Veteran battles Hydro One over meter

[DaSleeper]

Simple solution.....There you go.............

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If that doesn't work.....Put one on your head :lol:

 

[tober]

“They said they’ve got every right to do these things but they should have asked first whether we want the new smart meter or not.
“The answer would have been obviously no.”

He is legally in the right. He has the right to deny access and Hydro has the right to either apply to court or cut off power. He now has the right to sue in small claims court. If he doesn't, he loses the War of the Stupids.

 

[taxslave]

In BC we have a class action suit against Hydro and the government to stop installation of these invasive contraptions. Smart (dumb) meters were banned in California and had to be removed from all houses after dozens of building caught fire just behind the meters. The company tried to say it was faulty house wiring but that didn't hold water. What they found was that most house wiring cannot hold the currents coming from the meters. In our valley, the meters mess with our internet services, cause problems for people who are sensitive to electro-magnetic out puts and cause all kinds of health problems for these people. BC Hydro has had to put a hold on installing any more meters until the outcome of the law suit. Time Ontarians did the same.

Pure BS. This has been going on for some time now in BC. Got a letter a few days ago fromBC Hydro. As of Nov 1 you may keep an old analog meter for $35/mo. or you may have a smart meter with some features removed for $20/mo. Or you can have a smart meter at no charge and access your usage chart daily.
My understanding is that the ones causing fires in California are not the same make that BC Hydro is using.
Funny how people with cell phones embedded in their ears and all kinds of wireless devices at work and home are worried about the minimal amount of radio waves coming from a device mounted outside their house.

 

[damngrumpy]

First of all in Canada we do not have property rights entrenched in the constitution.
Secondly the smart meter program is not going to do health damage. They will be
spying on you though.
These power companies are going to do serious damage to your bank account.
They are planning for time of use billing. That is where its cheaper to do your
laundry at 2am but they will charge the hell out of you for your alarm clock in order
to get up and do laundry.
Why all this crap they want to put us through? We are on the North American Grid.
the good ole Canuck Power is going to be sold south of the border and your taxes
will pay for the conversion. I am opposed on that basis. We should not be on any
grid with any foreign power. As with oil, gas, power and all natural resources we
should supply Canadians and Canadian business at a domestic price and an export
price sold for considerably more.

 

[tober]

Pure BS. This has been going on for some time now in BC. Got a letter a few days ago fromBC Hydro. As of Nov 1 you may keep an old analog meter for $35/mo. or you may have a smart meter with some features removed for $20/mo. Or you can have a smart meter at no charge and access your usage chart daily.
My understanding is that the ones causing fires in California are not the same make that BC Hydro is using.
Funny how people with cell phones embedded in their ears and all kinds of wireless devices at work and home are worried about the minimal amount of radio waves coming from a device mounted outside their house.

That sounds extortionate. As a public utility BC Hydro is required to have cabinet approval for any fees - is this approved to your knowledge?

First of all in Canada we do not have property rights entrenched in the constitution.

No, but we do have the traditions and protection of the common law. Utility companies are not permitted to trespass. To enter property once access has been denied is trespass. BC Hydro must go to court and get an order if they have an easement or contractual right they wish enforced. Individual property rights do not require Charter protection to be enforceable.

Secondly the smart meter program is not going to do health damage. They will be spying on you though. These power companies are going to do serious damage to your bank account. They are planning for time of use billing. That is where its cheaper to do your laundry at 2am but they will charge the hell out of you for your alarm clock in order to get up and do laundry. Why all this crap they want to put us through? We are on the North American Grid. the good ole Canuck Power is going to be sold south of the border and your taxes will pay for the conversion. I am opposed on that basis. We should not be on any grid with any foreign power. As with oil, gas, power and all natural resources we should supply Canadians and Canadian business at a domestic price and an export price sold for considerably more.

Well put. Say thank you to conservative governments for kissing the American free enterprise ***. Start with BC Liberals then go to Ottawa Conservatives.

 

[hunboldt]

I find this completely invasive and just another step towards the Orwellian 'big brother' totalitarian state that our govts and their controllers keep trying to implement on the masses. The sooner the people of this country wake up and band together to destroy our present form of government and their absolute control of us the better!!!!!

Naked Crib with SLM?8O

 

[PoliticalNick]

Naked Crib with SLM?8O

I'd love to but it's a long drive from AB to ON.

That sounds extortionate. As a public utility BC Hydro is required to have cabinet approval for any fees - is this approved to your knowledge?

Wrong! They do not get approval from the cabinet or any other governmental committee or official. There is a regulatory body called the BC Utilities Commission made up of a Chairman and 10 commissioners hired from a cross-section of utilities and businesses within BC.

Welcome to the British Columbia Utilities Commission

 

[hunboldt]

He is legally in the right. He has the right to deny access and Hydro has the right to either apply to court or cut off power. He now has the right to sue in small claims court. If he doesn't, he loses the War of the Stupids.

No kidding. Battling over smart meter installs is one of the bizarre overkills of the energy industry. I'd take a smart meter if there were no other costs involved-but the costs involved in battling out customer by customer far exceed any savings the utility may realise.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I'm still trying to figure out the significance to the issue of this guy's veteran status.

 

[hunboldt]

I'm still trying to figure out the significance to the issue of this guy's veteran status.

Dealing with Canadian Utility providers makes you realise that the 'Nazis won.'
Its a 'kinda stupid' issue that you don't run into in the States :lol:

Seriously- if anyone wants to pay the higher costs of having a manual meter- go for it. The cost advantage of a 'smart meter' isn't passed on to a consumer here. Instead, we harass the BACKSIDE OUT OF ANYONE WHO IS STEPPING OUT OF LINE. even though the cost of harassing this fellow outweighs the return.

I'd take a smart meter if there is an advantage passed on to me.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Dealing with Canadian Utility providers makes you realise that the 'Nazis won.'
Its a 'kinda stupid' issue that you don't run into in the States :lol:

Shirley, you jest.

Seriously- if anyone wants to pay the higher costs of having a manual meter- go for it. The cost advantage of a 'smart meter' isn't passed on to a consumer here. Instead, we harass the BACKSIDE OUT OF ANYONE WHO IS STEPPING OUT OF LINE. even though the cost of harassing this fellow outweighs the return.

I'd take a smart meter if there is an advantage passed on to me.

Power ain't a right. If you want power, you need to put up with whatever the power company demands. Unless it's a regulated monopoly, in which case you can go to the Public Utilities Commission, and spend a whole bunch of time and money learning the PUC is in the back pocket of the power company.

 

[Cliffy]

http://www.stopsmartmetersbc.ca/html/

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This letter was submitted by an Okanagan resident:

An Open Letter to BC Hydro
Dear Charles Reid and the executive team of BC Hydro,

Yesterday I read of your proposal to charge customers who don't want smart meters $20.00/month - that is $1,000 every four years - for the privilege of not having a radio transmitter ten feet from my head while I sleep eight hours a day for the rest of my life. Mr. Reid, I read your offer yesterday, and it still stinks today.

BC Hydro should allow customers without smart meters to read their own meters, and report over the internet to save British Columbians $millions of dollars. I can withdraw cash myself from an instant teller machine at my bank. I can check out my own groceries at Safeway. I can fill up my own vehicle with gasoline and pay at the pump. I can buy coffee with a Tim card. I even paid my taxes over the internet this year, along with hundreds of thousands of other Canadians. Why couldn't BC Hydro allow customers to read their own meters, and report it over the internet to save ourselves money? It wouldn't be difficult at all.

Mr Reid, I think your proposal to make people pay $20.00/ month is disgusting enough, but when you tell those people who don't agree by Dec 1 they must pay $35.00/month - that is plain filthy, and I think you know it. With solutions like that, the BC Hydro executives should probably resign, and let someone else manage the corporation.

 

[petros]

Buy a line filter.

 

[taxslave]

That sounds extortionate. As a public utility BC Hydro is required to have cabinet approval for any fees - is this approved to your knowledge?



The letter says there is also a $100 setup fee for radio off smart meters. Costs will be reviewed by the BC utilities commission.
I don't think cabinet has any real say in it.

 

[DaSleeper]

It's been a year in August since we've had that meter (At no cost) and until this year we would be away for three months, May June and July traveling, and this year, we were away only two weeks in the summer. We're on equal billing, and August is the "leveling" month, not only was there no charge but they put money back into my bank account.
That could be just because my wife does the clothes drying after seven, off peak, on weekdays.

 

[captain morgan]

I have to chuckle a bit re: the 'veteran' that is fighting this tooth and nail... If he's that opposed to his service provider and their policies, he can easily opt-out from their service and make alternate arrangements for his power.

.. And like TB mentioned; what does this man's veteran status have to do with anything? I was scanning the article for any references of his life/death struggle against Stalin in opposing the dastardly plan to install smart meters world wide

 

[petros]

It's been a year in August since we've had that meter (At no cost) and until this year we would be away for three months, May June and July traveling, and this year, we were away only two weeks in the summer. We're on equal billing, and August is the "leveling" month, not only was there no charge but they put money back into my bank account.
That could be just because my wife does the clothes drying after seven, off peak, on weekdays.

It's because they overbill on equalized.

I have to chuckle a bit re: the 'veteran' that is fighting this tooth and nail... If he's that opposed to his service provider and their policies, he can easily opt-out from their service and make alternate arrangements for his power.

.. And like TB mentioned; what does this man's veteran status have to do with anything? I was scanning the article for any references of his life/death struggle against Stalin in opposing the dastardly plan to install smart meters world wide

He may not care for load shedding or the EMF. It doesn't say.

 

[Spade]

I'm still trying to figure out the significance to the issue of this guy's veteran status.

It's to justify outrage. If he were an aged environmentalist, the Toronto Sun would have written a scathing condemnation of the geezer and told him if he didn't like it, to buy a windmill!

 

[captain morgan]

He may not care for load shedding or the EMF. It doesn't say.

That's fine; but if he isn't supportive of the service that they provide (under their rules), he is free do seek alternatives

 

[hunboldt]

That's fine; but if he isn't supportive of the service that they provide (under their rules), he is free do seek alternatives

And how would you define those alternatives? Solar panels? An expensive lock in contractor?
CM, for me to go off my gas meter, the alt charge is 5.89 / /gigajoule on a '
lock in contract, monthly admn fees not cancellable if I move.