What I would like to see in Canada

[55Mercury]

I want to see the First Nations take over the immigration portfolio (which no one can label 'racist') and hopefully they'd have the good sense to immigrate people here at a sane pace, if not eliminate it entirely. One thing's for certain, they couldn't bungle it any more than our past and present elected governments have.

They don't have any power; this isn't their land.

if it's not theirs then it certainly isn't yours.

 

[gerryh]

They don't have any power; this isn't their land.

Yes, it is their land, we signed treaties and made agreements to buy that land. Same as a fu ckin mortgage numbnuts. Try reneging on your mortgage and see what the banks do and if you get to stay living in that house that you are no longer paying for.



Some people just don't have the brains to fart.

 

[gordongekko]

I want to see the First Nations take over the immigration portfolio (which no one can label 'racist') and hopefully they'd have the good sense to immigrate people here at a sane pace, if not eliminate it entirely. One thing's for certain, they couldn't bungle it any more than our past and present elected governments have.

if it's not theirs then it certainly isn't yours.

I want the First Nations seen no different than any other citizen; liberals and socialists want to discriminate against them and let them take advantage of Canadians. I don't care what they do as long as they follow exactly the same rules and have exactly the same treatment.

 

[Kakato]

I see an agenda here,sad that some have so much hate inside them.

White man came across the sea
He brought us pain and misery
He killed our tribes, he killed our creed
He took our game for his own need

We fought him hard, we fought him well
Out on the plains, you sing it
But many came, too much for Cree
Oh will we ever be set free

Riding through dust clouds and barren wastes
Galloping hard on the plains
Chasing the redskins back to their holes
Fighting them at their own game

Murder for freedom the stab in the back
Woman and children and cowards attack

Run to the hills, run for your lives
Run to the hills, run for your lives

Soldier blue in the barren wastes
Hunting and killing their game
Raping the woman and wasting the man
The only good Indians are tame

Selling them whiskey and taking their gold
Enslaving the young and destroying the old

Run to the hills, run for your lives
Run to the hills, run for your lives

 

[gordongekko]

Yes, it is their land, we signed treaties and made agreements to buy that land. Same as a fu ckin mortgage numbnuts. Try reneging on your mortgage and see what the banks do and if you get to stay living in that house that you are no longer paying for.



Some people just don't have the brains to fart.

I believe that the government has a duty to protect its citizens liberties, and I think the First Nations are taking them away from the taxpayers. The government can cancel those treaties just like Ronald Reagan fired 10,000 air controllers to bust the union. I believe in reasonable force to encourage efficiency and the liberty of the people.

 

[lone wolf]

How would you feel if we in Canada...

- Ended all aboriginal government departments and cancelled all treaties, and use the military to deal with the riots Reagan style
- Ended all permanent welfare for those capable of working (only the severely disabled or mentally handicapped would receive it)
- Temporary unemployment less than 6 months, with tight regulations to limit waste
- Cut back sharply on the government work force, which is highly inefficient -- allow the private sector to compete
- Eradicate public health care and introduce a private hospital system, which would lower costs. Citizens could buy health insurance, and others who couldn't get health insurance could take out a loan from the government to pay down their operation over many years
- Set the corporate tax rate at 0%, which would highly encourage business and it would explode GDP growth, reduce unemployment, lower costs, etc.
- Cut income taxes across the board, and set a flat tax rate of 10%
- Set capital gains tax at 0% for all transactions
- 50% cuts to social services
- End public education and introduce voucher system, where students would attend private school -- but if they couldn't afford it, government would subsidize them.
- Encourage lots of immigration of highly educated foreigners, and discourage international students coming here for their education so they can head back to their own countries.
- Increase military spending 200%

The budget would be balanced, we wouldn't have the need for excessive tax rates because the millions leeching would have to search for employment, and we wouldn't have ineffective and costly health care. The school system would also improve dramatically with competition.

What do you think of my proposal? I know it will antagonize a lot of socialists on here, but I think that this would truly turn Canada into a superpower -- the next United States.

I think it's great! Set up an office ten miles due south of Toronto and we'll do lunch

 

[gerryh]

I believe that the government has a duty to protect its citizens liberties, and I think the First Nations are taking them away from the taxpayers. The government can cancel those treaties just like Ronald Reagan fired 10,000 air controllers to bust the union. I believe in reasonable force to encourage efficiency and the liberty of the people.

No, the government can NOT arbitrarily cancel those treaties and agreements. Obviously, with your way of thinking, you aren't worth the shyte on the soles of my shoes. A useless piece of trash that would not live up to contracts and obligations.

 

[gordongekko]

Also I don't want anyone to think I am racist toward First Nations. I want them treated completely equally under the law to every other citizen, and I want them to be given the same opportunity. That's not happening now, maybe their people could advance if the government stopped encouraging their apathy. I am also generalizing, there are many hardworking and successful Aboriginals.

By the way, that was a tiny portion of my argument. What do you think of the rest of it?

 

[Cliffy]

Brand new to the forums and he jumps right in with both feet in his mouth. Sounds like a white supremest dickhead to me.

 

[gerryh]

Also I don't want anyone to think I am racist toward First Nations. I want them treated completely equally under the law to every other citizen, and I want them to be given the same opportunity. That's not happening now, maybe their people could advance if the government stopped encouraging their apathy. I am also generalizing, there are many hardworking and successful Aboriginals.

By the way, that was a tiny portion of my argument. What do you think of the rest of it?

You are bigoted towards First Nations. There is no argument there.

 

[Spade]

Besides a coelacanth in an aquarium, I would like to see a aardwolf in the wild.

 

[Machjo]

Yes, it is their land, we signed treaties and made agreements to buy that land. Same as a fu ckin mortgage numbnuts. Try reneging on your mortgage and see what the banks do and if you get to stay living in that house that you are no longer paying for.



Some people just don't have the brains to fart.

Bad example. The bank actually has power. A more apt example might be signing a contract with a mafioso and then he decides to renege on the contract. If you take him to court, you could win, but might still end up dead the next day. The government does have POWER over the First Nations no doubt, and if it ever did decide to ignore the treaties (which it essentially has in many cases already) the First Nations are left with little recourse. What the OP is proposing is a little muscle flexing, might makes right and to hell with agreements entered in good Faith. We have the power so let's trample over such agreements.

Could the government do so? Absolutely, as long as it can sleep at night with that on its conscience, but it would seem some people can sleep with a heck of a lot on their conscience and not bat an eyelid.

Also I don't want anyone to think I am racist toward First Nations. I want them treated completely equally under the law to every other citizen, and I want them to be given the same opportunity. That's not happening now, maybe their people could advance if the government stopped encouraging their apathy. I am also generalizing, there are many hardworking and successful Aboriginals.

By the way, that was a tiny portion of my argument. What do you think of the rest of it?

The issue is though that the Treaties are international treaties. Should Americans or Frenchmen in Canada be treated like any other citizen? They have special rights as nations as per international trieties.

 

[Cliffy]

Besides a coelacanth in an aquarium, I would like to see a aardwolf in the wild.

In Canada? I would like to see a wooly mammoth stopping down the main street of Edmonton. That would be more natural, unlike our neanderthal friend here who gives neanderthals a bad name.

 

[Machjo]

Also I don't want anyone to think I am racist toward First Nations. I want them treated completely equally under the law to every other citizen, and I want them to be given the same opportunity. That's not happening now, maybe their people could advance if the government stopped encouraging their apathy. I am also generalizing, there are many hardworking and successful Aboriginals.

By the way, that was a tiny portion of my argument. What do you think of the rest of it?

Maybe they'd advance if we resepcted their treaties in good Faith or alternatviely just gave their land back.

 

[Spade]

In Canada? I would like to see a wooly mammoth stopping down the main street of Edmonton. That would be more natural, unlike our neanderthal friend here who gives neanderthals a bad name.

If Neanderthals were still alive, their tax dollars would be wasted on supporting our friend.

 

[gerryh]

As I have said before when the braindead morons like gordonekko start throwing their bigoted rants around, you want to cancel the treaties, fine. Renegotiate a lump sum settlement. Pay the First Nations outright for the land and resources that they have given up.

 

[taxslave]

They don't have any power; this isn't their land.

Yer right. They were just squatting here for several thousand years waiting for us to come and claim our country.
I SMELL A TROLL.

 

[The Old Medic]

This kind of CRA{P would destroy Canada.

Get the "Superpower" concept out of your mind. That is your Scizophrenia speaking. Canada is a non-entity on the world stage, it's economy is tiny, it is vastly underpopulated (and without immigration, that population would be rapidly shrinking), and there is no possible way that it could ever become a "superpower"

As to the natives, it was, and is their land. Canada has already been cited by the United Nations, REPEATEDLY because of its crappy treatment of its Native peoples.

I hate to tell you, but MIGHT does not make RIGHT!

Oh yes, I forgot to mention, if all Treaties WERE cancelled, then the Native would hold title to all of Canada.

Is that REALLY what you want?

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

A poutine stand on every corner?! Are you trying to get us all killed?

I like my heart just the way it is, thanks!

Certainly not a good idea when you have just eliminated the health care system.

 

[Mowich]

The First Nations would riot for sure, you don't think so?

Uh, .........................that would be a BIG NO!

You're right, I would like to see Canada further right than the US. The US is being taken over by the socialist hordes just like Canada and the rest of the world.

Sheesh! Well at least you have chosen a moniker that suits your beliefs. :smile: