U.S. nervously watches Canada’s massive refugee plan

Danbones

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It's mainly because it won't cost you a thing in time or money, right Cliffy? The last year the stats are available for shows that in 2014, over the course of the entire year we accepted almost 25,000 refugees. Based on the annual trend, we've accepted close to that many this year not counting the extra 25,000 Trudeau promised as a Christmas gift to Canada. Now, if we cut WAYYYYY back on mass immigration we'd be in a better position to help more refugees. As it is, counting immigration from all sources; legal, illegal and refugees, Canada's annual intake is the highest intake per capita in the world. In fact many experts say it's too high. Doing the math it works out to around 1% of our population every year.
If the citizenry truly are concerned about refugees, then we need to demand an end to mass immigration because the current rates aren't sustainable. And the more non-productive immigrants we can weed out during the application process, the more resources we'll have to help actual refugees.

That's cute. Disingenuous but cute.
 

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Massachusetts, I could understand! Aren't they mainly descendants of the Plymouth Brethren? :) :)


You can understand that Massachusetts is a bible state because you believe the state is mainly descendants from the Puritans?! The Puritan colony of 300 hundred years ago? I seriously don't want to hear another Canadian complain about Yanks not knowing enough about Canada after this.


And the idea that the Puritans were pure is a myth. The Puritans were just like every other people. It is also a myth that the Plymouth Colony was a Christian utopia.





Massachusetts is ultra Liberal and they would out-liberal the most Liberal of Canadians at their most liberal.

Isn't the U.S. just one massive Bible anyway?


huh?


Is MHz using your device?
 

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You can understand that Massachusetts is a bible state because you believe the state is mainly descendants from the Puritans?! The Puritan colony of 300 hundred years ago? I seriously don't want to hear another Canadian complain about Yanks not knowing enough about Canada after this.

Mea culpa.............I should have used the purple ink. :) :)
 

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I doubt the US has anything to fear. The refugees coming to Canada are all ready in settlement camps - not as though we're rounding them up off the streets. They will be or have been vetted there and will also be vetted by Canadian authorities. That was my chief worry and from what I have been hearing the process is well in hand. It won't be easy but Canadians are known for their resilience and kindness and have the ability to pull this off. If would make matters that much easier if we all pulled together..........ah but if wishes were horses..........

From what I have been hearing, and thus my only reason for objecting to the plan, is that the vetting will be skipped in order to speed up the process and make the arbitrary 12/31 deadline.
 

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So how many more of them have been stopped by the vetting process? No process is perfect. All you can do is minimize your risks. Sooner or later somebody will get through. But to skip the process and make it easy for our enemies? Seems kind of ignorant to me.

IDK... stopping the process?

Who said anything about skipping the process?
 

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It is my understanding that they are going to skip the process (in Canada) in order to make the 12/31 deadline. They may vet them once they are here but not before they arrive.

So we are on the same page then.

I had no idea that Canada was skipping the process. Wow. That does not make sense at all and I doubt Air Canada has direct flights to Syria these days.
 

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So we are on the same page then.

I had no idea that Canada was skipping the process. Wow. That does not make sense at all and I doubt Air Canada has direct flights to Syria these days.

Air Canada has offered to help. I am sure it will net them a fair chunk of profit. The planes would be chartered specifically for this purpose.
 

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From what I have been hearing, and thus my only reason for objecting to the plan, is that the vetting will be skipped in order to speed up the process and make the arbitrary 12/31 deadline.

Haven't heard anything about the government circumventing the processes all ready in place for the vetting of refugees. Have read a lot of squawking about the rush but no real evidence that they aren't adhering to due process.
 

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I am talking about return flights as in deportation.

Which is why I am thinking they will skip the vetting process altogether. It would be embarrassing to have to send any back. But even more likely is that they haven't thought this far ahead. They still haven't released to anybody any plan on how they will accomodate 25K refugees and it is already almost the end of November.
 

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As the Mayor of Calgary points out a terrorist will not come through refugee camps.
Here is why, they would have to sweat it out in a tent for a year or two with no where
to go and nothing to do. Terrorists have phones, and live pretty well by their standards.
Refugees have nothing. They also have to take great risks to life and limb in leaky
boats and long walks and the stress of it all.
If they were going to do us harm, they have proved in the past they have passports.
That means they could fly here in 17 hours or less and eat well as it were.

All this fussing over families and especially women and children is hysteria based on
hysteria nothing more. If we are afraid of children we are a sorry lot.
As for down south the Republicans have nothing to offer the American People in the
way of hope and inclusion therefore they resort to utter nonsense. The latest being let
only Christians in, I have never heard of anything so unchristian in my life. Help a
small group and let the rest suffer nice.

I too want to be sure we are letting the right people come here and they are coming from
camps in Jordan etc so they are being screened and I trust the people screening want
their families to be as safe as mine let them do their work people are coming and who
cares what the Excited States Think.
 

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Which is why I am thinking they will skip the vetting process altogether. It would be embarrassing to have to send any back. But even more likely is that they haven't thought this far ahead. They still haven't released to anybody any plan on how they will accomodate 25K refugees and it is already almost the end of November.

Sorry IRBS but now you have gone from 'understanding' the process will be skipped, to 'thinking' it will be..........it's one or the other and a world of different meaning in between.

Look, I could very well be wrong in my belief that all the proper precautions are being taken but until I hear, read or see definitive and unbiased proof that security measures are being ignored, I will remain positive about the outcome.