What are the chances Alberta will get a new pipeline?

Twin_Moose

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The Assiniboine runs through my property. Both Feds and Province are always poking around monitoring various fluvial activities.

Yep because it is fish bearing as well as a creek that connects to it, but the slough 200' away does not fall under Fed. protection unless yearly flood waters connect the 2.
 

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That is always taken into consideration and planned on the subject at hand here is do we want to stay handcuffed to the Brent pricing that takes our oil at a discount to sell it for a profit. Or should we expand our market world wide to get all the profit from our oil leading to larger royalties to help social infrastructure. It doesn't help when people think that our oil industry is a nothing burger and the world shaming us, brainwashing us, into thinking it is dirty. In our own country when we have the 3rd largest reserve in the world and ethically responsible as we can be, we should be embracing our industry and expand all avenues to take advantage of this wealth from manufacturing to world sales.

Same argument could be made about Uranium in Sask. why aren't we taking advantage of the resource in our back yard.

You said it "handcuffed" we can't just displace some other producers without making them very angry. The logical market is China but then we incure the wrath of senior market interests which I think would result in shackles as well and probably a good beating.
 

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You said it "handcuffed" we can't just displace some other producers without making them very angry. The logical market is China but then we incure the wrath of senior market interests which I think would result in shackles as well and probably a good beating.

Our Oil is land locked and handcuffed to U.S. marketers, even Trans mountain 1 loads tankers heading South not West. In my opinion 75% of the money financing protestors of the off shore terminals in Canada are from U.S. Oil marketers leaving the other 25% from actual environmental concern groups. It's even been proven(provide your own links it is well documented) that our own David Suzuki was financed by competing oil companies to fight against Canadian oil.

It benefits all producers in Canada especially the Canadian producers if any foreign producer protests against our resources fack 'em they are only looking to better themselves at our expense.
 

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Interprovincial waterway? Again likely.



Hemerhoid lives in Whitby ON.
Oh he has been talking recently like B.C. was his home . Being all over the map like he is it is hard to keep track .Whitby Ontario home of the worst mosquito's ever seen , yikes sad for him .
 

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Feds have complete authority over the ports, interprovincial highways, waterways, airports railways, etc.

Like I said, Burnaby can mince around like little pansies all they want, the decision isn't up to them



That's happening already... has been for years

The City of Burnaby has to issue permits for the Trans Mountain expansion to proceed.

Your belief that the Federal government through the NEB can simply wave a magic wand and make it happen is cute. If that was the case the thing would have been built under Harper.

BTW Kinder Morgan beginning construction while waiting for approval will have the same result as the Site C dam project - which did the same thing.

The right wig nutjobs are out of office in BC. NO more free rides boys.
 

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The City of Burnaby has to issue permits for the Trans Mountain expansion to proceed.

Your belief that the Federal government through the NEB can simply wave a magic wand and make it happen is cute. If that was the case the thing would have been built under Harper.

BTW Kinder Morgan beginning construction while waiting for approval will have the same result as the Site C dam project - which did the same thing.

The right wig nutjobs are out of office in BC. NO more free rides boys.
Well the B.C. Liberals , are right wing nut jobs who actually have the most seats in the provincial legislature . The people of B.C. did not support the NDP , the Green party took enough Liberal votes to allow NDP to win many ridings , and Green voters are generally piss-d at the turn of leadership . You will not see the NDP win another provincial election in B.C. for quite some time . IMHO .
 

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What we're starting to see is that if you truly want a pipeline, Jason Kenney is not your guy.

When the leader of your party thinks pushing a Quebec referendum is a good strategy, it's clear that Albertans are getting the wool pulled over their eyes (another terrible expression to add to TB's thread).

Jason Kenney Is Trying To Sell Alberta On A Sunset Industry


Enter the Neo-Notleys.
 

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What we're starting to see is that if you truly want a pipeline, Jason Kenney is not your guy.

When the leader of your party thinks pushing a Quebec referendum is a good strategy, it's clear that Albertans are getting the wool pulled over their eyes (another terrible expression to add to TB's thread).

Jason Kenney Is Trying To Sell Alberta On A Sunset Industry


Enter the Neo-Notleys.
Well without the revenue from the extraction of oil and gas Alberta won't be providing equalization to any province .
 

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The City of Burnaby has to issue permits for the Trans Mountain expansion to proceed.

Your belief that the Federal government through the NEB can simply wave a magic wand and make it happen is cute. If that was the case the thing would have been built under Harper.

BTW Kinder Morgan beginning construction while waiting for approval will have the same result as the Site C dam project - which did the same thing.

The right wig nutjobs are out of office in BC. NO more free rides boys.

That's why it follows a preapproved pre-existing energy corridor.

These are the only permits Burnaby won't approve:

Some of the work described in Burnaby includes the demolition of one oil storage tank and the construction of 14 new ones. The work requires the removal of trees, creation of berms, excavations and other activities for which the City of Burnaby requires permits.
 
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Well without the revenue from the extraction of oil and gas Alberta won't be providing equalization to any province .
I thought you didn't want to make equalization payments to other provinces.

That's why it follows a preapproved pre-existing energy corridor.

These are the only permits Burnaby won't approve:

Some of the work described in Burnaby includes the demolition of one oil storage tank and the construction of 14 new ones. The work requires the removal of trees, creation of berms, excavations and other activities for which the City of Burnaby requires permits.

Not even close to being the case. It crosses at least 7 salmon bearing watercourses therefore approval of that work is up to more than the feds and more than BC - it involves the First Nations.
 

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Fishing is a major concern here in BC. They are these sea creatures that live in the ocean and breed in the rivers.
 

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I thought you didn't want to make equalization payments to other provinces.



Not even close to being the case. It crosses at least 7 salmon bearing watercourses therefore approval of that work is up to more than the feds and more than BC - it involves the First Nations.
Living in B.C.I am not as concerned with Alertan issues however I don't fundamentally agree with the concept of equalization .

Fishing is a major concern here in BC. They are these sea creatures that live in the ocean and breed in the rivers.
Really !

I thought you didn't want to make equalization payments to other provinces.



Not even close to being the case. It crosses at least 7 salmon bearing watercourses therefore approval of that work is up to more than the feds and more than BC - it involves the First Nations.
How many first nations live in the Coquahala watershed ? Why is pipeline work going on there ?
 

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The Troglodytes need their oil fix. Quick! Load up some 1000 cc needles and shoot them up before they start withdrawals and do something destructive.