US asks China to explain why it needs aircraft carrier

taxslave

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Obviously they want it to protect their coastline against all those illegal immigrants in rusted old freighters trying to get in.
 

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"We would welcome any kind of explanation that China would like to give for needing this kind of equipment," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland told reporters when asked whether the carrier would raise regional tensions.

What makes the US think they deserve any explanation? Does everyone in the world have to justify everything to the US?

Does the US explain every military move to China, and ask for permission?
 

ironsides

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Exactly, the U.S. already has a the reason why China built the carrier. and why does the U.S. have answer questions for what they do. They do not.
 

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I don't see how anyone can conclude it would fly circles around an F22 when the engines haven't even been developed yet.

Plus, it's made in China. I'm not losing any sleep. :)
 

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China didn't build a carrier.

True, it is a refurbished former Soviet carrier. What I would like to know why Pakistan let the Chinese look at out stealth helicopter. Now this should bring up some controversy. I am starting to think we should take them out now while we can.

I don't see how anyone can conclude it would fly circles around an F22 when the engines haven't even been developed yet.

Plus, it's made in China. I'm not losing any sleep. :)

It can't, the F-22 would blow it away.:smile:
 

petros

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F-22s are grounded. Right now they are really expensive paperweights.

F-22s are grounded. Right now they are really expensive paperweights.
Decorated Navy fighter pilot Matthew “Whiz” Buckley, a Top Gun graduate of the Navy who flew 44 combat missions over Iraq, says, “It’s probably leaps and bounds above where we are, and that’s terrifying.”

“As a former Navy fighter pilot, going up against something that’s stealthy, highly maneuverable and with electronic systems more capable than mine -- that’ll keep me up at night,” said Buckley, now chief strategy officer at Fox3 Options LLC.

Buckley said photos posted online of the radar-evading Chengdu J-20 jet fighter lead him to believe the aircraft has great stealth capabilities, based on what appears to be a bumpy exterior possibly housing stealth technology, and the lack of external components, such as a gas tank and missiles.

“It was built to reduce radar signatures. You can tell it has some serious stealth technology,” he said. “My F-18 looks like an 18-wheeler on radar. That thing might not even show up.”



Richard Fisher, a senior fellow on Asian Military Affairs at the International Assessment and Strategy Center, a Washington-based security think tank, says Chinese officials have said that their program is aimed at competing with the F-22.

“From what we can see, I conclude that this aircraft does have great potential to be superior in some respects to the American F-22, and could be decisively superior to the F-35,” said Fisher.

Fisher in particular pointed to the Chengdu J-20’s stealth technology and ability to super cruise, or fly supersonically without using fuel-guzzling afterburners. He said it has super maneuverability due to its thrust-vectored engines that allow for sharp turns.

And while the J-20's engine is still in development, Fisher said it's supposed to deliver 15 to 18 tons of thrust, more powerful than the F-22.

“This fighter will likely start entering service in serious numbers by the end of this decade. The Chinese can accelerate this event by purchasing new Russian engines and settling for a lesser capability,” Fisher said.


Read more: China's New Fighter Jet Could Pose 'Terrifying' Challenge to U.S. Fleet - FoxNews.com
 

Ron in Regina

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This seems to have an engine:

Stealth Race: China test flies Chengdu J-20 'Black Eagle' - YouTube

 

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The Chinese aircraft is made from just about anything that can be scrounged up. It is probably 15 years if even that from production. You cannot cheat and create a fleet of sophisticated aircraft as is suggested.

Now as for the problem with the F-22, it might have been rushed into production. The OBOGGS system has been around for years on many jets; this is just the latest version. Whether it is the true reason for the "grounding" remains to be seen, if we the public are ever told the truth. As my military career taught me numerous times, the best way to hide a secret was in plain sight. Ground the fleet, blame the O2 system (logical cause of Alaska crash), fly the jets anyway, say nothing. It is the perfect cover. Back in the mid 1980's, the F-117 flew along the East German borders numerous times. The Soviet built radar's never responded to the intruder as they would to something like an F-15, -16, etc. This was before the jet was announced to the world. It confirmed that Stealth worked. And it still does; The F-117 that was shot down was targeted by electro-optical means, not some sort of radar mumbo-jumbo that some people want you to believe.


Plus I do not think the F-22 fleet is as grounded as some want us to believe unless President Obama had a hand in it.