rights" or "defend their rights" in the same way they would secure or defend their land. If someone invades your land, that doesn't mean suddenly it's not your land anymore. Just means you have to fight for it.
 
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petros

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More proof that what you THINK by the 'packaging' isn't always true.

Interesting story but also shows just how much can go wrong when developing.
Testors or LePage?

First hardon at 12? Gosh? Is that abnormal? To a lesbian maybe....
 

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Male and female are biological constructs. Man and woman are sociological ones.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Male and female are biological constructs. Man and woman are sociological ones.
Wrong. General, broad terms with multiple, context-dependent definitions mean EXACTLY what I say they mean and NOTHING ELSE. A man cannot get pregnant, and a woman was not endowed by her Creator with certain inalienable Rights.

Until I feel like whining about a different grievance.
 

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TB does have a point though.

Recent arguments in the Roe case that "the rights aren't in the Constitution" is the excuse to take away abortion rights.

Abortion is about a woman's right to choose for her own body her health care.

If a woman's choice of health care isn't a 'right' because it's not listed in the Constitution, then unless explicitly stated, no one has rights.
As I said the only rights we have are the ones we can defend. By saying they are not a right because they are not written in a book somewhere is irrelevant.Canada has no abortion laws, so does that mean it is not a right? Or are they only rights because some politician/ bureaucrap wrote it down? Or, perhaps more importantly, can some politician take that right away with the stroke of a pen? Is there a difference between a moral right and a legal one?
 

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Sigh. The philosophy is that the rights exist, and they can be abrogated by human action, but never extinguished. Hence, people "secure their rights" or "defend their rights" in the same way they would secure or defend their land. If someone invades your land, that doesn't mean suddenly it's not your land anymore. Just means you have to fight for it.
Except when the government does it. Do you have eminent domain in the US?
 

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As I said the only rights we have are the ones we can defend. By saying they are not a right because they are not written in a book somewhere is irrelevant.Canada has no abortion laws, so does that mean it is not a right? Or are they only rights because some politician/ bureaucrap wrote it down? Or, perhaps more importantly, can some politician take that right away with the stroke of a pen? Is there a difference between a moral right and a legal one?
Its not a Right, its only decriminalized.
 

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As I said the only rights we have are the ones we can defend. By saying they are not a right because they are not written in a book somewhere is irrelevant.Canada has no abortion laws, so does that mean it is not a right? Or are they only rights because some politician/ bureaucrap wrote it down? Or, perhaps more importantly, can some politician take that right away with the stroke of a pen? Is there a difference between a moral right and a legal one?
Until you can define the term, you're just engaged in another pointless game of semantic blind man's bluff.

I put up a thread a while back asking people to define exactly what "a right" means. It attracted very little interest.

So, y'know, enjoy the game.
 

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The catch to that one is who gets to set the limits? And how are they held accountable for setting limits that we don't like?
The government and the democratic process. Sometimes the courts.

I don't know if your mommy ever told you this, but you ain't gonna get everything you want in this life.