USA's Unfinished Wars

Cliffy

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Nakusp BC beach, February 23rd, 2003. Protesting the Iraq war.
 

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You seem confused. There is a difference between protecting someone/something and disciplining a rogue perp.
And it was Bin Laden that was taken out in Pakistan, not Obama.
Generally, Obama had a fair amount of support from other nations where Trump seems to do what he can to antagonize them so it is no surprise that everyone was ok with the Bin Laden thing and not ok with the Iranian general thing.
What surprised me was the goofy bugger from Israel applauding the US action. It's bound to have a negative effect upon Israeli peoples.
Sheldon Adelson
"He had thrown $150m into a futile effort to unseat the “socialist” and “anti-Israel” Barack Obama in the 2012 election. His credibility as a political player was not enhanced by his backing of Newt Gingrich for president.
But three years on from the court case, Adelson’s influence has never been greater.
The imprint of the 84-year-old’s political passions is seen in an array of Donald Trump’s more controversial decisions, including violating the Iran nuclear deal, moving the American embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, and appointing the ultra-hawkish John Bolton as national security adviser.
“Adelson’s established himself as an influential figure in American politics with the amount of money that he has contributed,” said Logan Bayroff of the liberal pro-Israel group, J Street. “There’s no doubt that he has very strong, very far-right dangerous positions and that – at very least – those positions are really being heard and thought about at the highest levels of government.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/08/sheldon-adelson-trump-middle-east-policy
 

Cliffy

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In photos: Anti-war protests held across the U.S. and the world










Anti-war protesters rallied across dozens of cities in the United States and the world Saturday against potential conflict with Iran and to condemn the U.S. killing of top Iranian general Qasem Soleimani.
The big picture: Act Now to Stop War and End Racism, an antiwar coalition that helped organize the U.S. events, said on its website over 70 rallies took place in the U.S. Anti-war demonstrations were also held in countries including Germany, the United Kingdom and Canada, per the German news agency DPA.


More: https://www.axios.com/anti-war-protests-iran-action-photos-4dadcf9d-6325-40f0-89e4-3dd6d8490d07.html
 

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The United States' main allies are abandoning Trump over his 'dangerous escalation' with Iran


  • The US's European allies on Friday warned against further escalation with Iran after President Donald Trump ordered the assassination of Iranian Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani.
  • The UK said that further conflict "is in none of our interests."
  • Germany also warned of a "dangerous escalation."
  • The US government decided to go ahead with the airstrike late Thursday without informing its European partners angered some allies, BuzzFeed News reported.
  • "The purpose of having allies is that we can surprise our enemies and not each other," Tom Tugendhat, the chairman of the UK Parliament's Foreign Affairs Committee, told the BBC.
US allies on Friday warned against any further escalation of the conflict with Iran following President Donald Trump's decision to authorize the assassination of Iranian Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani late Thursday.
The airstrike, which was reportedly launched without consulting US allies, led to warnings from several European nations, with only Israel speaking out strongly in favor of Trump's decision.


More: https://www.businessinsider.com/us-...ran-qasem-soleimani-attack-alone-world-2020-1
So . Who cares ?
 

pgs

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as they should. The US could find itself very isolated now.........

In reality it has no friends anymore. Trump saw to that.

Now we just wait for the payback (consequences) from Iran........and Iran has many tentacles ready to act. Iran might show itself to be more civilized than the US has. They can do it at their own schedule .........

I want to see the evidence of the so called imminent threat...........that has been used as an excuse to do this assassination. This conduct is no better than Kim assassinating his family member to fit hos won agenda. It is premeditated MURDER / execution. and that is what it would be called if another nation did this. The US might think it i s the exception.........it is NOT...........in fact it continues to behave badly. So the upshot is that Americans better be afraid and stay afraid.Thanks to their leaders Insane policies and behaviors.
What gives you the right to see highly classified millitary documents of a neighbouring country ?
 

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Why is the world protecting Iran? Obama put the general on the UN terrorist list, and was up to no good when he was taken out. So when Obama was taken out in Pakistan without permission from the Gov. was OK, but this isn't? Trump warned Iran if they were behind any destruction of US property or killing of any US citizens they would retaliate and he followed through. Iran Killed a US citizen then attacked a US embassy in Iraq they crossed the Redline and they paid in a bigly way.
Red lines are meant to be crossed , just ask former Secretary of State Clinton and her boss .
 

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The United States' main allies are abandoning Trump over his 'dangerous escalation' with Iran
  • The US's European allies on Friday warned against further escalation with Iran after President Donald Trump ordered the assassination of Iranian Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani.
  • The UK said that further conflict "is in none of our interests."
  • Germany also warned of a "dangerous escalation."
  • The US government decided to go ahead with the airstrike late Thursday without informing its European partners angered some allies, BuzzFeed News reported.
  • "The purpose of having allies is that we can surprise our enemies and not each other," Tom Tugendhat, the chairman of the UK Parliament's Foreign Affairs Committee, told the BBC.
US allies on Friday warned against any further escalation of the conflict with Iran following President Donald Trump's decision to authorize the assassination of Iranian Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani late Thursday.
The airstrike, which was reportedly launched without consulting US allies, led to warnings from several European nations, with only Israel speaking out strongly in favor of Trump's decision.
More: https://www.businessinsider.com/us-...ran-qasem-soleimani-attack-alone-world-2020-1
The whole bunch of these socialist clowns would rather live on their knees( if they were allowed to live at all) than die on their feet. What Trump has done is sent a strong message to terrorists everywhere that their days are numbered. Freedom and democracy will prevail.
 

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You seem confused. There is a difference between protecting someone/something and disciplining a rogue perp.
And it was Bin Laden that was taken out in Pakistan, not Obama.
Generally, Obama had a fair amount of support from other nations where Trump seems to do what he can to antagonize them so it is no surprise that everyone was ok with the Bin Laden thing and not ok with the Iranian general thing.
What surprised me was the goofy bugger from Israel applauding the US action. It's bound to have a negative effect upon Israeli peoples.
The Americans illegally entered the sovereign state of Pakistan to carry out that mission .
 

pgs

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You seem confused. There is a difference between protecting someone/something and disciplining a rogue perp.
And it was Bin Laden that was taken out in Pakistan, not Obama.
Generally, Obama had a fair amount of support from other nations where Trump seems to do what he can to antagonize them so it is no surprise that everyone was ok with the Bin Laden thing and not ok with the Iranian general thing.
What surprised me was the goofy bugger from Israel applauding the US action. It's bound to have a negative effect upon Israeli peoples.
Well seeing how peaceful and loving Israel’s neighbours are , can it get worse ?
 

Cliffy

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The US military is the biggest terrorist organization in the world.
The military/industrial complex needs war to justify their outrageous budget, nearly 75% of all money spent in the US budget is on the military. They start wars because it is good for business. It is what the CIA does best, start wars all over the planet. The US has military bases in over 100 countries. That is not fighting for freedom, it is Empire building. This war will be the end of that empire and the world will breath a sigh of relief. It will also usher in a new empire which will probably be even worse. Such is the unending cycles of human stupidity.



 

Serryah

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The whole bunch of these socialist clowns would rather live on their knees( if they were allowed to live at all) than die on their feet. What Trump has done is sent a strong message to terrorists everywhere that their days are numbered. Freedom and democracy will prevail.


And 52 sites including culture/heritage sites.


Those damned culture/heritage sites! Their days are numbered!


Only the US idea of Freedom and Democracy matters!
 

NZDoug

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Operation Enduring Occupation
"U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo dismissed the Iraqi Parliament’s vote Sunday that called for U.S. troops to leave their country.
“We are confident that the Iraqi people want the United States to continue to be there to fight the counterterror campaign. And we’ll continue to do all the things we need to do to keep America safe," Pompeo said on “Fox News Sunday.
Pompeo said he did not consider the parliament’s vote to be a final, formal decision by the Iraqi government.
https://www.militarytimes.com/flash...1.06.20&utm_term=Editorial - Early Bird Brief
“We’ll have to take a look at what we do when the Iraqi leadership and government makes a decision,” he said. “But the American people should know we’ll make the right decision.”
Iraq’s Parliament called for the expulsion of U.S. troops from the country Sunday in reaction to the American drone attack that killed a top Iranian general."