Trudeau 'welcomes' ethics probe of alleged PMO interference in SNC-Lavalin case

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Gee.........I think maybe you better go back and read the news reports you SKIPPED OVER Bones!

So you are saying all this type of crime was occurring during the Harper admin and the previous admins too?
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or it was just invented by the liberals?
 

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But why in that scenario will JWR stay silent ? She is the key and her actions will push this needle . Who knows she might fold and become a Senator or SCJ , but I doubt that ..Interesting times ahead , so close to an election .


No, she is done. She might be offered a seat in the opposition, likely the N.D.P., but they will not keep her.
 

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The Clerk of the Privy Council lost his marbles on national TV today as he let loose with a stream of consciousness diatribe condemning everything from social media to what politicians have to say ending with a hysterical warning of assassinations. No wonder our country is in such a mess if this pathetic old man is an example of who is in charge. About the only thing of interest when he finally got around to actually 'testifying' was that Wilson-Raybould should have and could have told someone - the PMO, the ethics commish or the public - had she felt pressured. According to the G&M today, she did indeed but instead of coming forward what did she do - absolutely nothing. She held fast to her cushy job until The Great Enabler told her to pack her bags and hie herself off to Vets Affairs - poor Vets. There she shat all over that office by letting it be known far and wide how pissed off she was about her demotion.


Don't forget about the conservative in Saskatchewan who ordered a 'Death Race 2019 type hit' on all Liberals between Sask and Ontario. What a bloody drama queen this guy is. To quote Terry Milewski, "For god sake, just answer the question!"
 

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Judge weighs in on SNC-Lavalin scandal
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Judge, lawyer, and advocate Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond joins CPAC's Peter Van Dusen to discuss the SNC-Lavalin affair ahead of testifying at the federal government's justice committee.

Insightful from a judge's point of view.
 

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Canada's top civil servant testified today he is afraid someone is going to get shot in the upcoming election.


Yes- I saw that LIE-beral friendly asshole on the news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What it comes down to - if a cynical tax payer reads between the lines - is that Wernick thinks there will be civil war unless stinking,



greedy, bribery loving, anti white bigoted LIE-berals get their own way in all things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral values are so grossly twisted that they think it is racist bigotry and socially irresponsible to resist the LIE-beral poison!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wernick is simply giving us an updated version of the LIE-beral "I am entitled to my entitlements"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wernick makes it CLEAR that he believes we are being UNFAIR to even ask questions about the Lavalin scandal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Yes- I saw that LIE-beral friendly asshole on the news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What it comes down to - if a cynical tax payer reads between the lines - is that Wernick thinks there will be civil war unless stinking,



greedy, bribery loving, anti white bigoted LIE-berals get their own way in all things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral values are so grossly twisted that they think it is racist bigotry and socially irresponsible to resist the LIE-beral poison!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wernick is simply giving us an updated version of the LIE-beral "I am entitled to my entitlements"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wernick makes it CLEAR that he believes we are being UNFAIR to even ask questions about the Lavalin scandal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The UGLY FACT is that if LIE-berals are allowed to continue their depredations then THERE WILL BE CIVIL WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In what remains of our BANKRUPT CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



We have only to look at the Venezuela mess to see where Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals are driving us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Even better (strictly for security reasons) all the Federal party leaders should dress the same to confuse potential shooters like so:

...so the only clues to their identities would be the contents of their speeches, and maybe a readout displayed on a Jumbotron of a Polygraph whenever a candidate speaks (again, strictly for the confusion factor for security reasons), & the stage should be carpeted along the floor and up the back wall like this but more exagerated to further confuse a potential shooter:
SO get a gun that has more than one bullet and not risk missing any of them.
A long time ago there was a sifi story along those lines. Issac Asimov I think. Anyway the President had to wear a bomb around his neck and anyone could set it off simply by making a phone call to a certain number. Catch was that you then automatically became Prez. Saved on election costs anyway.
 

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Canada's top civil servant testified today he is afraid someone is going to get shot in the upcoming election.




Yes- Privy Council Clerk Wernick- who has sat in on all the cabinet talks on Lavalin and knows where all the bodies are buried -



has suggested we may have violence or even civil war if LIE-berals are not re-elected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This sort of suggests that there IS NOT AS MUCH PUBLIC RESPECT for LIE-beral policies and values as LIE-berals are trying to PRETEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Though I am not familiar with the series mentioned in the article, I agree completely with the author's assessment of Wilson-Raybould's culpability in this government scandal. From blabbing to the G&M after her meeting with cabinet the other day to her nonsensical remarks about telling 'her truth' - not mind you, the truth - she appears to be thoroughly enjoying her time in the spotlight. Her entire performance these past two weeks speaks volume about her true character.
 

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Liberals Shut Down Finance Committee, Butts and Trudeau Served Subpoenas and More!

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The Liberals shut down the finance committee meeting because they won't allow discussion of laws passed in the budget re smc lavalin, and the subpeonas belong on Mo's thread re Mark Norman and his defense.
 

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]We have only to look at the Venezuela mess to see where Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals are driving us!

He has already done the dirty deeds the ELECTED UNDER INTERNATIONAL SCRUTINY government of Venezuela wouldn't do for the elite oil tycoons / bankers that run everything. (Similar to Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Yemen, Iraq, Viet Nam...hell, even Hawaii back in the day...take your pick) The elite currency/oilmen were screwing the country blind before Chavez even.
(all the leaders get along great with the dictatorial Saudis don't they? No democracy there!)

So we are already there with out going THERE.

Please note the in power leaders during all those fiascoes and how they did or did not contribute to those genocidal shindigs. I think you will find those deals are all non partisan.

Both Trump and Trudeau are just puppets on those deals, as were all the other "leaders". He who has the gold calls the tune they say...Does Canada have any gold? No, but certain corporations have mines, rigs and build stuff down there in South America.

Which brings us right back to THIS thread...
 
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The Clerk of the Privy Council lost his marbles on national TV today as he let loose with a stream of consciousness diatribe condemning everything from social media to what politicians have to say ending with a hysterical warning of assassinations. No wonder our country is in such a mess if this pathetic old man is an example of who is in charge. About the only thing of interest when he finally got around to actually 'testifying' was that Wilson-Raybould should have and could have told someone - the PMO, the ethics commish or the public - had she felt pressured. According to the G&M today, she did indeed but instead of coming forward what did she do - absolutely nothing. She held fast to her cushy job until The Great Enabler told her to pack her bags and hie herself off to Vets Affairs - poor Vets. There she shat all over that office by letting it be known far and wide how pissed off she was about her demotion.


Wow...."Just trying to give her context..."...wow..."Cabinet Privilege like Maxwell Smart's Cone Of Silence?"....etc...


This whole situation just reeks of incompetence and deflection. At least this is coming out before Oct 21st 2019.
 

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On SNC-Lavalin affair, Carr says ‘reasonableness’ of Canadians will prevail as concerns simmer

International Trade Diversification Minister Jim Carr isn't saying whether he believes there was any undue pressure by officials on former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould in the SNC-Lavalin affair.

But he told the West Block's Mercedes Stephenson he's taking Prime Minister Justin Trudeau at his word and hopes Canadians' "reasonableness" will prevail.
“Canadians will have to make up their own minds," said Carr, who the Prime Minister's Office put up to answer questions on the matter.
"I take the testimony of the Clerk of the Privy Council, who is the chief non-partisan public servant. I take the prime minister’s word that there was no direction, that it was her decision to make. He said so many times and I believe Canadians will — and you have to believe in the reasonableness of Canadians on this.”
The allegations published in the Globe and Mail on Feb. 7 asserted Wilson-Raybould was pressured by unknown officials in the Prime Minister's Office to intervene in the decision of the director of public prosecutions not to offer an untested legal option called a "remediation agreement" to SNC-Lavalin.
A remediation agreement, created by the Liberals just last year, would have allowed a company to admit wrongdoing, face a fine, and avoid a criminal trial and a potential guilty verdict and a decade-long ban on bidding for lucrative government contracts.
Such a ban could have also had a heavy hit on the Montreal company's bottom line and the thousands of jobs in an election year.
Trudeau initially said the report of pressure being applied was "false" and that he never "directed" her to take any specific decision.
The government line has evolved from that over the past three weeks, with officials later saying there had also been no pressure writ large and that Trudeau had spoken with Wilson-Raybould about the case and told her the decision was "hers alone."
On Friday, he also offered more details on the considerations involved in conversations on the matter.
“One of the fundamental responsibilities of any government is to look for good jobs, to defend jobs and to make sure that our economy is growing in ways that give a real and fair chance to everyone,” Trudeau told reporters when asked about his conversations with Wilson-Raybould.
Michael Wernick, Clerk of the Privy Council, told the House of Commons justice committee last week that he also met with Wilson-Raybould after the decision was made not to offer a remediation agreement, and did so in order to "convey consequences."
He said those "consequences" included the potential loss of Canadian jobs — not threats against her.
When asked whether he believed any inappropriate pressure had been applied, Carr would not say but noted it was Wilson-Raybould who made the ultimate decision not to intervene and order a remediation deal be offered — something the company had lobbied heavily for.
“I believe that she made a decision that was hers to make and it was a decision that everybody is respecting," Carr said, adding that he does not himself know the specifics of why Wilson-Raybould resigned from cabinet, which came almost exactly one month after Trudeau moved her from attorney general to the lower-profile position of Minister of Veterans Affairs.
"It wasn’t clear in the letter but she has reasons and she will give those reasons as she sees fit to do," Carr said.
"She’ll be appearing in front of the justice committee on Tuesday and we will learn in more detail what was in her mind and what motivated her. I think that’s reasonable — the system is working."
Wilson-Raybould is expected to appear before the House of Commons justice committee conducting a limited probe of the SNC-Lavalin affair on Wednesday.
She has neither confirmed nor denied the allegations, saying instead that she believes solicitor-client privilege prevents her from speaking on the matter.
Wernick said he disagrees and that solicitor-client privilege would not apply.
Wilson-Raybould has retained former Supreme Court justice Thomas Cromwell to help her decide what she can and cannot discuss publicly.
It is not yet clear to what extent she will be able to explain unresolved questions before the committee.
 

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The prosecutions began in 2015, and if the Conservatives had got in we might be just where we are now...
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Maybe, or maybe not...The lobbying has been very intense as you can see.
There is a method to track how Govt as a whole has responded to the situation.

The CPP Investment Board. Have they been buying or selling SNC Lavalin?

I'll link up their SEC quarterly reports.
 

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Reviewing a few of those filings shows the CPP Investment Board doesn't see oil and gas ever going away with massive investment into US oil and gas.

SNC Lavalin does a shitload of O&G construction worldwide.

I guess we'll have to invest in other Canadian contractors to build our pension owned O&G projects.

Ones outside of Quebec to level the political bias.
 
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Though I am not familiar with the series mentioned in the article, I agree completely with the author's assessment of Wilson-Raybould's culpability in this government scandal. From blabbing to the G&M after her meeting with cabinet the other day to her nonsensical remarks about telling 'her truth' - not mind you, the truth - she appears to be thoroughly enjoying her time in the spotlight. Her entire performance these past two weeks speaks volume about her true character.




Oh dear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You NEED to get out of your cave more Mowich!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wilson- Raybould appears to be the LIE-beral with the cleanest hands on this Lavalin crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As Privy Council Clerk Michael Wernick admitted - LIE-berals DID remind Raybould of how many jobs and how many votes were on the line in Quebec!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This disgusted tax payer believes that Raybould WAS PRESSURED to make the Lavalin mess GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I suspect she was taken put of Jusyice Minister seat because she WAS NOT making Lavalin go away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I suspect she MIGHT EVEN have been planning to make it MORE PUBLIC in order to ensure SHE was not tainted by the Provincial Charbonneau Inquiry that heard witness testimony about how MULTIPLE Engineering firms were involved in breaking election financing AND BID RIGGING LAWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But ONLY Lavalin was investigated due to limitations put on Charbonneau!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Clearly Reybould did not feel she had enough distance from Lavalin and chose to quit cabinet entirely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As for Gwrald Butts- it seems fair to say he has read the tea leaves and he wants nothing more to do with the LIE-berals who could not get their story straight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Butts FLED the scene before he could be smeared by Lavalin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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In oil and gas the PMO is expected to interfere for the industry.

For some reason SNC Lavelin is an exception.

It must be a white natty thing,
 

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In oil and gas the PMO is expected to interfere for the industry.

For some reason SNC Lavelin is an exception.

It must be a white natty thing,




POOR STUPID HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He does not understand the difference between govt acting as HONEST REFEREE between competing Cdn interests which Our idiot Boy is refusing to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And the alternative- which is DELIBERATELY COVERING UP CRIMES that Lavalin and Our idiot Boy are accused of doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Quebec provincial Charbonneau Inquiry heard direct testimony that MULTIPLE engineering firms were involved in bribery and election funding fraud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yet ONLY Lavalin was investigated- and that investigation was LIMITED in scope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cdns need to ask if the LIE-berals are trying to minimize investigation into Lavalin in order to HIDE some ongoing election funding fraud???????????????????????


We should know if this is the reason why Wilson-Raybould was not willing to whitewash the Lavalin mess????????????????????
 

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Scheer wants PM to testify on SNC affair

OTTAWA - Conservative leader Andrew Scheer says Canadians should be outraged that Liberal politicians made any attempt to influence the outcome of a criminal case.
Scheer is introducing a motion today asking the House of Commons to order Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to appear at the Commons justice committee to explain his role in what he alleges "could very well be obstruction of justice."
Scheer says it is clear now that Quebec engineering giant SNC-Lavalin successfully lobbied the government for the criminal code to be changed to avoid a criminal prosecution.
He says the Liberals then launched a sustained campaign to get the attorney general and the head of public prosecutions to allow SNC-Lavalin to use that new law.
The House justice committee is holding hearings to determine whether the Prime Minister's Office inappropriately pressured former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould — and Conservatives say Trudeau must testify about what happened in his office.
Trudeau denies any improper conduct occurred and that any conversations on the prosecution of SNC-Lavalin were done with Wilson-Raybould knowing the final decision was hers alone.