U.S. summer a global warming preview, scientists say

petros

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North American temperate zone


Winter wheat will still only grow in the yellow in spring and summer. It's hours of daylight that triggers it's growth and flowering cycles.
 

Cabbagesandking

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Am I missing something" Winter wheat is in the ground throughout winter which seems to be what Tonington is saying. It requires no great leap to know that winter wheat will be affected by the climate in winter.

One way or another. There may be increased yields: there may also be rot through the increased wetness in some regions.
 

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Wow... winter wheat and brocoli huh. Things are really getting desperate in the other camp.
 

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Am I missing something" Winter wheat is in the ground throughout winter which seems to be what Tonington is saying. It requires no great leap to know that winter wheat will be affected by the climate in winter.

One way or another. There may be increased yields: there may also be rot through the increased wetness in some regions.
Ya,you better wiki winter wheat also so you dont have a major fail like Tonnington did tonight by not researching something hes posting on and has no clue about.
Not the first time he's done this,lost a lot of credibility tonight with this last claim.

Am I missing something" Winter wheat is in the ground throughout winter which seems to be what Tonington is saying. It requires no great leap to know that winter wheat will be affected by the climate in winter.

One way or another. There may be increased yields: there may also be rot through the increased wetness in some regions.


Stick to stuff ya know about,you missed lots.
 

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Come November I'm going to plant some snow peas.

Its funny how when people try so hard to make themselves funny they succeed so admirably, petros and kaka are good at this.

Proven science. The Climate is changing. Well no kidding Sherlock. It always has changed. No amount of money changing hands is going to stop the climate from changing anymore than we can stop platetonics.QUOTE]

Money changing hands affects other things, something you probably understand well. Money changing hands will affect Anthropogenic climate change in a variety of ways. Smart businesses and governments will commit to measures that will save them from having to be the side that is passing out the cash. Other businesses won't.

The Climate is changing, yes, and no deep thinking needed to see that. And it has always changed, again no big difference in opinion. I haven't seen any estimates of those change in history/prehistory, which in any way approach the projections of the abruptness of climate changes that science is now estimating.

So we have climate changing around us, quickly. In the past when climate changed human population was a tiny fraction of what it is now. there was room to move on. Ain't no more room. Now it is going to require major bloodshed to succeed or defend against a move. That is problem number one. Problem number two is that there may not be any place better to move to even if we are willing to spill all those red blood cells.

So let us hope that businesses and governments of whatever stripe opt out for a sustainable population, and aim low in doing it.
 

petros

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There is nothing you can do about a diminishing magnetosphere with a giant hole in it. Slap on some lead based sunscreen and make the best of it.
 

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Wow... winter wheat and brocoli huh. Things are really getting desperate in the other camp.

Desperate? Just informing the ignorant. Maybe you have the same problem as Koko and Durpy, the world doesn't revolve around you. The temperate zone is huge. So when someone says something about winter and it's effects on temperate agriculture, maybe google before you make ignorant sarcastic comments.
 

Kakato

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Desperate? Just informing the ignorant. Maybe you have the same problem as Koko and Durpy, the world doesn't revolve around you. The temperate zone is huge. So when someone says something about winter and it's effects on temperate agriculture, maybe google before you make ignorant sarcastic comments.

Speaking of ignorant,maybe you should google before hitting send.
Your little snafu on winter wheat made my day and even more so watching you trying to backpeddle your way out of that comment.
 
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That is the stupidest idea I ever heard of. Harper was right to get us out of wealth redistribution schemes like that.
For most industries cutting back would require cutting back on production , hence jobs. Meaning your goal is to turn Canada into another third world country with no jobs and lots of poor people. Except of course government employees who we all know are entitled to their entitlements.

Maybe when Canada's economy is in the crapper, we'll qualify as a developing nation in the UN's eyes and can emit to our hearts content.
 

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Arguing with global warming deniers is like fighting the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
We feel the same about the Kool-Aid drinkers.

Speaking of ignorant,maybe you should google before hitting send.
Your little snafu on winter wheat made my day and even more so watching you trying to backpeddle your way out of that comment.
Cabbagefarts has his back so he's OK.
 

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From the following US dept of Agriculture, some information on how adaptation could occur for farmers, if acceptance and understanding of the risks involved with our present climate changes can be grasped. Always a problem of course, but the USDA seems to think it worth pursuing. And they are not a particularly radical organization. :)

Agriculture and Food Supply Impacts & Adaptation | Climate Change | US EPA

"Climate change will likely impact agricultural practices in the United States through more frequent water shortages, extreme weather events, flooding, and shifts in growing seasons."

"Specific adaptation approaches [1] include:

•Diversifying crops to adjust to changing temperature and precipitation patterns
•Adopting water and soil moisture conservation measures that minimize the impact of potential seasonal water shortages
•Changing livestock breeding practices and shifting grazing patterns
•Developing and using disease-resistant crop and livestock species "

•USDA Agricultural Research Services (ARS) is placing climate change impacts high on the list of priorities for upcoming research. Specifically, ARS will be researching how to build better models that simulate crops' responses to changes in weather and water and how to bolster the resilience of agricultural systems.

These things cost money to accomplish, when dealing with a world over the top of peak oil, depleting the long life aquifers, and increasing populations, things could be getting rough sooner.
 

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Ya,you better wiki winter wheat also so you dont have a major fail like Tonnington did tonight by not researching something hes posting on and has no clue about.
Not the first time he's done this,lost a lot of credibility tonight with this last claim.




Stick to stuff ya know about,you missed lots.
You are going to 'explain' what is wrong? Or do you like to be just one of the three blowhards?
 

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I love how when a heat wave hits we get the lecture of it being a preview of global warming (records being broken or tied have stood for 100 years -- imagine that it got this hot 100 years ago) but if we get a cold summer, we are told we can't look at current weather as an indicator of global warming or not.
 

Cabbagesandking

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I love how when a heat wave hits we get the lecture of it being a preview of global warming (records being broken or tied have stood for 100 years -- imagine that it got this hot 100 years ago) but if we get a cold summer, we are told we can't look at current weather as an indicator of global warming or not.

If we ever get a cold summer we will have to see what we "are told."

This 'hot' summer is the sixteenth of the past seventeen that are all the warmest in the record. That is a trend that cannot be denied and the couple of decades prior also produced records - just not every year.


And it is now warmer every year than it has been in the last 125,000 years. That peak will be passed in the next few years and possibly this summer if the El Nino arrives in time to help melt some of the frozen brains of the deniers.
 

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I love how when a heat wave hits we get the lecture of it being a preview of global warming (records being broken or tied have stood for 100 years -- imagine that it got this hot 100 years ago) but if we get a cold summer, we are told we can't look at current weather as an indicator of global warming or not.

This would be a valid point if we have had commentary on an equal number of cold and hot summers.