What if Texas Was an Independent Country?

Blackleaf

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They could join Mexico, save big money on the wall.

It used to be part of Mexico till the Americans stole it from them in the 1840s - so did California, Arizona, and New Mexico - just like they stole the 13 colonies from the British.

If the Americans gave back everything they stole there'd be virtually nothing less. Most of their country was stolen from other countries. Weird, but true.
 

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It used to be part of Mexico till the Americans stole it from them in the 1840s - so did California, Arizona, and New Mexico - just like they stole the 13 colonies from the British.

If the Americans gave back everything they stole there'd be virtually nothing less. Most of their country was stolen from other countries. Weird, but true.
You need a better history book.
 
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harrylee

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It used to be part of Mexico till the Americans stole it from them in the 1840s - so did California, Arizona, and New Mexico - just like they stole the 13 colonies from the British.

If the Americans gave back everything they stole there'd be virtually nothing less. Most of their country was stolen from other countries. Weird, but true.
Becoming independent is hardly stealing.
 

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It used to look like this too.....things change.

 
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Blackleaf

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Becoming independent is hardly stealing.

Yes, it is. It's stealing British land from Britain. There is no justification for those 13 colonies belonfing to the United States, regardless of what your romantic history books say.

So vast swathes of eastern America was stolen from the British.

Most of western and southern America was stolen off Mexico.

Even areas that weren't part of the 13 colonies were stolen, such as Florida. Florida was stolen from the British by the Spanish. That only became American because Americans started to settle in Florida in defiance of the Spanish governors and claimed it for America. Florida was basically invaded by the United States.

Ohio was also British, until we were told to hand it to the Americans in 1783.

Alabama was stolen from the British by the Spanish AND Americans, splitting it between them, until the Americans shat on the Spanish by stealing the Spanish part of Alabama.

Hawaii was an independent nation state with its own monarchy until the Americans simply arrives and took it.

The only parts of the United States which are legitimately part of the United States are Alaska and those areas which were part of the Louisiana Purchase, which the United States bought, and Washington State and Oregon, which the United States bought off Britain in 1846.

So the United States should only consist of this area...

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... and Washington State, Oregon and Alaska. The rest should be handed back to its rightful owners.
 
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Blackleaf

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It used to look like this too.....things change.


It changed because the Americans stole it.

How would you like it if they took huge swathes of Canada the way they did Mexico? I rather suspect you'd be demanding America gave them back.
 
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harrylee

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Yes, it is. It's stealing British land from Britain. There is no justification for those 13 colonies belonfing to the United States, regardless of what your romantic history books say.

So vast swathes of eastern America was stolen from the British."

You mean, like how the British, France, Spain etc stole it from the natives?
Conquering of lands has been going on for thousands of years.
 

Blackleaf

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Yes, it is. It's stealing British land from Britain. There is no justification for those 13 colonies belonfing to the United States, regardless of what your romantic history books say.

So vast swathes of eastern America was stolen from the British."

You mean, like how the British, France, Spain etc stole it from the natives?
Conquering of lands has been going on for thousands of years.

What if America took over vast swathes of Canada? Would you not be bothered or would you demand that America hand it back and that it should only be other countries' lands they should take but not Canadian land?

It's one of the two.
 
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Danbones

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What if America took over vast swathes of Canada? Would you not be bothered or would you demand that America hand it back and that it should only be other countries' lands they should take but not Canadian land?

It's one of the two.
Thank whoever I grew up in a place that was mostly of Huguenot Irish descent with Brits on one side and French on the other.
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All mixed with natives to a large extent of course.
 
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