Trudeau 'welcomes' ethics probe of alleged PMO interference in SNC-Lavalin case

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There is a lot of anger and most of it is directed at Trudeau, not the Liberal party. If the Liberals were smart they would oust him and get a new leader. I have seen a lot of PMs come and go, some were pretty good, some were pretty shady, but Never have I felt such loathing for anyone in Parliament as I do for Trudeau. In my opinion he is the most pathetic excuse for a human being that ever lived. He appears to live in a fantasy world with no connection whatsoever to real life, a little boy playing out his fantasies at our expense. Like his dress-up act in India, it's all fun and games to him, never mind that his actions mocked the Indians and embarrassed Canada. He has spent borrowed Billions to 'help' other countries and spent not a cent in Canada. Lie and deny is all he is capable of. He's GOT To GO!!!!!
so..who should replace him. ??
 

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I guess that the new A.G. follows order better and SNC Lavalin is off the hook, anyway.
Since when dies a crook who accepts a plea deal called 'getting off the hook'? White collar crimes are about huge fines and almost nobody does jail time. The old CEO is already doing time in Sweden, I have to assume it is different than Calgary Remand or Drumheller Max.


No trial means how bribes are a way of life at the World Bank level will remain as under the table as it has always been, who do you think that benefits other than just the World Bank.

Exxon never paid their fine, that is when they were 'off the hook'. SNC was already crashed and burning since 2013.
 

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Quite honestly, watching the horrible damage control attempted by the Trudeau government on SNC Lavalin is like watching somebody trying to do synchronized swimming in a whirlpool at a water treatment plant. The more they try to distance themselves from this, the deeper they get sucked in and the dirtier they look..
 

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so..who should replace him. ??


How 'bout this guy? He looks like Andrew Sheer but is way funnier!! Maybe he's not a Politician, or a Drama Teacher, or a Canadian, but can he do any worse that the guy currently at the reins of Canada?


 

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Jody Wilson-Raybould

What a battle axe. She was utterly ruthless in her vendetta.. a woman scorned..Hell hath no fury blah..blah.

Jody had her hit list and wanted her pound of flesh. She was for chopping people right and left irregardless of the effects to careers and families. She viewed herself as someone beyond oversight, supervision, advisement.. responsible only to her own conscience. She surmised no one could infringe on her own sacred, indigenous, turf.

Wilson-Raybould was utterly indifferent to holding the fate of thousands of Lavalin employees hostage for the allegedly criminal acts of its executives. She was motivated by her own conceit of being the final and only arbiter of an abstract, juridical, ideal unmoderated by its concrete, practical, cosequences. She’s was an incompetent Minister of Justice. As Attrorney-General she was a strutting egoist who viewed herself a sollitary judicial sorcerer rather than a subordinate counsel to government agency.

Good riddance to her. Wilson-Raybould was just completely full of herself and had no understanding or empathy with those who would have been harmed by her advocacy. And the same to Justin for facilitating this femi-nazi, amazon clique that controls the Liberal government. And for capitulating to all of her ransom demands, including firing his chief advisor, Gerald Butts, and, forcing the retirement of the Clerk of the PrivyCouncil, Michael Wernick.

He finally sacked her, when it became clear there was going to be no end to her blackmail, including a humiliating apology and directing the new AG not to defer the prosecution of the Lavalin (subsequently denied but all the evidence is that’s exactly what she demanded). She’s, of course, covered herself in self-righteousness, self pity, and victimization.

Well now Jody’s political career is finished. What goes around, comes around. It’s one of the few times Justin has managed to crawl out the naive, debauched, political fantasy world that he inhabits but he did it in a typical hissy fit consistent with his character and after most the damage to his reputation and government had already been inflicted.
 
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There is a lot of anger and most of it is directed at Trudeau, not the Liberal party. If the Liberals were smart they would oust him and get a new leader. I have seen a lot of PMs come and go, some were pretty good, some were pretty shady, but Never have I felt such loathing for anyone in Parliament as I do for Trudeau. In my opinion he is the most pathetic excuse for a human being that ever lived. He appears to live in a fantasy world with no connection whatsoever to real life, a little boy playing out his fantasies at our expense. Like his dress-up act in India, it's all fun and games to him, never mind that his actions mocked the Indians and embarrassed Canada. He has spent borrowed Billions to 'help' other countries and spent not a cent in Canada. Lie and deny is all he is capable of. He's GOT To GO!!!!!




The little detail you are MISSING is that Our idiot Boy Justin is just one man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It took the support AND BELIEF in current LIE-beral values of the ENTIRE LIE-beral party to create the idiot Boy and put him in the FIGUREHEAD SEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Because that is all he is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He can use party discipline to punish one or two with the approval of the majority ..................................



but he is helpless before a majority if they turn on him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As you note -the party could depose him in 5 minutes if they felt like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The party follows the idiot Boy because they BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Therefore it MUST BE THE ENTIRE PARTY that is ripped up and trashed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Here is an article illustrating what a wretched mockery is being made of our legal system by thugs and the LIE-berals sucking up to them in exchange for votes! With some comments of my own in brackets):

‘No, I’m the killer’: A witness testified he was the real murderer. The Toronto jury still convicted the defendant

By Betsy Powell - Courts Reporter, Toronto Star.

Published March 20. 2019

Kevin Nicholas Gidden, 23, was the victim of a fatal shooting in Scarborough on Oct. 27, 2016.

Even courtroom veterans were stunned when the witness calmly confessed to opening fire on two men — killing one of them — stopped at a red light in Toronto’s east end.

“I took a gun ... out of my left pocket ... and I took aim and shot four times,” Walid Zakaria testified in Superior Court in January.

Listening to his boyhood friend was Simeon Harty, 25, the man actually on trial for the first-degree murder of Kevin Gidden and attempted murder of Kemar McFarlane around 1 a.m. on Oct. 27, 2016.

The prosecution alleged Harty was driving a car that followed McFarlane after leaving a gas station, pulled his vehicle up on the passenger side of McFarlane’s car and opened fire, killing Gidden, 23. McFarlane drove away, uninjured. Jurors heard no evidence of motive nor that Harty knew the men, just that he had been inside the gas station store at the same time as McFarlane.

But Zakaria, 25, told the jury that police and prosecutors had fingered the wrong man.

“I’m the killer, I’m the one ... not Harty, me,” the deep-voiced man said at one point, claiming he started shooting in self defence because he saw a gun in the hand of one of the other car’s occupants.

“What kind of gun,” Crown attorney Craig Coughlan asked during cross examination.

“I’m not a gun master, I’m not sure,” he replied, before later offering that it might have been a .40 calibre Glock.

Simeon Harty, 25, was convicted of second-degree murder in the death of Kevin Gidden and discharge a firearm with intent despite a witness’s testimony that he was the real murderer, not Harty.

Sounding incredulous, the prosecutor asked Zakaria if he had given Harty any warning before he allegedly started blasting.

“You fired over top of your friend’s head four times ... into this vehicle based on seeing what you thought was a gun?”

Zakaria muttered “yeah” in response. Coughlan put it to Zakaria that he was making up the whole story, who responded: “Then I guess I was carrying an imaginary gun.”

Zakaria also seemed eager to let jurors know he was no novice of the criminal justice system, boasting about his money-making prowess selling drugs in the penitentiary, and sporting a tattoo on his chest that reads “I have no attachment to anything,” and another on his hand, reading “Bang bang.”

Before the defence called Zakaria as a witness, Harty also implicated his friend when he testified in his own defence.

After pulling up to the intersection, Harty said he was manually rolling down his driver’s side window when “I see a flash ... it came from inside my car.”

“Did you hear anything?,” asked his lawyer, Craig Bottomley.

“Yes I heard bang, bang, bang.”

“Who had the gun?”

“Walid had the gun.”

The jury rejected the pair’s evidence and convicted Harty of the reduced charge of second-degree murder and discharge a firearm with intent. His sentencing hearing is Friday.

Bottomley declined to make any comment.

Gary Giroux said this was the first time in his 22 years on the Toronto police homicide squad he has seen someone come into court, admit they’re responsible and say “you’ve got the wrong guy.”

Also, in theory, if the jury had acquitted Harty, Giroux said he could have charged Zakaria with the murder and brought Harty in as a witness.

“But I wouldn’t, because I don’t believe it to be true,” the now-retired Giroux said this week.

Prominent defence lawyer Greg Lafontaine, who wasn’t involved in the case, said someone who confesses to a crime while giving sworn testimony could be charged, “but the evidence he gave won’t be admissible against him and likely nothing derivative of it will be admissible against him.

(In other words these two trigger happy criminal swine are trying a neat little legal dodge in which the first guy gets off because the second clown “confessed”! And then the second clown cannot be convicted because his testimony from the first trial IS NOT ADMISSIBLE at the second trial!!!!!!!!!!!!)

“Therefore, the police would have to build a case completely independent of the person’s testimony.”

Before Zakaris began answering questions, he told court he had sought legal advice and that he was protected from self-incrimination under the Canada Evidence Act.

(The job of a defense lawyer is to provide an honest defense of an accused but playing these kinds of VILE WORD GAMES is not HONEST! The lawyer that advised the second clown of this possible legal dodge ought to be facing charges for councilling his client to commit PERJURY!!!!!!!!!!!!)

He is currently serving an 18-month jail sentence for contempt of court after refusing to testify at Harty’s preliminary hearing last year.

(OH! How about that- THERE IS a little justice meted out from time to time!!! A contempt of court charge looks good on the clown!! Offering up such a STUPID story DESERVES a contempt of court charge since it clearly insults the intelligence of both judge and jury!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

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Jody Wilson-Raybould

What a battle axe. She was utterly ruthless in her vendetta.. a woman scorned..Hell hath no fury blah..blah.

Jody had her hit list and wanted her pound of flesh. She was for chopping people right and left irregardless of the effects to careers and families. She viewed herself as someone beyond oversight, supervision, advisement.. responsible only to her own conscience. She surmised no one could infringe on her own sacred, indigenous, turf.....

I wonder how much of this is really real, and how much of this is Liberal Party anonymous leaks straight out'a the PMO's realm to further slander from the Justinite's core anyone perceived as an enemy of the PM whether they had his best interests at heart or not??? After the last several months I question everything coming out of that greasy den of vipers and their sunny ways.

Maybe the Ethics Commissioner (after he returns after his lengthy and indeterminate leave of absence until sometime after October of 2019 I'm assuming) that Trudeau 'welcomes' a good ol'probing from can look into this?
 

Ron in Regina

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Here's the Honorable PM Justin Trudeau flexing his ethics:
This is just one example of why I question everything coming from PMO & the surrounding Justinites.
 

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I wonder how much of this is really real, and how much of this is Liberal Party anonymous leaks straight out'a the PMO's realm to further slander from the Justinite's core anyone perceived as an enemy of the PM whether they had his best interests at heart or not??? After the last several months I question everything coming out of that greasy den of vipers and their sunny ways.

Maybe the Ethics Commissioner (after he returns after his lengthy and indeterminate leave of absence until sometime after October of 2019 I'm assuming) that Trudeau 'welcomes' a good ol'probing from can look into this?
I wonder where his personal Challenger took him today .p?
 

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I wonder how much of this is really real, and how much of this is Liberal Party anonymous leaks straight out'a the PMO's realm to further slander from the Justinite's core anyone perceived as an enemy of the PM whether they had his best interests at heart or not??? After the last several months I question everything coming out of that greasy den of vipers and their sunny ways.

Maybe the Ethics Commissioner (after he returns after his lengthy and indeterminate leave of absence until sometime after October of 2019 I'm assuming) that Trudeau 'welcomes' a good ol'probing from can look into this?

I found this piece to be very interesting and illuminating, Ron. Not that I disagree with your assessment of the little potato and the party, but it never hurts to read a different point of view to get a real perspective on what's happening.

nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad-black-what-people-are-getting-wrong-about-this-entire-silly-affair
 

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Well...An RCMP investigation where everything was made to be out in the open might be a good place to start...
;)
as often gets said about political things, it's not the act, but the cover up.
 

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Here's the Honorable PM Justin Trudeau flexing his ethics:
This is just one example of why I question everything coming from PMO & the surrounding Justinites.


Here are two realities: He's too arrogant to quit, even if his government nosedives in the next election.
His party is just as, or quite possibly, more venomous than the previous government.

The leaks are little giblets of truth wrapped in huge lies to try and claw back some of their dignity and deflect the damage against an Attorney General who stood her ground for rule of law. These assholes in the PMO, including Justine Trudeau, badgered this woman for their own political wants. When she would not bend they booted her out of her job and when the story broke the prime minister acted surprised, meanwhile the idiot Wernick was caught lying on tape. And Butts and Trudeau can cry foul about the secret taping, but they gave her no choice. Because prior to the tape which was withheld until long after Justine's disciples sharpened their smiles and their knives and began an all out character assassination of Jody Wilson Raybould.
They can leak til the cows come home. It won't work.The damage is done, arrogance is this governments undoing and entitlement is it's leaders vice. This has to be the first government in Canada that became obtusely arrogant in the dawn of its first term. That kind of arrogance usually comes after two terms.
The public cannot become amnesiac on this. These crooks need to go.
Change will be good.
 

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Here are two realities: He's too arrogant to quit, even if his government nosedives in the next election.
His party is just as, or quite possibly, more venomous than the previous government.

The leaks are little giblets of truth wrapped in huge lies to try and claw back some of their dignity and deflect the damage against an Attorney General who stood her ground for rule of law. These assholes in the PMO, including Justine Trudeau, badgered this woman for their own political wants. When she would not bend they booted her out of her job and when the story broke the prime minister acted surprised, meanwhile the idiot Wernick was caught lying on tape. And Butts and Trudeau can cry foul about the secret taping, but they gave her no choice. Because prior to the tape which was withheld until long after Justine's disciples sharpened their smiles and their knives and began an all out character assassination of Jody Wilson Raybould.
They can leak til the cows come home. It won't work.The damage is done, arrogance is this governments undoing and entitlement is it's leaders vice. This has to be the first government in Canada that became obtusely arrogant in the dawn of its first term. That kind of arrogance usually comes after two terms.
The public cannot become amnesiac on this. These crooks need to go.
Change will be good.


Yep and possibly the saddest of part of all is Chrystia Freeland (who I thought was bright, sensible and solid) She's missing at least one of those!