What are the chances Alberta will get a new pipeline?

taxslave

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The City of Burnaby has to issue permits for the Trans Mountain expansion to proceed.

Your belief that the Federal government through the NEB can simply wave a magic wand and make it happen is cute. If that was the case the thing would have been built under Harper.

BTW Kinder Morgan beginning construction while waiting for approval will have the same result as the Site C dam project - which did the same thing.

The right wig nutjobs are out of office in BC. NO more free rides boys.

You got part of it right. Burnaby HAS to issue permits. They have zero choice. Otherwise the court will grant the permits.
 

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The real question is how can the federal government comply with its Paris Accord promises and allow this pipeline?
 

taxslave

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Who cares about the Paris accord? Although it actually makes perfect sense because pipelines are much more environmentally friendly than rail.
 

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Fukk the pipeline. Why should we have our province and coast line become an ecological disaster so whiny Alberians can have more snowmobiles and jacked up PEV p/u trucks?

PEV: penile enhancement vehicle.

Who cares about the Paris accord? Although it actually makes perfect sense because pipelines are much more environmentally friendly than rail.
No pipelines or rails would be more environmentally friendly. Why isn't this money being spent on sustainable energy? Because multi-billion dollar corporations won't give up their cash cow until it is dry. Fukk them and all you asshats that support these scumbags.
 

JamesBondo

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Fukk the pipeline. Why should we have our province and coast line become an ecological disaster so whiny Alberians can have more snowmobiles and jacked up PEV p/u trucks?

PEV: penile enhancement vehicle.


No pipelines or rails would be more environmentally friendly. Why isn't this money being spent on sustainable energy? Because multi-billion dollar corporations won't give up their cash cow until it is dry. Fukk them and all you asshats that support these scumbags.
.This whole issue is not an oil vs the envirement, silly

Brazilian tankers supply the Irving oil refineries on the east coast The Irving family likes it this way, but the average consumer would rather buy from Alberta. Why?

Because there is an issue of 'energy security', if there is ever a serious world oil crisis, the Irvings would have to compete for the same tankers as the rest of the world

The tankers were late in Aug 2015, so don't say it wont ever happen.
 

mentalfloss

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Well without the revenue from the extraction of oil and gas Alberta won't be providing equalization to any province.


Unless they, you know, stop being a dumb province and learn how to get good at other industries.

Get off your lazy asses, Albertans, and learn to compete.

Liek geeeez...

No pipelines or rails would be more environmentally friendly. Why isn't this money being spent on sustainable energy? Because multi-billion dollar corporations won't give up their cash cow until it is dry. Fukk them and all you asshats that support these scumbags.

Yea, you would think all the populists in here would absolutely loathe the elite.

Apparently not if you work in oil, tsk tsk tsk.
 

Danbones

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Gee, what we need is a nice war in the middle east to drive the price up...
;)
Oh look: On top of Yemen, and after the US has been booted from Syria, the proxy Sauds are trying
( with Israel), to start up with Lebanon...

Guess they couldn't get their pipeline through Syria, so now its time for plan "B".
Again.
 

mentalfloss

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Yeah, Oil is dying like my healthy 16 year old grand daughter is dying and may well have a longer life expectancy! What a stupid statement! :)

Probably not a good idea to introduce jail bait on this forum.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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.This whole issue is not an oil vs the envirement, silly

Brazilian tankers supply the Irving oil refineries on the east coast The Irving family likes it this way, but the average consumer would rather buy from Alberta. Why?

Because there is an issue of 'energy security', if there is ever a serious world oil crisis, the Irvings would have to compete for the same tankers as the rest of the world

The tankers were late in Aug 2015, so don't say it wont ever happen.

It doesn't matter if the oil or threat of spill is coming from other countries or along the coastlines. The NIMBY crowd wants their oil, they just don't want it coming out of Canada.
And before you roll your eyes.
I know; they're that silly.
 

JamesBondo

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It doesn't matter if the oil or threat of spill is coming from other countries or along the coastlines. The NIMBY crowd wants their oil, they just don't want it coming out of Canada.
And before you roll your eyes.
I know; they're that silly.

Unfortunately, you are correct. Ottawa lacks the insight to follow up with a transcanada energy corridor to compliment their transcanada railway, and highway.

Instead they give us a transcanada hiking trail. Don't get me wrong, I love the hiking trail but it doesn't create an infrastructure where Canadian's can help Canadians.

If the tankers stop comin or are delayed, we become an oil rich country that never invested in itself. In 2015, this happened. Gas stations across n9va Scotia were sold out of gasoline. City transit was not a solution, they could not handle the commuter demand on the 4th day of shortages. A longer term shortage would be a disaster for working Canadians.
 
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Hoid

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its amazing how patriotic Albertans get when they start talking about pipelines. Suddenly they are all about Canada.
 

JamesBondo

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its amazing how patriotic Albertans get when they start talking about pipelines. Suddenly they are all about Canada.

I'm in Nova Scotia dumb ass. I am patriotic, but even if I wasn't, I would still be concerned about heating my home and getting to work.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Unfortunately, you are correct. Ottawa lacks the insight to follow up with a transcanada energy corridor to compliment their transcanada railway, and highway.

Instead they give us a transcanada hiking trail. Don't get me wrong, I love the hiking trail but it doesn't create an infrastructure where Canadian's can help Canadians.

If the tankers stop comin or are delayed, we become an oil rich country that never invested in itself. In 2015, this happened. Gas stations across n9va Scotia were sold out of gasoline. City transit was not a solution, they could not handle the commuter demand on the 4th day of shortages. A longer term shortage would be a disaster for working Canadians.
Wait. . . "transcanada?" Is that like "I was born in Ohio, but I always felt more comfortable in a plaid shirt and a toque, getting drunk on cheap beer and yelling at hockey games on television, so now I identify as transCanada. I'm saving up for the surgery?"