Veteran battles Hydro One over meter
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As far as I know the "smart meter", has no idea which circuits do what. The bathroom light could run off a completely unrelated circuit. In our house the master bedrom lights are on the same breaker as the kitchen lights. I am not an electrician but house wiring has always seemed arcane.
"Wrong?" Oh dear, what an emotion-filled reply.
The point is, for those of us who do not feel compelled to call others wrong and nit-pick meaningless differences, that our system of government has checks and balances. Various committees or commissions make recommendations but our elected representatives have the final say. Cabinet has to approve and pass regulations. The regulations do not have to follow recommendations.
Not my problem.
If buddy doesn't like the company or policies, that's his tough sh*t... He can always look at solar or get a portable generator.
The bottom line is this, the company is a service provider - IF you wish to consume their product/service, then understand that they make the rules
Pretty much the same thing here; but even if their were alternatives, chances are that there would be policies in those companies that won't appease all the people all the time.
Maybe what the producer should offer to those that don't want a smart meter is tp pay the additional cost of having an employee go out to their home and take the reading... I'm guessing that the same people that don't want the smart meter will piss and moan about having to cover-off on the additional costs of doing business.
That isn't an answer, CM- that is a 'cop out'. A utility is exactly that- a service provider to the citizens, publically owned unless you live in the F__U--- called Alberta, where the ancient playbook got thrown out the window. and prices Doubled.
Man oh man, do you need a course in basic citizenship.
So,in your example, if the tycoon owning the 'essential utility' only agrees to provide you with electricity only if you surrender your nine year old daughter to his possession, that is OK - as he who has the gold makes the rules?
Ohhh CM...hath harper and Mackay so corrupted you?
Been paying the same amount per month for the last 4 years, paid a bit less on the 12th month, but never a refund before.....
You should maybe take a course or do some studying on the subject before you make these ridiculous remarks. The govt has absolutely nothing to do with BC Hydro other than being the majority shareholder. They are legally bound by legislation to NOT interfere or affect the operation of the corporation. This is done because it would be too easy for it to be used for political gain by whatever party held sway over the legislature at any given time.
So just to bring you up to speed. The CEO of BCH and the rest of the board decide how to run the company. If they want to increase rates or make any major changes to the service they have to apply to the commission for permission. The commission can either accept or reject the proposal or send it back for revision. Nowhere does it ever cross the desk of an MLA or cabinet Minister and it doesn't go to the floor of the legislature for a vote.
No run along and learn about the things you wish to speak on before you look any sillier. :roll:
Too funny... The most realistic of all answers that conforms neatly with your (likely) ideals of rights and freedoms is a cop-out.
Is there any part of this citizenship course that details that folks have individual responsibilities to themselves as well as to the community in which they live?
Thanks Comrade, I think that I'll take a pass on that
Wow, that was fast... I never imagined that it would take you so little time to invoke the theater and drama to make a point.... The eevviiiiillll 'tycoon' vs the poor share-cropper that is forced to sell his one and only child into servitude.
Tell ya what, the solution is basically simple... You need to scrape together the money to buy out your local/provincial energy supplier and then you'll be free to operate it any way you see fit.
Nothing of the sort - I just haven't been infected with the brand of Marxist syphilis that you contracted low these many years ago
Tell ya what CM....If it is a crown corporation then the citizens DO own it and it should be operated the way we dictate. That should be in a manner that is not based on increasing the bottom line but with rates that will sustain maintenance and upgrades. Anything like smart-meters should be put forth to the public for a referendum, not decided by some super-rich a$$hole who wants a bigger bonus and a few more 'fact-finding'trips to 5-star hotels in warm sunny places in January.
Too funny... The most realistic of all answers that conforms neatly with your (likely) ideals of rights and freedoms is a cop-out.
Is there any part of this citizenship course that details that folks have individual responsibilities to themselves as well as to the community in which they live?
Thanks Comrade, I think that I'll take a pass on that
Wow, that was fast... I never imagined that it would take you so little time to invoke the theater and drama to make a point.... The eevviiiiillll 'tycoon' vs the poor share-cropper that is forced to sell his one and only child into servitude.
Tell ya what, the solution is basically simple... You need to scrape together the money to buy out your local/provincial energy supplier and then you'll be free to operate it any way you see fit.
Nothing of the sort - I just haven't been infected with the brand of Marxist syphilis that you contracted low these many years ago
Interesting "branding' what you define as Marxist syphilis actually comes form the encyclicals of John Paul the second.
I was under the impression,. from somewhere that both of us were Catholics.
Sorry if I misinterpreted your faith, which seems to come form 'a different source'.
However, if you are interested in the Catholic view on this , you can find the encyclicals at :
Pope John Paul II
LABOREM EXERCENS
THROUGH WORK man must earn his daily bread1 and contribute to the continual advance of science and technology and, above all, to elevating unceasingly the cultural and moral level of the society within which he lives in community with those who belong to the same family. And work means any activity by man, whether manual or intellectual, whatever its nature or circumstances; it means any human activity that can and must be recognized as work, in the midst of all the many activities of which man is capable and to which he is predisposed by his very nature, by virtue of humanity itself. Man is made to be in the visible universe an image and likeness of God himself2, and he is placed in it in order to subdue the earth3. From the beginning therefore he is called to work. Work is one of the characteristics that distinguish man from the rest of creatures, whose activity for sustaining their lives cannot be called work. Only man is capable of work, and only man works, at the same time by work occupying his existence on earth. Thus work bears a particular mark of man and of humanity, the mark of a person operating within a community of persons. And this mark decides its interior characteristics; in a sense it constitutes its very nature.
THROUGH WORK man must earn his daily bread1 and contribute to the continual advance of science and technology and, above all, to elevating unceasingly the cultural and moral level of the society within which he lives in community with those who belong to the same family. And work means any activity by man, whether manual or intellectual, whatever its nature or circumstances; it means any human activity that can and must be recognized as work, in the midst of all the many activities of which man is capable and to which he is predisposed by his very nature, by virtue of humanity itself. Man is made to be in the visible universe an image and likeness of God himself2, and he is placed in it in order to subdue the earth3. From the beginning therefore he is called to work. Work is one of the characteristics that distinguish man from the rest of creatures, whose activity for sustaining their lives cannot be called work. Only man is capable of work, and only man works, at the same time by work occupying his existence on earth. Thus work bears a particular mark of man and of humanity, the mark of a person operating within a community of persons. And this mark decides its interior characteristics; in a sense it constitutes its very nature.
Since when does this one yahoo speak for everyone and therefore is able to unilaterally dictate to the utility how they operate?
As far as the speculation on the 'super rich azzhole' - you gotta link? A name? Any proof?
I didn't think so - just a whole lot of whining about how tough you have it.
Don't like it? Install a solar panel or wind turbine... That'll show him! No more fact finding missions or 5 star hotels!
Nope... I used Marx for a reason.
Nice try at a deflection though... I take it from your inability to respond to the actual points that you don't have any tangible points to support your position?
Aye , and the Red Gospel Gets Worse:
98. In a word, we can say that the cultural change which we are calling for demands from everyone the courage to adopt a new life-style, consisting in making practical choices-at the personal, family, social and international level-on the basis of a correct scale of values: the primacy of being over having, 130 of the person over things. 131 This renewed life-style involves a passing from indifference to concern for others, from rejection to acceptance of them. Other people are not rivals from whom we must defend ourselves, but brothers and sisters to be supported. They are to be loved for their own sakes, and they enrich us by their very presence.
In this mobilization for a new culture of life no one must feel excluded: everyone has an important role to play. Together with the family, teachers and educators have a particularly valuable contribution to make. Much will depend on them if young people, trained in true freedom, are to be able to preserve for themselves and make known to others new, authentic ideals of life, and if they are to grow in respect for and service to every other person, in the family and in society.
Evangelium vitae: text - IntraText SC
Worse than Lenin, CM. CAN you IMAGINE?
What I do know is that one day a new smart was installed. Nothing was done to anything inside the house. I'm sure that by adding a few nik naks, and doing a bit of wiring, we can do all sorts of things. Just adding a so-called smart meter by it'self is not going to be that exciting.
Do BC hydro have tiered rates yet?
Nothing has to be done inside the house. The meter database already knows which appliances run at which frequencies.
Nothing has to be done inside the house. The meter database already knows which appliances run at which frequencies.
The idea behind the smart meters is that your appliances will eventually come with Transponders that can be activated to cycle off, reducing load on the system.
Anytime that ideology is forced at the barrel of a gun, it IS worse.
So, now that you're deflecting madly to change the direction - can I assume that you have conceded your position?