Two years into the Trudeau 2.0 Minority Term, which day will Justin call the election that only he wants?

Taxslave2

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You'd think the Liberals, seeing as how their only goal in the world is to DESTROY CANADA!, would all wear waxed moustaches. . .
SOme of the women do. The men? have man buns and carry murses. We don't have the same clear division of power that you do. We also do not have an equal or elected senate with any power.
 

petros

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They'll be in the back room plotting their revenge.

Bet they’re trying to create policy to undo much of the damage of the last eight years….not saying everything Trudeau has touched since 2015 is bad, but much of it is…& hopefully that’ll be their (the Conservatives) focus.
Yeah, that's what I said.
How is that revenge? Is Lil Caesar's fighting back against Pizza Pizza for taking their slogan and turning it into a brand name?
 

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Doesn't say much about your taste in friends. I have struggled with this as well.
Are they really your friend when they promote a party that is out to destroy your financial well-being? And that of entire regions of your province?
I don't seek out friendships based on politics. I usually find out their politics after they are on my Facebook feed. I actually have a full representation of all parties among my friends. But the ones I refer to are grasping at staws and more anti-conservative than pro-Liberal.
 

Ron in Regina

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It’s always kind of interesting to get a perception and perspective from the outside looking in (forest for the trees, sort of thing).
So from the highlights (lowlights?) that are interesting and important from the outside, the Iran Tweet thing was worth mentioning, but WE & SNC-Lavalin & Admiral Mark Norman & the non-Aga Kahn ethics scandals aren’t.

I don’t think we’re going to see an election before as late into 2025 as possible, unless Trudeau and figure out a way to time an election call so that it screws with Singh’s pension…or something completely unexpected and unforeseen can briefly make the winds of public perception swing positively (if even briefly) Trudeau’s way.

I just realized that’s “Part 3” in a video series…& I think I just found “Part 1”…
 

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Liberals’ bail reforms will keep more Black, Indigenous people in jail, lawyers warn
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Published Sep 28, 2023 • 1 minute read

OTTAWA — An association representing Black lawyers in Canada says more Black people will be sent to jail if the Liberal government’s bail-reform legislation passes as is.


And Indigenous Bar Association member Christa Big Canoe says it runs the risk of seeing more Indigenous women kept behind bars if a proposed provision around intimidate partner violence is kept in place.


Representatives of the Canadian Association of Black Lawyers and the Indigenous Bar Association are testifying before a Senate committee studying Bill C-48, which seeks to toughen up access to bail for certain repeat, violent offenders.

The legislation would expand reverse-onus provisions to include those who have a previous conviction or even a discharge relating an offence of intimate partner violence.

Big Canoe says Indigenous women who are victims of domestic violence are often charged by police when an officer responds to an incident, and shifting the onus to such women to prove why they should be released before trial carries the potential for harm.

Canadian Association of Black Lawyers member Theresa Donkor says the legislation undermines the Liberal government’s efforts to address racial discrimination and the overrepresentation of Black people behind bars.
 

petros

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Liberals’ bail reforms will keep more Black, Indigenous people in jail, lawyers warn
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Published Sep 28, 2023 • 1 minute read

OTTAWA — An association representing Black lawyers in Canada says more Black people will be sent to jail if the Liberal government’s bail-reform legislation passes as is.


And Indigenous Bar Association member Christa Big Canoe says it runs the risk of seeing more Indigenous women kept behind bars if a proposed provision around intimidate partner violence is kept in place.


Representatives of the Canadian Association of Black Lawyers and the Indigenous Bar Association are testifying before a Senate committee studying Bill C-48, which seeks to toughen up access to bail for certain repeat, violent offenders.

The legislation would expand reverse-onus provisions to include those who have a previous conviction or even a discharge relating an offence of intimate partner violence.

Big Canoe says Indigenous women who are victims of domestic violence are often charged by police when an officer responds to an incident, and shifting the onus to such women to prove why they should be released before trial carries the potential for harm.

Canadian Association of Black Lawyers member Theresa Donkor says the legislation undermines the Liberal government’s efforts to address racial discrimination and the overrepresentation of Black people behind bars.
Would Indigenous and Black lawyers make money from violent repeat offenders if they were locked up and unable to reoffend?
 

Taxslave2

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I'll be your Pirate Party friend.
WE had a pirate party. I even voted for them. Mainly because at an all candidates meeting he was the only one that told the truth. When asked what his party would do if they won the election, he said they would lie, cheat, and steal from us, just like everyone else.
I was also confident the Conservative would win the riding by a wide margin.
 

Taxslave2

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WE had a pirate party. I even voted for them. Mainly because at an all candidates meeting he was the only one that told the truth. When asked what his party would do if they won the election, he said they would lie, cheat, and steal from us, just like everyone else.
I was also confident the Conservative would win the riding by a wide margin.
Liberals’ bail reforms will keep more Black, Indigenous people in jail, lawyers warn
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Published Sep 28, 2023 • 1 minute read

OTTAWA — An association representing Black lawyers in Canada says more Black people will be sent to jail if the Liberal government’s bail-reform legislation passes as is.


And Indigenous Bar Association member Christa Big Canoe says it runs the risk of seeing more Indigenous women kept behind bars if a proposed provision around intimidate partner violence is kept in place.


Representatives of the Canadian Association of Black Lawyers and the Indigenous Bar Association are testifying before a Senate committee studying Bill C-48, which seeks to toughen up access to bail for certain repeat, violent offenders.

The legislation would expand reverse-onus provisions to include those who have a previous conviction or even a discharge relating an offence of intimate partner violence.

Big Canoe says Indigenous women who are victims of domestic violence are often charged by police when an officer responds to an incident, and shifting the onus to such women to prove why they should be released before trial carries the potential for harm.

Canadian Association of Black Lawyers member Theresa Donkor says the legislation undermines the Liberal government’s efforts to address racial discrimination and the overrepresentation of Black people behind bars.
Not sure what the lawyers are saying here. Are they saying their clients commit more crimes than their percentage of the population, or they get caught more often?Maybe a course on covering your tracks for criminals is in order.

I certainly sympathize with women that have to fight their way out of abusive relationships because we know the just us system won't protect them, do they need an excavator operator course so they can hide the evidence? I still believe Lorena Bobbitt should have gotten a medal instead of jail.
 

Ron in Regina

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So…When will the October 2025 Federal Election take place? Good question…BUT the NDP/Liberal Party is confused as to whom is in Government at this point, and who are the actual Opposition….

Speakers at the NDP’s three-day convention in Hamilton mentioned Poilievre so frequently — from quips that he wouldn’t be able to distinguish between the party’s First Nation, Métis, and Inuk MPs to warnings that he is a “fraud,” a “fake,” and “threat to trans children” — he could have been mistaken as the guest of honour.

BUT…Pierre Poilievre isn’t the PM yet, and both Singh & Poilievre are both Opposition Leaders against the current Liberal Government…right? Right?
Abacus Data found the NDP Wing of the Liberal party is losing nearly 10 per cent of its voters to Poilievre.
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“This problem is Number One faced by the NDP,” said John Fagan, a delegate from Willowdale and an NDP member for the past 50 years.
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Singh may not look like most blue-collar workers — with his bespoke three-piece suits and hipster bicycle — but for Fagan the argument the party should be making is that “the working class is ‘One.’
“Irrespective of ethnicity, faith, personal background, etc., we have to get all working-class people to see their commonality of prime interests that’s based on their economic status not their ethnicity or sexuality, etc.”
It’s a compelling argument, too bad we didn’t hear it from the stage. NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh sharpened his attacks on Pierre Poilievre on Wednesday, accusing the Conservative leader of being out of touch with Canadians…as Singh seems to forget that Poilievre hasn’t been elected PM & it’s not October of 2025 yet…
Singh's attacks on Poilievre come as polling shows support for the Conservatives rising at the Liberals' expense. Poilievre marks his first year as Conservative Party leader on Sunday.
 

Ron in Regina

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Here's a crazy-ass suggestion. . . maybe y'all could have it in October of 2025?
Here’s a weird one. Maybe “Captain Divisiveness” is onto something here. I’m pulling data from Stats-Can, and it’s kind of shitty, but on the below map table, red is heating using Natural Gas:
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Outside of BC, or west of Manitoba, hydroelectricity is minimal just because of reality. Below is estimates of Natural Gas usage by Province in Canada.
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By exempting Heating Oil, that’s used in about 40% of households in the Maritime Provinces…& a tiny portion of rural Ontario, and pretty much nonexistent for all intensive purposes, through the rest of the country…this could be the beginning of an East/West divisive liberal ploy, like most pre-elections…and the way to demonize AB & SK in the eyes of Central & Eastern Canada again….Seriously, but only time will tell.

"I cannot accept the federal government giving an affordability break to people in one part of Canada, but not here," Moe (SK Premier) said in a video posted on X, formerly Twitter.

Last week, Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith called on Ottawa to apply the same exemption to natural gas, used by a majority of residents in their provinces for heating.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is standing firm that his government will not make any further exemptions to the carbon tax after announcing a three-year break on heating oil. Last week, Trudeau announced that the government would exempt heating oil from the carbon tax for three years. He said the pause is meant to give Canadians who use oil to heat their homes more time to switch to other sources, such as electric heat pumps.

Heat Pumps, on their own without another method to also heat homes like Natural Gas or Electric (if you happen to have affordable hydroelectric power) don’t work as a stand alone option in a Northern Mid-Continental Climate without large bodies of water to moderate the temperatures. I doubt I’d even be able to insure my home if I only had a Heat Pump for heating it.

Trudeau defended the decision to “only exempt heating oil” on Tuesday, arguing that it is more expensive than gas and propane and is generally used by low-income Canadians….in the Maritimes…& it exempts foreign (Saudi Arabian?) petroleum products but not Canadian ones. Sounds about right.

In addition to the carbon tax exemption, Trudeau also announced Thursday that his government would be topping up a grant program aimed at helping Canadians switch to using heat pumps to heat their homes and away from using fossil fuels.

So far “only” (?) the Atlantic provinces have signed up for the enhanced grant program. On Tuesday, Trudeau challenged Prairie premiers to join in on the program….where heating oil really isn’t a thing…

Can Trudeau spin this into a way to make AB & SK look like Uncaring Hillbilly whatever’s to split the vote East/West again instead of Clued In/Clueless???

The Liberals need another two years to stabilize their Keystone-cops cabinet, plot a new reason for their re-election and hope their Conservative nemesis squanders his huge polling lead with some major gaffes of his own.

Failing that, they desperately hope Justin Trudeau will read all this negative writing on the wall as his political obit — and quit.
 
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Here’s a weird one. Maybe “Captain Divisiveness” is onto something here. I’m pulling data from Stats-Can, and it’s kind of shitty, but on the below map table, red is heating using Natural Gas:
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Outside of BC, or west of Manitoba, hydroelectricity is minimal just because of reality. Below is estimates of Natural Gas usage by Province in Canada.
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By exempting Heating Oil, that’s used in about 40% of households in the Maritime Provinces…& a tiny portion of rural Ontario, and pretty much nonexistent for all intensive purposes, through the rest of the country…this could be the beginning of an East/West divisive liberal ploy, like most pre-elections…and the way to demonize AB & SK in the eyes of Central & Eastern Canada again….Seriously, but only time will tell.

"I cannot accept the federal government giving an affordability break to people in one part of Canada, but not here," Moe (SK Premier) said in a video posted on X, formerly Twitter.

Last week, Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith called on Ottawa to apply the same exemption to natural gas, used by a majority of residents in their provinces for heating.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is standing firm that his government will not make any further exemptions to the carbon tax after announcing a three-year break on heating oil. Last week, Trudeau announced that the government would exempt heating oil from the carbon tax for three years. He said the pause is meant to give Canadians who use oil to heat their homes more time to switch to other sources, such as electric heat pumps.

Heat Pumps, on their own without another method to also heat homes like Natural Gas or Electric (if you happen to have affordable hydroelectric power) don’t work as a stand alone option in a Northern Mid-Continental Climate without large bodies of water to moderate the temperatures. I doubt I’d even be able to insure my home if I only had a Heat Pump for heating it.

Trudeau defended the decision to “only exempt heating oil” on Tuesday, arguing that it is more expensive than gas and propane and is generally used by low-income Canadians….in the Maritimes…& it exempts foreign (Saudi Arabian?) petroleum products but not Canadian ones. Sounds about right.

In addition to the carbon tax exemption, Trudeau also announced Thursday that his government would be topping up a grant program aimed at helping Canadians switch to using heat pumps to heat their homes and away from using fossil fuels.

So far “only” (?) the Atlantic provinces have signed up for the enhanced grant program. On Tuesday, Trudeau challenged Prairie premiers to join in on the program….where heating oil really isn’t a thing…

Can Trudeau spin this into a way to make AB & SK look like Uncaring Hillbilly whatever’s to split the vote East/West again instead of Clued In/Clueless???

The Liberals need another two years to stabilize their Keystone-cops cabinet, plot a new reason for their re-election and hope their Conservative nemesis squanders his huge polling lead with some major gaffes of his own.

Failing that, they desperately hope Justin Trudeau will read all this negative writing on the wall as his political obit — and quit.
Obviously, the worst PM in Canadian history!