UC Berkeley Students Shutdown LGBTQ Speaker

Hoof Hearted

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Could you give me his exact quote and the context in which those words were delivered?
 

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The way to beat a "professional provocateur' like this pinhead, is not to take his rights away, it's to let him stand in an empty hall and speak to himself. Well, maybe Bannon would be in attendance.
 

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Naturally every single person in the thousands that were there was complicit in rioting.


Also, you're an idiot.

That's the way it works today. Pick out the worst behavior of a group and label the entire group with that behavior. The funny thing is that Trumpites get all snifty snifty when of their racist brethren says something stupid and they all get labeled. Titfortat I say.
 

Danbones

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the ol "your team is made up of nazis...you must be one too" thing?
(the nutbars who shut down milos's speech, were out beating women, while screaming for equality for women, and law and order, and free speech, while the cops were ordered to stand down )

works for me
 

Hoof Hearted

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mentalfloss,

The reason I'm asking for Milo's exact quote and the context?

A few days ago you were attacked for laughing at the Nice terror attack. I asked to see your exact quote...it was presented...and I found no substance to it. Left unchallenged, I would've had a very poor opinion of you.
 

Danbones

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that's an excuse for no linky?
and a reason too?

wow
two birds with one stone
 

Hoof Hearted

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Elton John is gay and called Keith Richards "an arthritic monkey". I thought that was hilarious!

Is Milo one of these guys who trashes everyone equally? Because I'm kinda like that too. I referred to Hedy Fry as a cow and Stephane Dion an a$$ in my top ten post yesterday.

I think sometimes when you push boundaries to entertain, you can cross a line and regret it later after sober second thought.
 

Hoof Hearted

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So it's a brown shirt, apologizing for other brown shirts who are accusing the other side of being brown shirts??

Who's on first?!
 

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Rex Murphy: There are fascists on campus. Protesters don’t realize it’s them, not Milo Yiannopoulos

I suggest, as a corollary to Orwell’s prescient observation that (I’m paraphrasing) some things are so stupid that only an intellectual could believe them, that should you seek stupidity in depth and a full lock on all mental development, enroll in a prestige high-fee North American liberal university. Further, I hold that whatever debates may be underway about the targets of Orwell’s dystopian Nineteen Eighty-Four, the modern university is the only institution that has taken that noble work for use as a manual.


For where else are words turned quite upside down, flipped over to stand on their bruised heads and told to dance to the rigorous tunes of fanatics? For it is only on a university campus that simple, basic words are made by violence to take on their exact and opposite meanings: up is down, right is wrong, day is night, and anti-fascism is fascism.


A couple of nights ago the Twitter-banished, Trump supporter, Internet gadfly and author Milo Yiannopoulos was scheduled to give a talk at the (hilariously regarded) home of the Free Speech movement of the 1960s, Berkeley campus in Oceania, sorry, in California. If I were to characterize Yiannopoulos I’d put him down as a right-wing, more sophisticated version of Jon Stewart. He is certainly more clever. There is a relaxed quality to his goading of the politically correct hordes that Stewart’s more determined sneering never really achieved.


Milo doesn’t have a TV show (yet) but he gives talks and is on a campus tour. Naturally when he showed up at Berkeley a riot broke out. A little flavour of the evening may be gleaned from any number of sources: “Protesters armed with bricks and fireworks mounted an assault on the building hosting a speech by … Milo Yiannopoulos.” Another: “Several injuries have been reported and at least four banks have been vandalized after demonstrators marched away from the scene of a violent protest at the cancelled speaking event by … speaker Yiannopoulos.”



And just one more: “As the gathered crowd got more agitated, masked ‘black bloc’ activists began hurling projectiles including bricks, lit fireworks and rocks at the building and police. Some used police barriers as battering rams to attack the doors of the venue, breaching at least one of the doors and entering the venue on the first floor.”


Now what do we call it when people in black uniforms and face masks storm a speaking venue, assault attendees, light fires and throw bricks at police with the express purpose of shutting down a speech? Would “fascist” work for you? In this context, and remembering it is a university campus where this outrage was perpetrated, I think fascist will serve quite nicely. And then we may advance to giving the name of the group that sponsored this giddy fit of intolerance and mayhem. They call themselves “AntiFa” which is the cute way campus blackshirts like to spell anti-fascist these days.



You see thereby what I mean by saying it is only in a university setting that words and descriptions are not only torn from their roots, mauled and variously abused, but put to service in the exact opposite of all their meaning. For those who are little too fond of invoking an analogy with the Weimar Republic in these Trumpian days, it might be worth looking in a reverse direction at Trump’s more fanatic opponents for a more faithful deployment of the comparison. As between the well-coiffed, mild-mannered Yiannopoulos and a mob of black-clad mask-wearing brick-tossing rioters, I’d go with nominating the latter as the fascist crowd.


Righteousness staggers the angry mind. The rioters presented the “argument” that Yiannopoulos’s (aborted) talk was an act of violence, while ever so superciliously they maintained that their acts of violence were free speech. One pureblood nitwit at the event whined that it wasn’t Milo’s talk, per se, that triggered her, but that she feared that in some future class she might unwittingly be sitting next to someone who had attended it. (Does Berkeley have an entrance exam? Does it require baying at the moon?)



More and more those who are, as it were, genetically opposed to the results of the presidential election, make the assumption that the Republican victory handed them a licence to violate all the codes of civil society and the understandings of democratic practice. That because their fellow citizens make a choice they find unpalatable they are thereby released to riot and violence and plaster their actions as heroic and noble. And of course the cringing authorities of the universities, instead of clarion denunciations of such actions, and absolute dissociation from all such charades, dance mildly down some imagined middle. Milo is a “provocateur” or he is “extreme” right wing, or that most feeble of all standbys, claiming the protest was “infiltrated” by “outsiders.”


The moral courage of some universities is at a low low ebb and their long and ancient reputation as havens of thought and intellectual regard is being travestied. There is only one real protest I would really like to see on a university campus these days: one that marched for more rigorous courses and more time in the libraries, reading. Meantime, I expect we’ll see a run on Mussolini bios.


Rex Murphy: There are fascists on campus. Protesters don’t realize it’s them, not Milo Yiannopoulos | National Post
 

Hoof Hearted

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In the age of Twitter, the millennial snowflakes have all grown up not even knowing or understanding what subtlety, nuance, and context is. They just read two short sentences on their IPhone or computer and believe it is gospel.

Perhaps these students don't understand Milo, because understanding takes effort and patience. Their parents have failed them.

A child who is never taught to look both ways before they cross the street is eventually gonna get run over in life.

The Pollsters, the Media, the Democratic Party all got run over this past American election because they could not grasp, understand, or fathom the deeper meanings of the real issues. Trump did, in part because he was raised in a different era.

This doesn't mean Trump will continue to keep getting it right, but imo he's at least earned the right to try..

We're only 2 weeks into this Presidency and the hysterical Left is throwing rocks, setting bonfires and screaming at the top of their collective lungs. Not only do they not understand the issues, they don't understand their own selves.

Perhaps this little post of mine will give them a clue. :)
 

Hoof Hearted

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Who is really more persecuted here, anyways...

ISIS is throwing gays off of buildings, not black stand-up female comedians. But she cried after the comment, so that makes her indignation more legitimate to the Left I suppose.

It wasn't the nicest thing to say and I don't agree with it, but the woman should have a thicker skin. She worked for SNL. Both Milo and her are in the same business of knocking the piss out of everything that moves.