Vegetarian diets

[Twila]

Vegetables on the other hand I can rend and crush because they have no eyes.

You should change your reasoning to many plants have evolved to require animals eating them in order to spread their seeds. Some plants actually require being partially digested and crapped out (their own little nutrition pile) in order to grow.

 

[AnnaG]

Meat centrism is how many people live, everyday can have three meals built around some piece of flesh from some tortured unhappy animal. A tortured factory animals meat is unfit to eat for the most part, it stinks of synthetics. A number of years ago I determined to eat no meat that I hadn't raised or run over but that has other bad associations for me because I tend toward relationships with the animals that ultimately leave me feeling like a liar and a murderer come butchering time. Try talking to pigs or chickens all day knowing you,re not being honest with them. Hunting and fishing is different. Vegetables on the other hand I can rend and crush because they have no eyes. I know, I'm softening in my chronological advancement, but I can't cut throats anymore.

Beaver Tail


4 Beaver tails
1 Onion
1 tablespoon Butter
2 tablespoons Prepared mustard
1 cup Sherry
2-3 tablespoons hot sauce
3 cups Barbecue sauce
Grated parmesan cheese

Place whole beaver tails on barbecue or oven broiler rack until scaly skin
blisters. Let cool in freezer compartment. Remove cold blistered skin and
discard. Put white meat aside.
In shallow roasting pan, saute onion in butter until clear, stir in mustard
to coat onions, then stir in sherry, hot sauce and half of barbecue sauce,
making sure bottom of pan is covered. Spread out beaver tails in pan, cover
with remaining barbecue sauce, sprinkle with cheese, and bake in 450 degree
oven for 45 minutes. Serve hot with wild or ordinary rice topped with
generous spoonfuls of remaining sauce.

 

[AnnaG]

I've eaten moose and a pile of other things, and I've eaten portabello mushrooms before... it was how they processed the mushrooms into a burger patty that made them taste horrible. If they were just the mushrooms on top of an actual burger, that'd be a different story.

Oh, I believe you. I don't care what people put with tofu, for instance, to me it tastes like bread dough flavored with whatever it was cooked in. lol

 

[AnnaG]

what, you don't think that meat flavoured vegetables, like vegetarian pepperoni, are organic and healthy? lol.

Why do vegetarians always try to mimic meat products? IE, tofu dogs, veggie burgers, etc. Let em make their own dishes and come up with their own names for food. lol

 

[mabudon]

I would wager that vegetarian pepperoni is at LEAST as "healthy" as actual pepperoni, peculiar provenance aside. And to be fair, "fake meat" products actually have ingredients listed, whereas when you buy beef all's you get is the cut and grade for info, leaving out all the actual chemical ingredients like antibiotics, hormones etc

 

[karrie]

I would wager that vegetarian pepperoni is at LEAST as "healthy" as actual pepperoni, peculiar provenance aside. And to be fair, "fake meat" products actually have ingredients listed, whereas when you buy beef all's you get is the cut and grade for info, leaving out all the actual chemical ingredients like antibiotics, hormones etc

No, you don't get the chemical taint listed for vegetables either mabudon. Your apples don't have an ingredient list for what chemicals may have been sprayed on them.

 

[mabudon]

I was talking about fake meat, there, Karrie, try to keep up would you, this thread is full of a whole bunch of people talking out their butts and when an actual vegetarian posts, they change the damn subject and start talking about some sort of fictional "example" vegetarians and what they purportedly believe

 

[karrie]

I was talking about fake meat, there, Karrie, try to keep up would you,

don't get ignorant.... fake meat is still made with fruits and veggies that don't have listed in their ingredients chemicals which they may have been in contact with before processing, the same as meat. While I will stick up for a healthy balanced diet, whatever it looks like, flawed logic is flawed logic, and I was merely pointing out a bit of it.

 

[JLM]

folks you gotta eat meat, in my business the vegetarian has as much energy as the kid who jacks off too much, and they both usually dont last

Yeah, but I never heard of any vegetarians going blind...............:lol::lol:

 

[JLM]

Why do vegetarians always try to mimic meat products? IE, tofu dogs, veggie burgers, etc. Let em make their own dishes and come up with their own names for food. lol

Oooooooooh you mean like substitute "sh*t" for "dogs" and "burgers".

 

[mabudon]

Sure, point taken, and I apologize, a whole lot of idiotic bullspew has been posted in this thread by people who clearly don't know anything about what they are talking about, it's like a gallery of Norman Rockwell paintings re-interpreted by a mindless cretin in some spots, and I admit after the treatment I received while trying to actually offer some actual perspective from the point of view of a living, breathing vegetarian, I am kind of out for blood.

This thread is, overall, like a bunch of heterosexual types discussing gay lifestyles, and when a real gay person chimes in, the rest (for the most part) try to tell the gay person the "REAL DEAL" behind being gay.

And as for proof of stamina and energy levels and manliness etc, I am pretty sure I am the only amateur porn performer posting in this thread- I have proof but you don't want to see it and I don't want to post it

 

[JLM]

One of the vegetarians I know does triathlons and marathons as well as a decent amount of weight training. People who don't eat right will have low energy... vegetarianism doesn't necessarily mean poor diet.

That's the operative word. Rather than going through all the hoops and contortions wouldn't it be easier just to eat a hunk of meat or slab of cheese? I'm not sure if this is common knowledge but you can actually starve to death while eating cucumber 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

 

[JLM]

Nope, no living off nachos. Lentils, beans, etc factor heavily into his diet, as well as the 'gross' veggies many don't want to eat, like broccoli, spinach, etc.

Hey, if you can't stomach spinach, just substitute Swiss Chard, just as nutritious and three times as tasty.

 

[karrie]

That's the operative word. Rather than going through all the hoops and contortions wouldn't it be easier just to eat a hunk of meat or slab of cheese? I'm not sure if this is common knowledge but you can actually starve to death while eating cucumber 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

I guess I'd have to ask if your like, dislikes, and dietary requirements, are all a simple matter of what's 'easiest'. I know for my sister, she loathed the taste and feel of red meat. She was a vegetarian for the first 20 years of her life. It wasn't until her children came along that she started liking the taste of red meat, but, some people never will. Does it make sense to do the 'easy' thing and eat something you hate?

 

[karrie]

Hey, if you can't stomach spinach, just substitute Swiss Chard, just as nutritious and three times as tasty.

I grow both. There's a reason I said 'gross', not gross. lol.

 

[JLM]

I guess I'd have to ask if your like, dislikes, and dietary requirements, are all a simple matter of what's 'easiest'. I know for my sister, she loathed the taste and feel of red meat. She was a vegetarian for the first 20 years of her life. It wasn't until her children came along that she started liking the taste of red meat, but, some people never will. Does it make sense to do the 'easy' thing and eat something you hate?

Actually, you'll probably be surprised to hear me say it makes a lot of sense. When I was young there was probably a dozen foods I didn't like, but I was a part of a large family where there wasn't much money and liking or disliking food wasn't an option, after a fairly short period of time you acquire a taste for pretty well everything and actually come to enjoy a lot of things you didn't previously like, so I would say not only does it make sense but you are doing yourself a favour. (I have just a couple of things left to master - tofu and yogart which I haven't even had the nerve to try yet, oooooooh and tongue doesn't really appeal to me either) Everything else is good.

 

[AnnaG]

I would wager that vegetarian pepperoni is at LEAST as "healthy" as actual pepperoni, peculiar provenance aside. And to be fair, "fake meat" products actually have ingredients listed, whereas when you buy beef all's you get is the cut and grade for info, leaving out all the actual chemical ingredients like antibiotics, hormones etc

Yup. Gotta watch those moose, elk, deer, etc. or else they'll raid your local grocery store for the Twinkies and processed cheese. lol

 

[Johnnny]

i like a balanced meal, meat veggies, dairy, grain and water.... I can eat a onion like an apple

 

[AnnaG]

Oooooooooh you mean like substitute "sh*t" for "dogs" and "burgers".

Nooooooo. I will eat a tofu dog if that's all there is to eat, but I won't eat a shyte dog.

 

[AnnaG]

Hey, if you can't stomach spinach, just substitute Swiss Chard, just as nutritious and three times as tasty.

Beet greens are awesome, too.