Trump’s Remarks on Charlottesville Violence Are Criticized as Insufficient

[mentalfloss]

Lets go provoke the demonstrators by shouting hateful things at them. Nothing solves hatred better then provocation.

I agree, I don't know why Nazis do that.

 

[gopher]

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/898195696221917185/photo/1

The Lefties want statues taken down that remind them of slavery.

But the Jews did not ask that what was left of Auschwitz to be destroyed, they want it preserved.

Who's right here???

The site at Auschwitz condemns Nazism.
The statues in the South honor the confederate traitors.

BIG difference.

 

[10larry]

No, he did not. Down here we don't leave that kind of decision to generals.

<snip>

The two generals maintained a lasting respect for one another. When President Johnson wanted to arrest and imprison Lee, Grant threatened to resign his commission in the United States army.
My american history lessons were rather superficial plus many moons have passed since so I tried Google and this site if authentic seems to indicate grant did act to keep lee from prosecution.
https://www.pbs.org/wnet/historyofus/web06/features/bio/B08.html

 

[Bar Sinister]

The Lefties want statues taken down that remind them of slavery.

But the Jews did not ask that what was left of Auschwitz to be destroyed, they want it preserved.

Who's right here???

True, but they did not want it kept in working order.

 

[10larry]

I can certainly compare the Nazi executions to the Soviet NKVD executions regarding the Polish people. The Poles could breathe again with the war over period.



No question. Poland has always been in a tough spot with (historically) two massive and aggressive nations on either side. And you're right, they still can't breathe easy.



Part 1... I agree

Part 2... I have no idea.

What I oft heard from poles was folks were happy to get started clearing war debris and rebuilding, ruskies swapped high explosives for bricks n' mortar, the tower in downtown warsaw was a ruskie gift to the city...still in use. A skeleton of a tower that was not finished stands in krakow, perhaps not a utopian environment but imo a vast improvement over hiding from gestapo or frequently running for cover.
Russians were merciless on nazi collaborators and didn't bother much with legal arguments before dispatching them so more than likely some innocents met an unjust end.

This statue thing has cnn possessed, sorta like a hex they simply can't look away from mr. lee, hafta tune elsewhere to see what else is going on in the world.

 

[justlooking]

The Liberal teardrops continue.

Mixed with large amounts of hysteria.
Can you imagine if stuff like this was written about Obama?
The writers would be disappeared.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

<snip>

The two generals maintained a lasting respect for one another. When President Johnson wanted to arrest and imprison Lee, Grant threatened to resign his commission in the United States army.
My american history lessons were rather superficial plus many moons have passed since so I tried Google and this site if authentic seems to indicate grant did act to keep lee from prosecution.
https://www.pbs.org/wnet/historyofus/web06/features/bio/B08.html

That he expressed his opinion, strongly, and threatened to resign, I accept. But the decision was made by Johnson.

 

[Danbones]

You want to get rid of "Hate memorials" every holocaust memorial has got to go.
too bad eh?
I expect the Palestinians probably think the same of the actual state of israel.

I agree, I don't know why Nazis do that.

Yet you do it with every anti trump post eh?

Mr Coup

 

[mentalfloss]

Wow, I really don't even need to try with this thread. :lol:

 

[Danbones]

You couldn't get it "right" if you tried...that's why you support the "Left" behind.
So how are things down at the antifa urine/poop stink bomb factory?

say hi to that jew burner friend of yours soros eh?

 

[mentalfloss]

Here, put this on..

 

[B00Mer]

The statues are not history, if they were I'd say keep them up, nope they were erected during the 1960's during the Civil Rights movement as a form of intimidation towards minority's... in that case I don't see them as relevant to the Civil War or History...

Pull them down

 

[EagleSmack]

The statues are not history, if they were I'd say keep them up, nope they were erected during the 1960's during the Civil Rights movement

No they weren't.

 

[B00Mer]

No they weren't.

Yes they were you friggin idiot..get educated you ignorant grunt

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5995a3a6e4b0d0d2cc84c952

https://www.facebook.com/attn/videos/1475398805828907/

 

[DaSleeper]

Huffington Post, Facebook?
Why not quote "Mother Jones"?

 

[mentalfloss]

Good move by the Democrats

Pelosi wants Confederate statues out of Capitol | TheHill

 

[Vbeacher]

The statues are not history, if they were I'd say keep them up, nope they were erected during the 1960's during the Civil Rights movement as a form of intimidation towards minority's... in that case I don't see them as relevant to the Civil War or History...

Pull them down

The civil war generals and leaders have become bound up into myth and legend and a part of how the south sees itself, a part of its culture and history. I don't think anyone else gets to tell them they should simply abandon that history and move on. The only poll I've seen, taken by NPR (national public radio) shows overwhelmingly that Americans by over two to one, think the statues should remain.

Good move by the Democrats

Pelosi wants Confederate statues out of Capitol | TheHill

She's never been one to miss an opportunity to exploit a sensitive situation for bald faced political gain.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

The civil war generals and leaders have become bound up into myth and legend and a part of how the south sees itself, a part of its culture and history. I don't think anyone else gets to tell them they should simply abandon that history and move on. The only poll I've seen, taken by NPR (national public radio) shows overwhelmingly that Americans by over two to one, think the statues should remain.

Very few of them are on Federal land. It is therefore up to each city, county, and state to decide.

I live in Maryland. A couple of days ago, Baltimore removed four Confederate statues, by order of the city government. Yesterday the state (with a Republican governor) removed the statue of Roger Taney (the author of Dred Scott) from the State House. The talk is that it will be replaced by a statue of Thurgood Marshall.

 

[coldstream]

. Yesterday the state (with a Republican governor) removed the statue of Roger Taney (the author of Dred Scott) from the State House. The talk is that it will be replaced by a statue of Thurgood Marshall.

All i know is Thurgood Marshall was instrumental in imposing the Roe v Wade decision legalizing abortion as a 'human right' in 1973, which has led to a holocaust of the murder of 60 million infants in the years since in America, and by some estimates disproportionately of African American children. But excuse me, he was supporting a feminist plank and therefor worthy of politically correct memorialization.

 

[taxslave]

By Michael A. Cohen
The Boston Globe

Last week, I wrote that every time you think Donald Trump has hit rock bottom, he digs an even deeper hole. This week, Trump reached magma.

On Monday, Trump was dragged kicking and screaming in front of television cameras to condemn the white supremacists and neo-Nazis who marched in Charlottesville, Va. — one of whom drove into a crowd of protesters, killing a young woman. The next day, in a press conference at Trump Tower in New York, he made clear how insincere those comments had been.

Trump said there some “fine people” among a crowd of individuals who made Nazi salutes, chanted the slogan “Jews will not replace us” — we’re good, thanks — and marched in symbolic solidarity with a Southern traitor who shed the blood of actual American patriots in the defense of slavery and white supremacy. “Not all those people were neo-Nazis,” said Trump, “not all those people were white supremacists by any stretch.”

He once again maintained that there is “blame on both sides” for the violence in Charlottesville though in his repeated attacks on the people he called the “alt-left” and in his passionate and lonely defense of the “alt-right,” er, neo-Nazis, it was crystal clear where his real allegiances lie.

In one respect, we should be grateful for the president’s unhinged performance. No longer do we need to deliberate over his true character and beliefs. We can just give up the ghost and acknowledge, as a nation, that the president of the United States is a racist. Period. He doesn’t just sympathize with white supremacists and neo-Nazis, he agrees with them.

What we saw Tuesday was not the sanitized Trump, reading poorly written and platitudinous speeches off the same teleprompters he decried when used by President Obama. Instead, we got the id of Trump. It’s what happens whenever Trump is given the opportunity to speak off the cuff and express his true feelingss. We see the racism, the misogyny, the xenophobia, and the authoritarian leanings. We see the stunning ignorance of basic policy issues. We see the complete indifference to America’s democratic traditions, norms, and values.

We see the extreme and profound narcissism, like the extraordinary moment when Trump praised the mother of Heather Heyer, the young woman killed in Charlottesville, because she said “the nicest things about me.” It was yet another dispiriting reminder that all Trump sees in other people is a reflection of himself. If they praise him or support him — like the neo-Nazis in Charlottesville — they are fine people. If they say things about him that he doesn’t like — like the reporters who seek to hold him accountable for his words and deeds — they’re bad people. Everyone else is just an abstraction. They are people of little import to our president, because their lives and their experiences don’t give him an opportunity for his two most driving motivations: validation or retribution.

Then of course there are the things about Trump that we never see: the kind of moral leadership and basic decency that Americans have come to rightfully expect from their president. We don’t see a leader seeking to unify the nation and guide the American people through a difficult and disturbing moment. Indeed, since Saturday, Trump has at no point made any effort to speak to those citizens who fall outside his base of supporters.

How is an African-American, a Hispanic-American, a Jewish-American, or a gay American supposed to think of their nation and their president right now? Should they feel pride or fear that Trump had positive words for individuals whose primary political goal is to deny them not just their full civil rights, but also their dignity as citizens?

How about the millions upon millions of Americans who proudly and patriotically embrace the powerful founding words of our nation, that all men are created equal? How should they feel about a president who can’t speak out clearly and forcefully against bigotry and racism? Trump has no words for them and seemingly no interest in being their president.

And that really is the crux of the issue: if Trump can’t uphold, defend, and venerate our basic values as a nation, and if he can’t find the will or words to speak to all Americans, regardless of whether they’ve been nice to him, then, quite simply, he can’t be president.

A man who can’t exist beyond his own ego cannot effectively lead this nation.

Put aside for a moment Trump’s unceasing dishonesty, his lack of temperament or qualifications for the job he holds, and his ongoing and unabashed efforts to openly profit from being president, all of which would be reason enough to force him from office. This week we saw perhaps his greatest failing: an absolute and uncorrectable inability to be a leader.

Every day that he remains president is a day that further diminishes our values, our basic decency, and our nation as a whole. The time has come for every American, regardless of their partisan affiliation, to demand that he relinquish his office.


Opinion: Americans must demand Trump

An biased opinion piece by someone that not only wants to rewrite history but is against freedom of speech for anyone not parroting the approved party line.

I actually agree. Except for when we are acting in legitimate defense, needlessly provoking even Nazis solves nothing. Instead, let's befriend them and educate them. I bet many of them are just confused.

All lefty's are confused. Not sure education will help since retardation is genetic.

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/898195696221917185/photo/1








The site at Auschwitz condemns Nazism.
The statues in the South honor the confederate traitors.

BIG difference.

If confederates were traitors then Paul Revere and his ilk are most certainly traitors. Yet you celebrate him. Typical lefty has a list of approved traitors.

All i know is Thurgood Marshall was instrumental in imposing the Roe v Wade decision legalizing abortion as a 'human right' in 1973, which has led to a holocaust of the murder of 60 million infants in the years since in America, and by some estimates disproportionately of African American children. But excuse me, he was supporting a feminist plank and therefor worthy of politically correct memorialization.

Better do some basic biology courses. Abortion is not murder since a fetus is not alive or an infant.