Oh? You don't have any mirrors in your house?
Have you had that experience?
Every day with you.
Cliffy marches to a different drummer.............I'd guess more of a scrounger than a freeloader.
Nope, I'd say freeloader sums it up quite nicely.
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Oh? You don't have any mirrors in your house?
Every day with you.
Nope, I'd say freeloader sums it up quite nicely.
On a very small scale of family and friends....no larger than a small village, where each individual is well known to every other individual, and where each person knows the contribution (or lack thereof) of everyone else, and each person has reason to care what the others think of him.....in that limited scenario collectivism can work.
Otherwise "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" means "From each as little as they can get away with, to each as much as they can con out of you" Or, as they used to say in the old USSR: "We'll pretend to work, you pretend to pay us".
If you are a Marxist, then you are lacking education.....even the Marxists aren't Marxist any more...because IT DOESN"T WORK.
One hundred million dead should make that point.
Oh, and how do the Marxist nations try to lift their people out of staggering poverty?
They adopt the free market.
Russia, especially China, and now even Cuba......yet you (hilariously) accuse the free marketers of lacking knowledge and education.
sigh
Absolutely that is a problem. A serious problem. But collectivizing the means of production only means LESS production, and you can't raise anyone out of poverty on less. What's the solution? I am not sure, but I also am not willing to see another 100 million die while the High Priests of Marxism try once again to create heaven on earth......
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery".
Winston Churchill
History has proven Winston correct
Not at all. The fight against Batista was an honourable one. He was wrong in thinking the cure for the oppression of Batista was the oppression of Marxism. Fighting the disease of Batista was a good thing, but the medicine he choose killed the patient.
The fight in Angola was a failure.....a failure Che blamed entirely on the inferiority of the Angolans.
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Communists haven't been any more brutal to their opponents than capitalists.
Wow.
Ever hear of Cambodia??
Or Mao Tse-tung??
You REALLY need to get an education.
How very judgmental of you. You don't have a clue who I am or what I do. But it is very Christian of you.
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How very judgmental of you. You don't have a clue who I am or what I do. But it is very Christian of you.
Actually, You are the "sheep", but that's ok. Everyone needs an identity, and if you need to "borrow" someone elses, you go right ahead.
Geez, Ger, I just can't get enough of your debonair ways. Perhaps you could give me some pointers so I can be polished like you! Let me guess, you are a graduate of the Glee Club!
no, Marxism is simply having the worker being treated fairly and not being exploited by a parasitic fat cat
.you do not understand Marxism or socialism . which means most of your post now is trash and to be neglected.
what the hell is wrong with you
retard, the people you see in the third world poverty, that's the by-product of capitalism. the poverty you see all over the world is the by product of capitalism . there's never been anything more horrible and destructive than capitalism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-communist_mass_killings
**** off you worthless gimp.
wasting my time arguing with you inferior brains.
Yeah sure... How many times you fallen for that line 'the cheque's in the mail '... Maybe a few episode's of 'I promise not to *** in your mouth '
There is not one single large-scale example of Marxism/Socialism that has worked in the Utopic fashion to which you've been indoctrinated.
Hilarious!!
II actually have an education.
Marxism is control of the means of production by the proletariat...."From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is the very foundation of the philosophy.........it is a quote from Karl Marx himself.
Are you now going to tell Karl Marx what Marxism is??? LOL
LOL.
Hilarious!! You should take that show on the road??
So......there was no poverty, according to you, before capitalism. (snicker)
As for your anti-communist killings:
China: 1.4 million killed by the Chaing Kai-Shek gov't
Between 50 and 70 million killed by the communists.
Etc etc etc.
You're one fish that hasn't got a clue how wet he is .....Gawd you're beyond stoopid.....
Well don't forget, this is the same guy who thought calling someone 'retarded' was a sign of his superior intellect. :roll:
Where do these angry, angry little people come from and can we put up an electric fence to keep them out? These are the things I want to know!
Gore0bsessed,
Though I admire aspects of socialism, I also admire aspects of capitalism. They each have their strengths in their own domains. I'll take education and media funding as just two of many concrete examples.
Starting with public education, though I agree with the principle of universal compulsory education for all, I also support school choice. In fact, the Saami and Finns and other minorities in Sweden had been in the vanguard in promoting school vouchers as an extension of language rights. With school vouchers, though students must still learn Swedish, at least schools are now free to teach in the language of their choice to the degree the market allows. That was not possible before, with Swedish-medium schools holding a monopoly.
In the Ojibwe class I am now attending on Sundays, a young father lamented that in Ottawa there are only two school choices:English and French even though he works and pays his taxes too just like the English and the French.
As for an example with media, some of my classmates were saying how it was unfair that their taxes should subsidize English and French media but not Ojibwe. If we had media vouchers as Conservative MP Scott Reid had recommended in his Lament for a Notion, then we could use those vouchers to subscribe to media in the language of our choice.
We can see this with statutory holidays too. Why the holidays of one religion but not another? poland solved this, at least to a degree, by reducing statutory holidays to a minimum and then expanding the number of paid days off a worker could take in a year so as to let them choose.
So for all of the strengths of socialism, perhaps one of the greatest among its flaws is the imposition of ethnic assimilation. One need not look far to see this. In Canada, nearly all government institutions are Anglo-French, but just look at the diversity in the private sector, whether it's a private sector Ojibwe course or bilingual Chinese-English services in many private companies (in fact I enjoy practicing my Chinese at Chose restaurants for example) or NGO's that provide sign-language interpretation, etc. If I got to choose, the Constitution would give fewer language-rights to English and French and more to a sign-language and the local indigenous language or at least reduce English and French language rights so as to to them on a somewhat equal footing.
So yes, socialism has its strengths, but so does capitalism.
Though I admire aspects of socialism, I also admire aspects of capitalism. They each have their strengths in their own domains. I'll take education and media funding as just two of many concrete examples.
Starting with public education, though I agree with the principle of universal compulsory education for all, I also support school choice. In fact, the Saami and Finns and other minorities in Sweden had been in the vanguard in promoting school vouchers as an extension of language rights. With school vouchers, though students must still learn Swedish, at least schools are now free to teach in the language of their choice to the degree the market allows. That was not possible before, with Swedish-medium schools holding a monopoly.
In the Ojibwe class I am now attending on Sundays, a young father lamented that in Ottawa there are only two school choices:English and French even though he works and pays his taxes too just like the English and the French.
As for an example with media, some of my classmates were saying how it was unfair that their taxes should subsidize English and French media but not Ojibwe. If we had media vouchers as Conservative MP Scott Reid had recommended in his Lament for a Notion, then we could use those vouchers to subscribe to media in the language of our choice.
We can see this with statutory holidays too. Why the holidays of one religion but not another? poland solved this, at least to a degree, by reducing statutory holidays to a minimum and then expanding the number of paid days off a worker could take in a year so as to let them choose.
So for all of the strengths of socialism, perhaps one of the greatest among its flaws is the imposition of ethnic assimilation. One need not look far to see this. In Canada, nearly all government institutions are Anglo-French, but just look at the diversity in the private sector, whether it's a private sector Ojibwe course or bilingual Chinese-English services in many private companies (in fact I enjoy practicing my Chinese at Chose restaurants for example) or NGO's that provide sign-language interpretation, etc. If I got to choose, the Constitution would give fewer language-rights to English and French and more to a sign-language and the local indigenous language or at least reduce English and French language rights so as to to them on a somewhat equal footing.
So yes, socialism has its strengths, but so does capitalism.
You're right, there a lot of folks here that sling mud back and forth. Some are even real out and out rivalries. But there is a degree of bitter, bitter anger with this guy. It's different. No matter how bad some of the other mud slinging arguments get around here, he is really the only one I get a true sense of hatred from.