Voters go to the polls in the UK General Election
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... as long as the Orangemen agree to it ...
They want Brexit so that they can build a border wall between them and the Republic.
I bet that hey make May pay for it.
Oh, they'll agree to it. They're allies and natural bedfellows of May's Conservative and Unionist Party. Britain is about to have an orangey-blue government.
Of course, even before this has happened, the Left are protesting about it. There's an online petition demanding that May should not form a government with the DUP right-wing "extremists" (for having views espoused by probably most Britons) who, according to the petition, want to end gay marriage, bring back the death penalty, end women's rights (this is a party with a woman as its leader), ban begging and for being "besties" (as the petition puts it) with Ukip.
I, for one, would be happy to see a right-wing, anti-EU Tory/DUP coalition. The election result could turn out to be a blessing in disguise. DUP leader and former Northern Ireland First Minister Arlene Foster, who survived IRA gunshots being fired at her school bus when she was a young girl, could be made Deputy PM.
The DUP are against a hard border with the Republic. They want a continuation of the Common Travel Area, the free movement area between the UK, the Republic, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands which was established in 1923, predating the EU.
Tory housing minister who wrote book on how to win marginal seat loses marginal seat
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J.K. Rowling, Barack Obama, the list goes on. Prominent liberals all opposed Jeremy Corbyn — and it didn’t matter.
While Corbyn pulled off unexpected gains in yesterday’s elections, he did it without the assistance of some high-profile liberal voices.
When France stood poised between electing racist populist Marine Le Pen and and neoliberal supply-sider Emmanuel Macron, Obama intervened, explicitly endorsing Macron in a seventy-second video, arguing that he “has stood up for liberal values” and “appeals to people’s hopes, and not their fears.” This was on top of the “bromantic” phone call he had with Macron, which many interpreted as a coded message of support in a country where Obama has a 90 percent approval rating.
Macron likely didn’t need the push, as he was already leading against Le Pen. But Obama had told the public he would step into public life when he thought “our core values may be at stake.”
Yet when the contest in the United Kingdom came down to Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn and the Conservatives’ Theresa May, Obama was nowhere to be found.
Of course, the Labour Manifesto was a strong set of social-democratic policies that most Democrats would tell you they would be happy to put forward in the United States (with the caveat of “if only it were politically possible”). Macron, by contrast, believes in GOP-style tax cuts for the rich, deregulation, and once told an unemployed protester who said he couldn’t afford a suit that “the best way to pay for a suit is to work for one.”
At the same time Labour was fighting for eleventh-hour votes, Obama found the time to “bring the bromance back” by sitting down for dinner with Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau, the latest in Trudeau’s series of faux-spontaneous, internet-courting publicity stunts.
Perhaps there’s a simpler explanation: Beyond issues of decorum and precedent, perhaps the reason for the silence is correct: Obama is just not that committed to left-wing political change. After all, he suggested in an interview last year that Labour under Corbyn had lost touch with “fact and reality.”
Another high-profile liberal figure — a self-described “democratic socialist” — who could have used her popularity and influence to build up enthusiasm for Labour in advance of the vote was Harry Potter author J. K. Rowling, an outspoken Labour supporter. Rowling has spent the better part of the last year relentlessly criticizing Corbyn, both for his ideas and his electability. For example:
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/06/corbyn-jk-rowling-obama-blair-macron
While Corbyn pulled off unexpected gains in yesterday’s elections, he did it without the assistance of some high-profile liberal voices.
When France stood poised between electing racist populist Marine Le Pen and and neoliberal supply-sider Emmanuel Macron, Obama intervened, explicitly endorsing Macron in a seventy-second video, arguing that he “has stood up for liberal values” and “appeals to people’s hopes, and not their fears.” This was on top of the “bromantic” phone call he had with Macron, which many interpreted as a coded message of support in a country where Obama has a 90 percent approval rating.
Macron likely didn’t need the push, as he was already leading against Le Pen. But Obama had told the public he would step into public life when he thought “our core values may be at stake.”
Yet when the contest in the United Kingdom came down to Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn and the Conservatives’ Theresa May, Obama was nowhere to be found.
Of course, the Labour Manifesto was a strong set of social-democratic policies that most Democrats would tell you they would be happy to put forward in the United States (with the caveat of “if only it were politically possible”). Macron, by contrast, believes in GOP-style tax cuts for the rich, deregulation, and once told an unemployed protester who said he couldn’t afford a suit that “the best way to pay for a suit is to work for one.”
At the same time Labour was fighting for eleventh-hour votes, Obama found the time to “bring the bromance back” by sitting down for dinner with Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau, the latest in Trudeau’s series of faux-spontaneous, internet-courting publicity stunts.
Perhaps there’s a simpler explanation: Beyond issues of decorum and precedent, perhaps the reason for the silence is correct: Obama is just not that committed to left-wing political change. After all, he suggested in an interview last year that Labour under Corbyn had lost touch with “fact and reality.”
Another high-profile liberal figure — a self-described “democratic socialist” — who could have used her popularity and influence to build up enthusiasm for Labour in advance of the vote was Harry Potter author J. K. Rowling, an outspoken Labour supporter. Rowling has spent the better part of the last year relentlessly criticizing Corbyn, both for his ideas and his electability. For example:
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/06/corbyn-jk-rowling-obama-blair-macron
Thanks, bones, i'd be lost in the wilderness of my own mind without you as a guide. :roll:
Looks like after their smear campaign on Corbyn failed the British papers cracked open the emergency vault as a diversion
What the Daily Mail is reporting is that she's not a true Tory and that she should be gone (despite two days ago insisting she was the only way to have a proper Brexit).
Speaking of Brexit, The Express insists she's clinging on to save Brexit (and that this must be top priority), while The Sun thinks she's only staying to stop "Red Jezza", and because the Tories don't have any other way to avoid stopping Brexit.
The Daily Star meanwhile, which generally is more interested Big Brother than any actual news, seems to think there might be a second Brexit vote now.
Outside of the broadsheets, only the Mirror seems to even mention the DUP, at least as far as the front page goes. It's as if the right wing media doesn't want you to know just how awful the DUP are.
Newspaper headlines
Newspaper headlines: May 'clings on' with 'coalition of crackpots' - BBC News
What the Daily Mail is reporting is that she's not a true Tory and that she should be gone (despite two days ago insisting she was the only way to have a proper Brexit).
Speaking of Brexit, The Express insists she's clinging on to save Brexit (and that this must be top priority), while The Sun thinks she's only staying to stop "Red Jezza", and because the Tories don't have any other way to avoid stopping Brexit.
The Daily Star meanwhile, which generally is more interested Big Brother than any actual news, seems to think there might be a second Brexit vote now.
Outside of the broadsheets, only the Mirror seems to even mention the DUP, at least as far as the front page goes. It's as if the right wing media doesn't want you to know just how awful the DUP are.
Newspaper headlines
Newspaper headlines: May 'clings on' with 'coalition of crackpots' - BBC News
Corbyn is a joke. He's gutted the constituency of Labour which was once made up of resource, industrial and agricultural workers with liberal young urban professionals and college students. He represents the shallowest of moral relativism, radical individualism, post industrialism and multiculturalism.
He has nothing to do with 'labour' in the sense of a productive, integrated, national, industrial economy any more. All of that has been destroyed by the EU and Free Trade. His supposed success in this election is solely down to May's inability to articulate a national vision with which to frame the Brexit talks. I honestly don't think she has any real understanding or sympathy for it.
There is really no difference between the neoliberal Corbyn and the neoconservative May. They both serve the same master of global free markets and cultural libertarianism.
He has nothing to do with 'labour' in the sense of a productive, integrated, national, industrial economy any more. All of that has been destroyed by the EU and Free Trade. His supposed success in this election is solely down to May's inability to articulate a national vision with which to frame the Brexit talks. I honestly don't think she has any real understanding or sympathy for it.
There is really no difference between the neoliberal Corbyn and the neoconservative May. They both serve the same master of global free markets and cultural libertarianism.
Well, it would appear that she's not the brightest bulb in the box.
She had a Parliamentary majority, and no need to call an election until 2020. She threw it away.
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Britons voted to leave the EU without understanding the terms or cost of Brexit.
https://www.nytimes.com/video/world...nowing-the-terms-of-brexit.html?smid=pl-share
She had a Parliamentary majority, and no need to call an election until 2020. She threw it away.
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Britons voted to leave the EU without understanding the terms or cost of Brexit.
https://www.nytimes.com/video/world...nowing-the-terms-of-brexit.html?smid=pl-share
It's not stupidity that is the factor in what May did. It is blatant ARROGANCE.......and the crazy thing is that the arrogance continues. What happened at her gamble should have brought a dose of humility to her but not the case. She won't be in power long.
That Brexit thing will be harder to put into effect now. Cameron's gamble was just as arrogant.
regardless........it is sad to watch the wonderful UK going though this transition time under this kind of leadership. Also Gender has nothing to do with it.
That Brexit thing will be harder to put into effect now. Cameron's gamble was just as arrogant.
regardless........it is sad to watch the wonderful UK going though this transition time under this kind of leadership. Also Gender has nothing to do with it.
I used to say "there's no such thing as a stupid question." Thanks for teaching me different.
Regardless of what you call it, it's about the most brain dead political f**king move I've seen in years. The woman should be out of there forthwith.
Gerry will argue about that one.
It wasn't stupid.
Hell, it shouldn't have even been considered a risk or gamble, but no one would've ever expected what happened since calling it.
Where she ****ed up was in the way she governed since and people recognized an opportunity for change.
Hell, it shouldn't have even been considered a risk or gamble, but no one would've ever expected what happened since calling it.
Where she ****ed up was in the way she governed since and people recognized an opportunity for change.
Gavin Barwell appointed Theresa May's chief of staff
A former minister who lost his seat in the general election has been appointed Theresa May’s new chief of staff.
Gavin Barwell was ousted from his Croydon Central constituency as a result of Labour’s unexpectedly strong showing. The prime minister said that he would bring “considerable experience” to the post.
Barwell has the enormous task of stepping into the role that had been jointly held by Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill, May’s long-term political allies who resigned in the wake of the election result.
He was known as a campaigning MP on the moderate wing of the party, who was keen to improve the party’s vote among minority ethnic voters. He is widely liked by Conservative colleagues, in contrast to his predecessors.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/10/gavin-barwell-appointed-theresa-mays-chief-of-staff
To the left-wing BBC, the DUP are crackpots, that's because anybody who doesn't share crackpot lefty-liberal views and believes that marriage should only be between a man and a woman and doesn't believe in climate change is a crackpot according to the liberals.
To most ordinary Britons, however, the DUP are just social conservatives who hold ordinary, everyday views that millions of Britons hold. There's nothing crackpot about their views.
There has already been a second EU referendum. That was this general election. And the British people showed in this election that they still want Brexit, by voting en masse for the two parties - Conservatives and Labour - who now have it in their manifestos to deliver Brexit. Conservatives and Labour combined won 580 of the 650 seats, whilst the parties who DO want a second EU referendum, such as the LibDems and the SNP, didn't do very well at all, especially the SNP, who lost 21 seats. This election has shown that the British people have no appetite for a second referendum and just want the government to crack on and deliver it.
Actually the results show the Brits are putting pressure on May to get 'er (brexit) done
George Soros Loses Money Following Brexit Vote
http://yournewswire.com/george-soros-loses-money-following-brexit-vote/
Don’t doubt The Donald: Top investor George Soros loses $1BILLION trading AGAINST Trump
GEORGE Soros lost £788.2million ($1BILLION) last year betting AGAINST Donald Trump on the stock market.
http://www.express.co.uk/finance/ci...p-1-billion-trading-loses-Dow-Jones-Ray-Dalio
...and of course the problem is the EU forming, Jew burning, burka wearing, woman hating, nazicommunists, and their funders are losing big financially on their having their recent selections running a muck
George Soros Loses Money Following Brexit Vote
http://yournewswire.com/george-soros-loses-money-following-brexit-vote/
Don’t doubt The Donald: Top investor George Soros loses $1BILLION trading AGAINST Trump
GEORGE Soros lost £788.2million ($1BILLION) last year betting AGAINST Donald Trump on the stock market.
http://www.express.co.uk/finance/ci...p-1-billion-trading-loses-Dow-Jones-Ray-Dalio
...and of course the problem is the EU forming, Jew burning, burka wearing, woman hating, nazicommunists, and their funders are losing big financially on their having their recent selections running a muck
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