Two years into the Trudeau 2.0 Minority Term, which day will Justin call the election that only he wants?

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I just love the way the author uses passive voice. Never says exactly WHO is dispensing these rules, just that he's terribly, terribly oppressed by them!

In other words, nobody is imposing these cruel, harsh limits. It's just righties whining.
 

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That is it. Unless you are under threat of loss of life, liberty, or property, you're just whining.

Like the people who exercise their "freedom of speech," and then pout when somebody else exercises their equal freedom of speech to call them fucktards.
What nonsense.
 

Ron in Regina

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An agreement the Liberals struck to gain the support of the left-leaning New Democrats in parliament means Trudeau’s minority government could last until the fall of 2025, unless Trudeau calls an election earlier.

While many polls show the Conservatives now leading the Liberals nationally, Poilievre so far has failed to make inroads in large cities key to winning control of parliament, and he is attracting fewer young people, especially women, said Kurl.

Conservatives would win 35% of the vote compared to 29% for the Liberals, according to the Angus Reid poll. But in Montreal, the Liberals lead 38% to 15%, and in the suburbs of Toronto the Liberals are ahead 40% to 34%, Angus Reid said.

“There’s a lot of voter fatigue, even among Liberal voters,” said Darrell Bricker, CEO of pollster Ipsos Public Affairs. “But it doesn’t seem like Poilievre is really threatening (Trudeau) yet.”
(The changes to federal electoral district boundaries may take effect at the earliest in 2024. If the next federal election occurs before the new electoral boundaries have been established, it will occur with the current electoral district boundaries, which have been in effect since the 2015 federal election was called on August 4, 2015.)
 

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And he is attracting fewer young people, especially women, said Kurl.
Unfortunately many women vote based on looks.

Pepe needs file down the corners a lttle to be more well rounded. Lighting up big hoagie with a couple CPC MPs sitting by a campfire discussing random thoughts would go a long way.

Puff Puff for PM!
 
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An agreement the Liberals struck to gain the support of the left-leaning New Democrats in parliament means Trudeau’s minority government could last until the fall of 2025, unless Trudeau calls an election earlier.

While many polls show the Conservatives now leading the Liberals nationally, Poilievre so far has failed to make inroads in large cities key to winning control of parliament, and he is attracting fewer young people, especially women, said Kurl.

Conservatives would win 35% of the vote compared to 29% for the Liberals, according to the Angus Reid poll. But in Montreal, the Liberals lead 38% to 15%, and in the suburbs of Toronto the Liberals are ahead 40% to 34%, Angus Reid said.

“There’s a lot of voter fatigue, even among Liberal voters,” said Darrell Bricker, CEO of pollster Ipsos Public Affairs. “But it doesn’t seem like Poilievre is really threatening (Trudeau) yet.”
(The changes to federal electoral district boundaries may take effect at the earliest in 2024. If the next federal election occurs before the new electoral boundaries have been established, it will occur with the current electoral district boundaries, which have been in effect since the 2015 federal election was called on August 4, 2015.)
Is this when they tell the conservatives they have to move to the left to attract city votes ?
 

Ron in Regina

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OK, how about you tell me who is saying you must do this and you can't do that, and what loss of life, liberty, or property is threatened for disobedience?
You’re a hard guy to just agree with. I agreed with you.
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Anywho…
 

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You’re a hard guy to just agree with. I agreed with you.
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Anywho…
Warren Kinsella there is a righty for you .
 

Ron in Regina

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But…what if someone took away one of the favourite empty Liberal threats, like this?:
You know things are going badly for the Trudeau Liberals when they start talking about abortion once again.

In Canadian politics, no one likes talking about abortion quite as much as a Trudeau Liberals.

If you didn’t know better, you would think that Roe v. Wade was overturned by Canada’s Supreme Court, not the American Supreme Court. You would think that premieres were introducing bills to ban or limit abortion rather than American governors.
If you ask me, those fears are wildly overblown — but at the same time, from a pro-choice standpoint like Biron’s, there’s no need to pursue legislation. If she persists in this endeavour, however, it could be bad news for the federal Liberals and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
For Justin Trudeau, the safest place for him to campaign is in telling everyone that he and his party are pro-choice.

This week, Trudeau, members of the Liberal Cabinet and backbench MPs have all been recording videos and making post to social media, reminding voters that they are all in favour of abortion, and that Pierre Poilievre’s Conservatives are trying to ban it. That’s a completely false claim but the Liberals are making it and pointing to a private members bill that has no chance of passing and never mentions abortion or uses the word fetus.
“What I want to consecrate is the principle. I want to hang it on the wall,” Biron told La Presse. “I want us to say that this right is a right in Quebec, we believe in it and we want to protect it.” Justice Minister Simon Jolin-Barrette has offered Biron “a small team of lawyers” to explore the option, La Presse reported, and apparently she made Premier François Legault aware of her intentions before entering politics last year. Biron acknowledged that she was treading on federal jurisdiction; if Ottawa wanted to legislate on the matter itself, she said, that would take precedence.

Examined on its merits, Biron’s rationale is neither novel nor compelling. She was apparently inspired by an assignment in Washington, in her previous life as a Radio-Canada journalist, at the time of the U.S. Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade. Naturally, that decision caused worry among abortion advocates in Canada, and many of Canada’s more doctrinaire pro-lifers were pleased with it.
What bill C-311 proposes is that assaulting a woman while she is pregnant be considered an aggravating factor at sentencing. The criminal code already has several aggravating factors for justices to consider, including if the attack was based on race, gender, under the age of 18, and more than a dozen other factors.

This bill would simply tell judges that if a woman is pregnant, they should consider that fact at sentencing.

This, claim the Trudeau Liberals, is a backdoor attempt to put fetal rights into Canadian law. It’s a ridiculous claim, but as former Trudeau Cabinet Minister Catherine McKenna told us, the Liberal view is that if you say it often enough and loudly, people will believe you.
But the United States is, after all, a different country.
Well, to some people anyway…
And if anything Canadian pro-lifers’ jobs are more difficult now than they were before: Certain U.S. states seem to be competing to enact the cruellest abortion legislation they can, public opinion be damned.

“Since 1988 … there have been 48 attempts by a member of Parliament, via a private member’s bill, to restrict women’s right to abortion,” Biron told La Presse. “Who says the 49th won’t (succeed)?”

No one says that, I suppose … except the leader of every party in the House of Commons. But neither Biron nor anyone on Parliament Hill can make a law that says no MP shall ever in future try to amend the law.
Is there a voting constituency for the Liberals that doesn’t think beating up a pregnant woman is a heinous act? Are we so detached from any sense of moral decency and righteous outrage that pregnant women being attacked doesn’t deserve a special denunciation?

This is how far down the pro-abortion rabbit hole the Liberals have fallen, they’ve gone from being pro-choice to being pro punching women in the gut, or at least not saying it’s a bad thing.
Let’s say Biron’s idea gathers steam. Accepting the sacred obligation to tread extremely lightly around Quebec, where would that leave Trudeau?

He can’t accuse Biron of being a closet anti-abortionist, the way he would a conservative proposing such a measure.
Michelle Rempel Garner is one of the many pro-choice MPs inside the Conservative caucus, but she supports this bill.

“This bill is designed to prevent gender-based violence against women when they are pregnant, that’s it,” Rempel Garner said. “So, for a government that proposed purports to be, you know, against gender-based violence, preventing gender-based violence, to not look at it on its merits, I think it’s really disingenuous.”
Every party in the National Assembly is resolutely pro-choice. And he can’t criticize the idea all that harshly either, since he himself has mooted it. After the Roe v. Wade decision, Trudeau agreed abortion rights were under threat and wondered aloud how they might be strengthened: “Maybe it’s legislation, maybe it’s not legislation,” he said. “Maybe it’s leaving it in the hands of the Canadian Medical Association.”
Beyond showcasing how warped the thinking at Liberal HQ and inside the PMO has become, this move to attack the bill so strongly, and to raise the spectre of abortion once again, tells us something else. The Liberals feel they need to shore up their support that their polling numbers are falling.
At the very least, persistence on Biron’s part would threaten what has been a scandalously successful schtick for Trudeau and Co.: They trot out the spectre of abortion restrictions every four years (or as needed) for partisan purposes, while doing not much of anything in the meantime to address pro-choice concerns over accessibility.
Most polls put Poilievre’s Conservatives ahead of Trudeau’s Liberals, but the interesting part is how the parties are faring with women.
The pointy end of the government’s stick thus far has been clawing back all of $64,850 in health-care funding from New Brunswick, this year, for providing allegedly insufficient access to abortion???
A recent Leger poll has the Liberals with 32% voter support among women, the Conservatives are statistically tied with them at 31% among women. A poll from Abacus Data puts the Conservatives down at 28% with women but the Liberals are just at 32%.

A key part of the Liberal voting coalition is women and right now, the Trudeau Liberals are not doing well in that category. They aren’t even winning with young voters the way they once did.
More people than ever seem to have cottoned on to this grift: The past two election campaigns have featured pushback from abortion-rights advocates quite rightly asking what the Liberals have done for them lately.
In the 2015 election, the Liberals led the Conservatives by several points among women according to several polls. In the 2019 and 2021 elections, which the Liberals barely won, the party still held a four to five point lead among women.

Thus, pulling out the abortion card and playing it as hard as they can.
For the Liberals nowadays, however, it’s full schtick ahead.
Trudeau is failing with women, in particular younger women and he needs to do whatever he can to scare them back into his camp and away from Poilievre’s Conservatives if he wants to hold onto power. That’s what this is all about, power.
 

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You know things are going badly for the Trudeau Liberals when they start talking about abortion once again.

In Canadian politics, no one likes talking about abortion quite as much as a Trudeau Liberals.

If you didn’t know better, you would think that Roe v. Wade was overturned by Canada’s Supreme Court, not the American Supreme Court. You would think that premieres were introducing bills to ban or limit abortion rather than American governors.

For Justin Trudeau, the safest place for him to campaign is in telling everyone that he and his party are pro-choice.

This week, Trudeau, members of the Liberal Cabinet and backbench MPs have all been recording videos and making post to social media, reminding voters that they are all in favour of abortion, and that Pierre Poilievre’s Conservatives are trying to ban it. That’s a completely false claim but the Liberals are making it and pointing to a private members bill that has no chance of passing and never mentions abortion or uses the word fetus.

What bill C-311 proposes is that assaulting a woman while she is pregnant be considered an aggravating factor at sentencing. The criminal code already has several aggravating factors for justices to consider, including if the attack was based on race, gender, under the age of 18, and more than a dozen other factors.

This bill would simply tell judges that if a woman is pregnant, they should consider that fact at sentencing.

This, claim the Trudeau Liberals, is a backdoor attempt to put fetal rights into Canadian law. It’s a ridiculous claim, but as former Trudeau Cabinet Minister Catherine McKenna told us, the Liberal view is that if you say it often enough and loudly, people will believe you.

Well, to some people anyway…

Is there a voting constituency for the Liberals that doesn’t think beating up a pregnant woman is a heinous act? Are we so detached from any sense of moral decency and righteous outrage that pregnant women being attacked doesn’t deserve a special denunciation?

This is how far down the pro-abortion rabbit hole the Liberals have fallen, they’ve gone from being pro-choice to being pro punching women in the gut, or at least not saying it’s a bad thing.

Michelle Rempel Garner is one of the many pro-choice MPs inside the Conservative caucus, but she supports this bill.

“This bill is designed to prevent gender-based violence against women when they are pregnant, that’s it,” Rempel Garner said. “So, for a government that proposed purports to be, you know, against gender-based violence, preventing gender-based violence, to not look at it on its merits, I think it’s really disingenuous.”

Beyond showcasing how warped the thinking at Liberal HQ and inside the PMO has become, this move to attack the bill so strongly, and to raise the spectre of abortion once again, tells us something else. The Liberals feel they need to shore up their support that their polling numbers are falling.

Most polls put Poilievre’s Conservatives ahead of Trudeau’s Liberals, but the interesting part is how the parties are faring with women.

A recent Leger poll has the Liberals with 32% voter support among women, the Conservatives are statistically tied with them at 31% among women. A poll from Abacus Data puts the Conservatives down at 28% with women but the Liberals are just at 32%.

A key part of the Liberal voting coalition is women and right now, the Trudeau Liberals are not doing well in that category. They aren’t even winning with young voters the way they once did.

In the 2015 election, the Liberals led the Conservatives by several points among women according to several polls. In the 2019 and 2021 elections, which the Liberals barely won, the party still held a four to five point lead among women.

Thus, pulling out the abortion card and playing it as hard as they can.

Trudeau is failing with women, in particular younger women and he needs to do whatever he can to scare them back into his camp and away from Poilievre’s Conservatives if he wants to hold onto power. That’s what this is all about, power.
He wants an airport named after him , like his dad . Or something .
 

Ron in Regina

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On Wednesday, Liberal MP Lisa Hepfner stood up in the House of Commons to accuse the Conservatives of being “beholden to the Campaign Life Coalition and other groups that want to bring Republican-style abortion restrictions to this country.”

Bogey-Man to the south! Fire Up the Rhetoric on the Standard Non-Relevant Go-To!!!”

“It is clear Conservatives want to control women’s bodies in Canada,” she argued.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau added that he finds it “frustrating … to see that the Conservative Party, fully supported by (party leader) Pierre Poilievre, is reopening the debate on abortion and going after a woman’s right to choose.”

But the Campaign Life Coalition, a prominent anti-abortion group, has refused to support Poilievre, who they consider to be “pro-abortion” based on his voting record.
Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre – who happens to be an adoptee from a teenage mother – has repeatedly declared himself “pro-choice” and is on record saying that abortion is a “right.” The party’s official policy declaration states “a Conservative Government will not support any legislation to regulate abortion.”

And there’s the simple fact that Canada has not imposed a single curb on abortion ever since it was decriminalized by the Supreme Court in the early 1990s.

But the trigger this time is a supposedly “anti-choice” bill that doesn’t mention abortion or apply to it in any way if passed (which it almost certainly won’t, given the current composition of the House of Commons).