WE really need to get rid of this guy
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So...putting words in my mouth.
Agree with yourself. Neither you nor I stated anything about Republicans in the post I quoted. You specifically asked, "Is that the historical Dems or current incarnation?"
So you're saying the party that was pro-slavery was actually far-right? I mean it's entirely plausible since the Democrats have held onto the same basic tenets of racism (as the "historical" Democrats) since they laughingly signed the Civil Rights Act. A move with no real purpose other than to try and secure the Black vote in the years and decades that followed.
In fact, a number of your precious Democrats today at the top of the party are the same Clinton-era Democrats who fully supported and voted for some of the most racist legislation in the US since the Civil Rights Act was signed.
The 3 strikes rule- Disproportionally affected Black people.
For-profit prisons- Disproportionally affected Black people. And surprise surprise, the 3 strikes rule helped feed the for-profit prison system with a disproportionate number of Black people.
Then there was the drug classification separation of crack from powder cocaine and the harsher penalties that went with it for simple possession. Now, in the late 80s and 90s take a wild guess who the predominant users of crack were and who the predominant users of powder were.
Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, all were full supporters and in Biden's case, the creator and/or co-creator of the for-profit prison system and the reclassification of crack.
But yeah, I'm sure they all suddenly became staunch anti-racists.
Not at all.
Exactly; historical Dems. The issue apparently is that you view them as Dems still, while I don't, rather they were akin to today's Republicans. Hence my calling them that.
Well yes and no. At one time, everyone in the US was 'pro-slavery', until they weren't. Then each party sort of 'took on' a pro or anti-slavery role, even though members still might have had slaves. Eventually one party came out anti-slavery and had no slaves, while one party fought for the right to keep people as slaves and continued that thought process to just slaves being "not people", until that got shot down and now finally it's just they're not overall worthy/equal to the "White Man". As if White people are somehow more fucking special.
Here we go...
Sure, if you want to follow that belief, that's on you.
Woah! "My"? Jin, if I were a US citizen, I would NOT label myself a Democrat, so there is no "your" in this.
Agreed. BTW - Clinton was a fuckstain of a President and even worse human being.
Yep.
Yep.
I don't need to because... you're right.
Yep, absolutely, which is why I don't like any of them. Though I DO believe that people can grow and change, they're all politicians and their 'growth and change' will always be suspect.
But yeah, I'm sure they all suddenly became staunch anti-racists.
Unlike the still racists that dwell in the Republican Party? Well I suppose; lately those kinds will vote against anyone and anything and at least be open about their racism... until you try to call them on it, then it's "no no, I'm not racist"...
They absolutely were. Their racism at the time was "to protect the rights of farmers and working people' after all. The historic dems were VERY left of center even by today's metrics. They were also racists.
And that's hardly uncommon. Many left wing groups are racist both historically and today. Stalin, Mao in the past, and the left is horribly racist and antisemitic these days.
Nah that is the liberal way , ask dat little guy .,
Can you post a link verifying this, other than this Twitter thing? Trust me, I’m curious….
This is the Forbe's article featured in the tweet but I don't see net worth
Justin Trudeau (forbes.com)
Just doing a quick google i see estimates all over the map. 10 million to 85 million and up. Sounds like the figure isn't really a solid one.
KINSELLA: Liberals' ban on hunting rifles amounts to political suicide — Toronto Sun
Ten years after the Sandy Hook massacre, more than thirty years after the Ecole Polytechnique massacre, you’d think there’d be support for gun control. You’d think that, and you’d be right to think it. There is. In May, the pollsters at Angus Reid released some survey results. They said...
There are lots of citizens calling for more gun control. Of illegal guns in the hands of criminals. Being a criminal organization, the Liberal party naturally is not much interested in this. They are much more concerned about hunting rifles in the hands of voters that may not accept the results of a rigged election.
KINSELLA: Liberals' ban on hunting rifles amounts to political suicide — Toronto Sun
Ten years after the Sandy Hook massacre, more than thirty years after the Ecole Polytechnique massacre, you’d think there’d be support for gun control. You’d think that, and you’d be right to think it. There is. In May, the pollsters at Angus Reid released some survey results. They said...apple.news
Hmmm….they know (or claim) it’s ELEVEN MP’s (not ten, & not twelve), but they don’t know who they are?
Foreign interference did not change past election results in 'significant way': Trudeau — National Post
Trudeau chose his words differently in English, and said that 'Canadians can be reassured that the integrity of our elections was not compromised'apple.news
Trudeau was asked repeatedly in question period by Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre to disclose if he had been informed by intelligence officials, law enforcement or the public service of allegations of “any interference” in Canada’s elections.
“Our intelligence and police services take very seriously the importance of fighting against foreign interference, including Chinese interference,” said Trudeau in French.
“But I can assure you and all Canadians that the 2019 and 2021 elections were not subject to interference that changed the results in any significant way,” he added.
Poilievre noted the qualification in the prime minister’s response, accusing him of having “used words to obscure the answer.”
“Was there any interference of any kind?” he tried again.
Trudeau replied that interference in Canadian affairs by foreign powers “is an ongoing thing,” whether it be cyber interference or attempts to influence the media, and that it is something that intelligence agents and police officers work “very, very hard to counter.”
He, however, chose his words differently in English, and said that “Canadians can be reassured that the integrity of our elections was not compromised.” The rest at the above link.
A Newfie walks into a souvenir shop in St. John's. Looking around at the exotica, he noticed a very lifelike, life-sized bronze statue of a rat. It had no price tag, but it was so striking he decided he must have it.
He took it to the counter. "How much for the bronze rat?"
"Twelve dollars for the rat, one hundred dollars for the story," the owner said.
The Newfie gave the shop owner twelve dollars. "I'll take the rat. You can keep the story."
As he walked down the street carrying the rat, he soon noticed that a few real rats had crawled out of the alleys and sewers and began following him.
This was disconcerting, so he began walking faster. But within a couple of blocks, the herd of rats behind him had grown to hundreds, and they began squealing.
He began to trot toward the harbour, but looking back he saw that the rats now numbered in the millions, were squealing ever louder, and coming toward him faster and faster. Now scared, he broke into a run, then a full Olympic sprint to the edge of the harbour where he threw the bronze rat as far out as he could.
Amazingly, the millions of rats all jumped into the Bay after the bronze rat, and they all drowned.
The man walked back to the souvenir shop.
"Aha!" said the owner. "You have come back for the story."
"No," said the man, "I came back to see if you have a bronze Liberal
He took it to the counter. "How much for the bronze rat?"
"Twelve dollars for the rat, one hundred dollars for the story," the owner said.
The Newfie gave the shop owner twelve dollars. "I'll take the rat. You can keep the story."
As he walked down the street carrying the rat, he soon noticed that a few real rats had crawled out of the alleys and sewers and began following him.
This was disconcerting, so he began walking faster. But within a couple of blocks, the herd of rats behind him had grown to hundreds, and they began squealing.
He began to trot toward the harbour, but looking back he saw that the rats now numbered in the millions, were squealing ever louder, and coming toward him faster and faster. Now scared, he broke into a run, then a full Olympic sprint to the edge of the harbour where he threw the bronze rat as far out as he could.
Amazingly, the millions of rats all jumped into the Bay after the bronze rat, and they all drowned.
The man walked back to the souvenir shop.
"Aha!" said the owner. "You have come back for the story."
"No," said the man, "I came back to see if you have a bronze Liberal
Recently, Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly and Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc were almost insolent in their testimony before a parliamentary committee examining why the government had not investigated reports of political bribery by China. As Global News reports, LeBlanc “could not disclose whether he has been informed of ‘specific cases,’” while Joly “reiterated that both she and (Prime Minister Justin) Trudeau were not provided specific information.”
This leaves Canadians with a very unpleasant binary choice: either they are not telling truth, or they are. The latter option begs the more worrying question: why were they not briefed?
Government secrecy hides corruption and covers for the incompetent. Why do we still allow it? — Toronto Star
Recently, Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly and Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc were almost insolent in their testimony before a parliamentary committee, Robin V. Sears writes. Government secrecy produces bad government.
Our access-to-information programs have become a laughing stock, with years-long delays and costs to the citizen sometimes reaching thousands of dollars. For decades, bureaucrats and their ministers have told Parliament that a “lack of resources” is too blame. Really? Is that why the time taken to respond to each request is going up, and the percentage of requests fulfilled is going down? Is this a work from home thing?
When Epoch News covered this waaaay back when it was still sunburn weather was it disinformation or fake news?