What Are the Consequences of Obama Failing?

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But if Rush has been selected their leader, I still maintain that it would have been a big news story and a big blog/forum story. So I'm still waiting with bated breath for you to provide the link.

Extrafire, if you read my posts I have said that Limbaugh is the de facto leader of the Republican Party, not the nominal leader, a figurehead leader (that honour goes to Steele). De facto leader means nobody had to elect him to the post; he is the leader because the far right Republican base accepts him as such, by acclamation.

Actually the devestated economy was due to a number of factors, the main one being the government interference into the financial industry of the US, primarily by Clinton. Bush just had the misfortune to be in the oval office when all those chickens came home to roost. But you know this, you've been informed several times so let's not beat that horse to death again.

I already knew that, Extrafire, according to you, Bush is blameless. Unfortunately for you, most Americans don’t see that way. Bush didn’t leave office with approval in low 30s (or was it high 20s?) for nothing.

You know well what constitutes success and why the Republicans want Obama to fail. You've been told several times, yet you completely ignore it and come up with this drivell.

Now, didn’t you yourself said that if Obama succeeds that means we will have a depression (and if Obama fails, we won’t have a depression)? I am taking you at your word.

The Republicans are also aware of that. They're also aware that they can't stop him from proceeding. Duh! That's why they're hoping he fails because his policies, if successful, will devestate the US economy, and they don't want the economy devestated.

That is you in post # 117.
 
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I'm sorry SJP but are you have issues with my name ?

Sorry about the name, Extrafire, it is the word processor again. I will try to be more careful.

Well SJP, all Democrats have done bad bad things and all Republicans have done nothing but good. It was always the Democrats faults when the Republicans were in Power, either by past legislation or Congress / Senate control.

Anyway, so here we are finally in agreement (that you feel that way).
 
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ironsides said:
We forgot to mention Colin Powell, seems he is trying to get back in the good graces of the Republican party. Challenging Rush Limbaugh. I still cannot believe that anyone could consider Rush Limbaugh as leader of the party.
Wonder why the Democrats think he is the leader unless by keeping him at the forefront the party will remain off balance.
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Ironsides, Collin Powell is a prime example of how far to the right Republican Party has moved. At one time, he was the darling of the Republican Party. After he successfully lead the Kuwait operation, he was very popular, I think the Republican nomination was his for the taking in year 2000.

Now he is considered a moderate and is being thrown out of the party, for having the audacity of challenging the de facto leader, Rush Limbaugh. I think what is going on is a purge of the Republican Party, whereby all the moderates are being purged, leaving only the extremists, only the pure right wingers, the pure hate mongers.

Indeed, if Reagan or Goldwater had been alive today, they would have been thrown out of the party for being RINOs (Republicans in name only).

I think Powell should take Limbaugh’s advice and join the Democrats. There is no home for him in the Republican Party, it is almost exclusively composed of the religious right these days. More and more it is becoming a mouthpiece for Fundamentalist Christianity.
 
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SirJosephPorter said:
I'm sorry SJP but are you have issues with my name ?

Sorry about the name, Extrafire, it is the word processor again. I will try to be more careful.

Well SJP, all Democrats have done bad bad things and all Republicans have done nothing but good. It was always the Democrats faults when the Republicans were in Power, either by past legislation or Congress / Senate control.

Anyway, so here we are finally in agreement (that you feel that way).
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Extrafire.. Arggggg
 
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Extrafire, please forgive me for jumping in the middle of your quarrel with SirJosephPorter.

First, let me congratulate you on your patience. Job of the Bible had nothing on you. After all, the suffering Job had to deal with was nothing. He never had to "debate" with SirJosephPorter.

Second, courage. You will never win against self-imposed ignorance. Anyone, who - like SirJosephPorter - refuses to acknowledge an opposing point of view strictly on ideological reasons is the ultimate personification of ignorance. So, just hang in there!!

Third, you can not unmake an omelette, or unconstitute concrete. Those are all mixed up and permanently set, just like the all-knowing brain of SirJosephPorter.

Fourth, no matter what you say, SirJosephPorter will repeat whatever he'd said in any or all of his previous posts. You can no more change his "mind" than you could change the flow of the Red River to go South.

For what it's worth, my prayers are with you.
 
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YukonJack

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"Which extrafire are we talking about, the one spelled as above or the one spelled f-r-a-n-c-i-s-2-0-0-4?"

Cannuck, in my most generous mood I could not give a fig about f-r-a-n-c-i-s-2-0-0-4.

I am referring to the poster who had the infinite patience to deal with a personification of obtuseness, SirJosephPorter.

Posts # 124, 125, 126, 128, 137 and 138.

Should be fairly obvious.
 
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YukonJack said:
Extrafire, please forgive me for jumping in the middle of your quarrel with SirJosephPorter.

First, let me congratulate you on your patience. Job of the Bible had nothing on you. After all, the suffering Job had to deal with was nothing. He never had to "debate" with SirJosephPorter.

Second, courage. You will never win against self-imposed ignorance. Anyone, who - like SirJosephPorter - refuses to acknowledge an opposing point of view strictly on ideological reasons is the ultimate personification of ignorance. So, just hang in there!!

Third, you can not unmake an omelette, or unconstitute concrete. Those are all mixed up and permanently set, just like the all-knowing brain of SirJosephPorter.

Fourth, no matter what you say, SirJosephPorter will repeat whatever he'd said in any or all of his previous posts. You can no more change his "mind" than you could change the flow of the Red River to go South.

For what it's worth, my prayers are with you.
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Is there any point to this rant, Yukon? And quarrel? I hope we are having a good natured argument, discussion, nothing more.
 
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Republican, Democrat - who cares? The same money finances both parties. Obama is just as much a puppet of the ruling class as Dubbya was. New face, same crap. Bush set up the economy to crash so Obama could set it up as a more socialist style system. No matter, because the ruling class is going to make a killing one way or the other, all at your expense. Arguing ideology is a nice way to hide your head in the sand while the ruling class screws you from behind. Arguing politics is a complete waste of time and a diversion from facing reality.
 
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Cliffy said:
Republican, Democrat - who cares? The same money finances both parties. Obama is just as much a puppet of the ruling class as Dubbya was. New face, same crap. Bush set up the economy to crash so Obama could set it up as a more socialist style system. No matter, because the ruling class is going to make a killing one way or the other, all at your expense. Arguing ideology is a nice way to hide your head in the sand while the ruling class screws you from behind. Arguing politics is a complete waste of time and a diversion from facing reality.
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That's what I say- they are both good parties in that you can jump to one or the other to get relief from one or the other. Just a different flavour of corruption. :lol::lol:
 
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"Is there any point to this rant, Yukon? And quarrel? I hope we are having a good natured argument, discussion, nothing more."

Sorry, SirJosephPorter, since you are totally incapable of aquiescing any point to anyone, since you can not possibly acknowledge that there may be people whose opinons are worth considering, since you would never admit that you may ever be wrong, sorry, anything you put up on these posts are nothing but QUARREL.

I post twelve lines, including spaces. According to you, that is a rant.

Your posts are hardly ever shorter than that. NOT A RANT??

Good natured? You put a more than generous dose of poison in everything you post.
 
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YukonJack said:
"Is there any point to this rant, Yukon? And quarrel? I hope we are having a good natured argument, discussion, nothing more."

Sorry, SirJosephPorter, since you are totally incapable of aquiescing any point to anyone, since you can not possibly acknowledge that there may be people whose opinons are worth considering, since you would never admit that you may ever be wrong, sorry, anything you put up on these posts are nothing but QUARREL.

I post twelve lines, including spaces. According to you, that is a rant.

Your posts are hardly ever shorter than that. NOT A RANT??

Good natured? You put a more than generous dose of poison in everything you post.
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Cliff says politics can be great entertainment and I agree Y.J. and Sir Joe WHEN either of the two arguers know what they are talking about.
 
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I post twelve lines, including spaces. According to you, that is a rant.

Your posts are hardly ever shorter than that. NOT A RANT??

Yukon Jack, whether a post is a rant or not does not depend upon the length. One can talk absolute drivel in just one line. On the other hand, one may post 20 lines long post, which would still make perfect sense.

So don’t confuse the two.

Good natured? You put a more than generous dose of poison in everything you post.

Well now, that is a matter of opinion, isn’t it?
 
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"One can talk absolute drivel in just one line."

As you usually do.

"On the other hand, one may post 20 lines long post, which would still make perfect sense"

Your usual verbal diarrhea.
 
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