Trudeau 'welcomes' ethics probe of alleged PMO interference in SNC-Lavalin case
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Unlike an absolute monarchy, in a democratic system like we normally have until recently, there is oversight in parliament with the government. By using this charity he’s doing an end run around parliamentary oversight.... And this one particular charity that he and his wife are affiliated with is the only entity in Canada that can do this (?) & Not the civil service which has been Managing the other billions and billions that he’s been throwing around like Monopoly money??? Does this not have a stink that you can smell from wherever you are?
Hate to break it to you, but he is untouchable.
In 2004 Sheila Fraser's report on Adscam came out which concluded that up to $100 million of the $250 million sponsorship program was awarded to Liberal friendly advertising firms and Crown Corporations for little or no work. This ultimately motivated Canadian voters of all political leanings to kick the Liberal Government to the curb, and resulted in subsequent crushing defeats of the party for a decade.
Fast forward 15 years, and along comes Skippy the blackface banana-stuffer and SNC Lavalin scandal. What is the difference between Adscam and SNC?? Not much, other than an ethical Justice Minister who would have none of the Liberal corruption shenanigans, and ratted the Liberals out before they could follow through on their backroom deal, sacrificing her political career under the Liberal jackboot in the process.
Now fast forward a few months later to the WE scandal...what's the difference between the WE scandal and the others (other than the amount is about 4x what Adscam was?) Not much other than the "Liberal friendly" entities receiving hundreds of millions of taxpayers dollars with no accountability are Trudeau friendly "charities." Somehow, skippy thought this would make it alright, I mean...what kind of heartless person has a problem with charitible organizations (even if they are Liberal donors)...right?
The point is...once a corrupt Liberal Government...always a corrupt Liberal Government. As long as Canadians give them a pass on their filthy corruption, they will be untouchable. Unfortunately, for some reason the Liberal Centre-left supporters in this country who once valued integrity, honesty, and ethical Government, now seems un-phased by deeply corrupt actions of a morally bankrupt and dishonest party. This corruption is propped up and perpetuated by an equally corrupt and partisan media bullhorn. For some reason, Canadians generally have shown a clear preference for fake-virtue over the real thing. They value partisan ideals over honesty and integrity.
If we had a functioning Parliament, I bet you there will be some very interesting questions with respect to this whole WE goat rodeo. Maybe in September if Trudeau & Singh decide that Canada is ready for a democracy again, then some official questions can come out regarding this latest monarchy decree from the door stoop that the WE Brothers could possibly be the only ones that could give away all this money for that five day stretch and then not give it away and others would be capable of giving it away etc....
Maybe Justin can set up Justin Committee To not answer questions And ultimately find himself 150% innocent?
Who decided WE was the only entity that could give this money away? Who was consulted? What other government entities or charities or whatever were considered? What was the process or was there even a process? Was this just a decision made from Justin at home with zero consulting with anybody else, and a phone call to his buddies saying how would you like to handle $900 million plus without anybody being able to say otherwise? God for bid the Canadian public questioned the absolute monarchy in place? By Wednesday it was let them eat cake and by Friday it was whoopsie.... Perhaps others could be capable of administering this program of giving away money like the civil service etc....
Maybe Justin can set up Justin Committee To not answer questions And ultimately find himself 150% innocent?
Who decided WE was the only entity that could give this money away? Who was consulted? What other government entities or charities or whatever were considered? What was the process or was there even a process? Was this just a decision made from Justin at home with zero consulting with anybody else, and a phone call to his buddies saying how would you like to handle $900 million plus without anybody being able to say otherwise? God for bid the Canadian public questioned the absolute monarchy in place? By Wednesday it was let them eat cake and by Friday it was whoopsie.... Perhaps others could be capable of administering this program of giving away money like the civil service etc....
Don't forget the $20 million 'administration fee' paid to that charity for the delivery of this service
Some of the details of this program are sneaking out now. Volunteers would be given between one and five grand, but if you were a teacher and you recruited 75 students you would get 12 grand, and if you were a charity and you utilized a handful of the student you would get 25 grand... so it’s not 20 million to administer this program but about half of the $900 million wouldn’t be going to students but would be going to recruiting I would assume.... it’s a pyramid.
With no oversight from Parliament I can see were a little skim skim and greasing could take place to the tune of a whole Lotta money.
I wish you where more specific with your allegation so I'd know how to respond or if to bother. Without knowing what you're questioning with the accusation I'll just cover both claims above if my Google also isn't broken.
(From: http://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-from-whee-to-woe-why-did-trudeau-ever-think-we-deal-would-fly)
One day you have the prime minister of Canada arguing vehemently that yours is the only organization that can run a $912-million “paid volunteer” fund, that the country’s noble civil service — which is already managing the $169 billion the Emperor of the Cottage has loosed upon the country – can’t.
One day you are offering $12,000 bounties to school teachers who can fish for you at least 75 youth-volunteers. Probably from their own classrooms. The next, the bounty is withdrawn, teachers are in tears, volunteers unrecruited.
(Rural Teachers would have only had to have recruited 55 Students to get paid their $12 Grand. Want a LINK or will you flex your Google?)
(From: http://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-the-we-charity-scandal-is-far-from-over)
It would also be really good to know how or why the Liberals came up with a “volunteer” program built entirely around the idea of paying volunteers. The program intends to offer between $1,000 and $5,000 to the so-called volunteers and, in WE’s implementation, would have offered $12,000 to the teachers who recruit them and $25,000 to the summer camps that host them. Passing out big bucks to everyone who had anything at all to do with it seems to be the essence of this entire scheme. Here’s $900 million: spend half of it to give the other half away. Hell, with that mandate, even I could run it.
Or here: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-we-charity-offers-teachers-12000-each-for-recruiting-at-least-7/
Or Here: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pandemic-student-we-charity-trudeau-1.5633674
Ect....does this cover what I stated above, or is it my opinion that I can envision $900,000,000+ with little to very little over-site (Bypassing Parliament & the Civil Service) being tempting to human nature with some skim skim & greasing of palms potentially taking place? Is my opinion the "just making shit up" & "believing the worst" portion of your statement above? If so I'm not the only one if the Flip-Flop from Trudeau to have claimed a week ago (on Wednesday) that WE was the “only organization” in all of Canada that could administer the program, then turn around and say that it will be handled by others (on Friday).
(From: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-liberals-cancel-900-million-we-charity-contract/)
The federal Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner will investigate Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in connection with the Liberal government’s now-cancelled contract with WE Charity.
News of the ethics investigation, the third into the conduct of Mr. Trudeau since he came to power in 2015, came hours after the Liberals (Meaning Justin from his door stoop) announced that the deal to outsource a $900-million student-volunteer program to WE Charity had been cancelled.
“We can confirm this matter will be proceeding,” a statement from Commissioner Mario Dion’s office said. The NDP and Conservative Party had asked Mr. Dion to investigate the contract.
You questioned what I posted and I supported what I was saying backed up by five different links. If the national post and globe and mail and the CBC are all bullshit with what they are reporting or stating, please back up what you’re stating. Feel free to also provide a link like I did when I was questioned by yourself.
Y'all know that hoidy never attempts to prove anything he says...
He expects everyone to take his word for everything....the narcissistic twit!
It's very interesting, and quite revealing that Brian Lilley's simple questioning and inquiry into their rapid acquisition of real estate holding and assets totaling almost 66 million dollars in a few short years resulted in a response from WE's defamation lawyer. Something stinks for sure, and it's crucial that this is investigated fully and a complete audit be demanded.
LILLEY: Maybe we should have been looking at WE Charity earlier
I went the more pedestrian route and started to look at WE’s finances.
No, not the many other government contracts — ranging from $25,000 to $3 million each — but rather their rather large real estate holdings.
According to WE’s filings to the Canada Revenue Agency, the organization went from total fixed assets of $11.9 million in 2013 to $43.7 million in land and building holdings in Canada alone by the end of August 2019.
That’s a substantial amount of real estate for a group with total revenues last year of $65.8 million. It’s also quite the growth in holdings over seven years.
WE sure makes a lot of cash as a charity... CRA might want to take a look at that
