Warning to humanity

[Hoid]

I believe you and yes lets clean the oceans of course but the trash has nothing at all to do with climate change, there will be frozen oceans before coastal flooding, this time, Global Warming is entirely bullshjt, the globe is cooling and the cause for this climatic change is the same as it always is, the Sun. That Sun cannot be adjusted by taxation or human intervention (praying) of any kind.

what is your degree in and where did you get it?

 

[Cliffy]

Forget it you are a loser , always have been a loser and always will be a loser . You are brainwashed and brainless and quite possibly brain dead , but carry on , you have every right to your skewed opinion and every right to spew them here .

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries!

 

[pgs]

Well if you bothered to watch the doc, pgs....there is absolutely no doubt that the perma-frost is thawing. Whether it is natural or not, I'll leave up to those who actually study it. Though I gotta say watching those huge chunks of mud and melting ice falling off the cliffs sides does raise some concern in my estimation. As does the fact that villages in the North are losing ground and infrastructure to the process. Severe? Guess that depends on if it's your house that is falling off the cliff or not.

Regardless giving more tax dollars that jumps right into general revenue will never change anything . And how long have those cliff sides been eroding ?

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries!

I at least had a mother and father . What happened to yours and why did they fail you so badly ?

 

[justlooking]

I wish that here was something that we could do

More carbon taxes will solve all these problems.

But only for the Western countries.

It's just an issue of sending more money.

 

[OmegaOm]

First off, you don't have to be against the truth of Global warming, if you are against the carbon tax. I am right against carbon tax, and I have known global warming to be a fact since the 70's. Do not use the carbon tax as a reason to go against global warming. The solution is green energy, not paying more for oil.

Other then that I can see no other reason what so ever that any body in their right mind can not believe in Global warming. Other then just plain lack of scientific knowledge. It is a fact and has been for a long time, it should not of been debated even 20 years ago. It is the reason Venus is hotter then mercury.

It has been the oil industry that has been blinding all you non believers. They have been making you look like fools among the intellectuals. You think the scientists are just trying to scare you to get money. Use your own mind to figure out the truth. Learn the physics of it. Then you can have an opinion.

Science is more then a body of knowledge. It is a way of thinking.

Learn the facts, think like a scientist, and you will see the truth yourself.

 

[captain morgan]

First off, you don't have to be against the truth of Global warming, if you are against the carbon tax. I am right against carbon tax, and I have known global warming to be a fact since the 70's. Do not use the carbon tax as a reason to go against global warming. The solution is green energy, not paying more for oil.

Other then that I can see no other reason what so ever that any body in their right mind can not believe in Global warming. Other then just plain lack of scientific knowledge. It is a fact and has been for a long time, it should not of been debated even 20 years ago. It is the reason Venus is hotter then mercury.

The entire AGW debacle is solely about causation.

Warming/cooling is factual as an observation, but the causation part has been proven to be driven by ideology, politics and money

It has been the oil industry that has been blinding all you non believers. They have been making you look like fools among the intellectuals. You think the scientists are just trying to scare you to get money. Use your own mind to figure out the truth. Learn the physics of it. Then you can have an opinion.

You been heating your house with gas and driving a car since the 70s?

Science is more then a body of knowledge. It is a way of thinking.

Learn the facts, think like a scientist, and you will see the truth yourself.

The Thinking like was uncovered at the IPCC and East Anglia University?

Thanks but no thanks

 

[DaSleeper]

And where does most of that garbage come from? Asia would be a good guess!

 

[captain morgan]

And where does most of that garbage come from? Asia would be a good guess!

Don't forget all of the whiners that thump their chests on the issue... All of them, without exception add to the mix in the grandest display of their hypocrisy

 

[AdrianB]

I appreciate the work of all scientists in general, especially the ones who are trying to save the environment. However I feel pity for them when most of their warnings to humanity reach no one, even it's linked directly to human's life benefits. We still waste electricity and water, still drive cars, still litter the streets and so on. It's a habit thing and talking about change to some people is just not working.

 

[captain morgan]

I appreciate the work of all scientists in general, especially the ones who are trying to save the environment. However I feel pity for them when most of their warnings to humanity reach no one, even it's linked directly to human's life benefits. We still waste electricity and water, still drive cars, still litter the streets and so on. It's a habit thing and talking about change to some people is just not working.

Which group(s) of scientists do you listen to?

Some have conspired to skew data to generate a predetermined result that complies with their ideologies or desired outcomes.

Al Gore, East Anglia and Michael Mann are all testament to that potential.

 

[Hoid]

IN the scientific sense there is pretty much complete agreement about climate change.

That argument was made 25 years ago and in the last 25 years all that has happened is that scientific opinion has firmed up around the facts.

It's happening and in accordance with all things true it doesn't matter one bit whether every person on earth belives it or not.

 

[AdrianB]

Which group(s) of scientists do you listen to?

Some have conspired to skew data to generate a predetermined result that complies with their ideologies or desired outcomes.

Al Gore, East Anglia and Michael Mann are all testament to that potential.

That's true I heard about the outcome and results could be manipulated. But we can also notice the changing of environment without being informed by the scientist. Summer is hotter, winter is no longer too cold, temperature dropped to like -10 max. I remember it was -18. (oh edited, it was once -30 in my area)

 

[captain morgan]

That's true I heard about the outcome and results could be manipulated. But we can also notice the changing of environment without being informed by the scientist. Summer is hotter, winter is no longer too cold, temperature dropped to like -10 max. I remember it was -18. (oh edited, it was once -30 in my area)

Observable objective facts are exactly that ~ fact

What is at the heart of the matter is causation, and there is currently a vocal lobby group that insists that it is caused via human activity.... this is where so many disagree, as is evidenced by the cyclical nature of not only the climate but the shifting position(s) of the lobby groups. What's more intriguing is that all of the lobby groups believe that the solution lies in assessing taxes (and here's the important part) and transferring that money to developing nations.

Clearly, there is no logic whatsoever in this proposed solution

Back in the 70s, Suzuki was thumping his chest on the impending ice-age that was almost upon us and, you guessed it, the situation caused by man. A few years goes by and the same individual has done a 180 on the climate perspective, but somehow assesses causation on humanity once again.

It's unimaginable that there can be any form of belief that the science is settled or that there is any consensus considering the ever changing position of the squeaky wheels

 

[pgs]

That's true I heard about the outcome and results could be manipulated. But we can also notice the changing of environment without being informed by the scientist. Summer is hotter, winter is no longer too cold, temperature dropped to like -10 max. I remember it was -18. (oh edited, it was once -30 in my area)

Don't worry , isn't it good that you no longer need to wear a parka and longjohns in winter ?

 

[Angstrom]

Don't worry , isn't it good that you no longer need to wear a parka and longjohns in winter ?

Plus the next ice age could be easier to handle and the death toll not so great with hoter temperature.

 

[Jinentonix]

Well who are you going to believe? 1,500 scientists or 6 climate change deniers who never finished high school?

What are you going to believe, reality or a bunch of ginned up computer models? None of which have been anywhere close to accurate.
Guess what else causes rising sea levels? That's right, subduction quakes and new land masses. It's called displacement, a really neat phenomenon you can observe right in your very own bathtub. Not to mention that new land masses along with mountain erosion and continental drift are causes for climate change.

Scientists also exclaim that volcanoes contribute 0.2GT of CO2 every year while humans produce 35GT. That is dead wrong. Why? Because scientists only measure the output of land based volcanoes and a few of the vents in more shallow waters. If we use the absolute minimum estimate for the number of submarine volcanoes, vents and stacks, then we're looking at roughly 200GT/yr from volcanoes as opposed to the 35GT from humans. That's almost 6 times the emissions.

What's interesting is this "15,000 scientists" claim sounds an awful lot like the bullshit 97% consensus.

Well who are you going to believe? 1,500 scientists or 6 climate change deniers who never finished high school?

Advocacy science isn't science, but whatever.

 

[petros]

Plus the next ice age could be easier to handle and the death toll not so great with hoter temperature.

Next? We never exited our current ice age.

 

[Hoid]

What are you going to believe, reality or a bunch of ginned up computer models? None of which have been anywhere close to accurate.
Guess what else causes rising sea levels? That's right, subduction quakes and new land masses. It's called displacement, a really neat phenomenon you can observe right in your very own bathtub. Not to mention that new land masses along with mountain erosion and continental drift are causes for climate change.

Scientists also exclaim that volcanoes contribute 0.2GT of CO2 every year while humans produce 35GT. That is dead wrong. Why? Because scientists only measure the output of land based volcanoes and a few of the vents in more shallow waters. If we use the absolute minimum estimate for the number of submarine volcanoes, vents and stacks, then we're looking at roughly 200GT/yr from volcanoes as opposed to the 35GT from humans. That's almost 6 times the emissions.

What's interesting is this "15,000 scientists" claim sounds an awful lot like the bullshit 97% consensus.

Advocacy science isn't science, but whatever.

IN summary: Science is wrong - science says so.

It's a difficult argument to make.

 

[EagleSmack]

I forgot... it's "settled" science and only electronic bank transfers can save the planet.

 

[captain morgan]

only electronic bank transfers can save the planet.

True, and they have complex computer models that successfully demonstrate how bank transfers will stop global warming.

Fact