Trudeau Treats Protesters Very Differently Than Harper. He Talks To Them (VIDEO)

JLM

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 27, 2008
75,301
548
113
Vernon, B.C.
No, my stance is with the Indians who are leading the movement that is trying to stop the destruction of the Earth world wide. Capitalism is the biggest threat to life on Earth. We have to mver toward a sustainable future or there will be no future. Capitalism is a dead end road.


So what form of Gov't would you have in its place?
 

Machjo

Hall of Fame Member
Oct 19, 2004
17,878
61
48
Ottawa, ON
You're a disgusting ****ing idiot!!! You supporting capitalism! Are you even rich? Capitalism only benefits the rich, period. Actually capitalism is basically socialism only for the rich...

WHAT THE **** DID I JUST TELL YOU ABOUT CHE SUPPORTING ANGOLAN INDEPENDENCE DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU RECOMMEND A BOOK THAT DOESN'T SUPPORT YOUR OPINIONS ????... HAVE U EVEN READ IT? I OWN IT.

HOW ARE YOU ACCUSING CHE FOR BEING RACIST , WHEN YOU YOURSELF SUPPORT A RACIST IDEOLOGY?? YOU'RE RACIST TO THE CORE!!! YOU'RE A HYPOCRITE...

AS FAR AS THOSE QUOTES GO

Did Ché Guevara write 'extensively' about the superiority of white Europeans? Rubio says yes | PolitiFact Florida

I SUGGEST YOU READ IT IN ITS ENTIRELY, IT'S GOOD TO RID YOURSELF OF IGNORANCE.

Get out of here Taxlsave, you're a neanderthal, about as dumb as they come. No hope for you i'm afraid.

I hope you have a napkin at hand to wipe the drool with.

You are hysterical.....aren't you? calm down before you blow a gasket......

Too late :lol:

I'm just just worried about the poor guy's blood pressure.
 

Cliffy

Standing Member
Nov 19, 2008
44,850
193
63
Nakusp, BC
So what form of Gov't would you have in its place?
Ummm.... Capitalism isn't a form of government. Capitalism is a cancer that feeds on greed and mindless consumption. Capitalism has enslaved humanity with dept: we are all indentured slaves and those in charge, those who own our governments, are psychopaths that don't care whether you live or die, they just want obedient workers and consumers. 90% of what we consume, we don't need. The ego wants more and more and more, without consideration for future generations. This insanity has to end soon or we face the consequences.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

The End of the Dog is Coming!
Mar 19, 2006
12,609
1,507
113
61
Alberta
BTW Cliffy your computer is made out of petroleum products. And it was probably shipped from China on a container ship that runs on diesel. That electricity powering your PC doesn't come from the farts of anarchists, it is likely powered by the oil industry in one form or another.
 

JLM

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 27, 2008
75,301
548
113
Vernon, B.C.
Ummm.... Capitalism isn't a form of government. Capitalism is a cancer that feeds on greed and mindless consumption. Capitalism has enslaved humanity with dept: we are all indentured slaves and those in charge, those who own our governments, are psychopaths that don't care whether you live or die, they just want obedient workers and consumers. 90% of what we consume, we don't need. The ego wants more and more and more, without consideration for future generations. This insanity has to end soon or we face the consequences.


I agree with a lot of what you say, Cliffy. A line should definitely be drawn, but who's to draw it and how's it to be enforced? I think there has to be some sort of system of merit, so that those who work the hardest/smartest and produce the most get to reap a commensurate share of the rewards. It doesn't really matter what you do, there are always going to be "winners" and "losers"...........that's just human nature.
 

Cliffy

Standing Member
Nov 19, 2008
44,850
193
63
Nakusp, BC
I agree with a lot of what you say, Cliffy. A line should definitely be drawn, but who's to draw it and how's it to be enforced? I think there has to be some sort of system of merit, so that those who work the hardest/smartest and produce the most get to reap a commensurate share of the rewards. It doesn't really matter what you do, there are always going to be "winners" and "losers"...........that's just human nature.
There are a lot of smart people working on alternatives to the present death cult of capitalism, looking at more equitable systems of governance and sustainable technologies. People are beginning to pull away from the status quo way of doing things and developing ways to live in harmony with the Earth, each other and with all living things. You won't find any of it on mainstream media because it is not in their best interests. We have the technology now. It is time to start transitioning away from oil and gas.
 

gore0bsessed

Time Out
Oct 23, 2011
2,414
0
36
I think there has to be some sort of system of merit, so that those who work the hardest/smartest and produce the most get to reap a commensurate share of the rewards

so basically the opposite of what we have now.

these "personal responsibility" guys believe in an extremely flawed logic that an individual in complete control of his/her own destiny and that no outside influences or bad luck can effect him/her.
that poor bum on the streets is poor because he's simply lazy, he doesn't work hard enough.
 

Cliffy

Standing Member
Nov 19, 2008
44,850
193
63
Nakusp, BC
BTW Cliffy your computer is made out of petroleum products. And it was probably shipped from China on a container ship that runs on diesel. That electricity powering your PC doesn't come from the farts of anarchists, it is likely powered by the oil industry in one form or another.
Why isn't it made here? Why isn't the palstics made from hemp which is biodegradable? Why are we using 10 year old technology when we already have the tech to change all this?

Capitalists are milking the system for all its worth and making a killing on human ignorance.
 

Angstrom

Hall of Fame Member
May 8, 2011
10,659
0
36
In nature the bum would die. Are you saying nature is flawed gore?

so basically the opposite of what we have now.

these "personal responsibility" guys believe in an extremely flawed logic that an individual in complete control of his/her own destiny and that no outside influences or bad luck can effect him/her.
that poor bum on the streets is poor because he's simply lazy, he doesn't work hard enough.

??? So natural selection is flawed logic. ???

Our natural existence is logically flawed?

Well there you have it folks. You learned it here first. Nature is logically flawed
 

gore0bsessed

Time Out
Oct 23, 2011
2,414
0
36
humans exploiting other humans is not natural selection.

getting an injury or illness resulting in major debt and becoming homeless because you can't pay your medical bills because your country's medical care is infuriatingly stupid ( a regular occurrence in usa) is not natural selection.

are you dumb as **** or what?
 

Angstrom

Hall of Fame Member
May 8, 2011
10,659
0
36
Doing everything in your control that helps you servive can only help. It will not guarantee that you servive. But it will help
 

Angstrom

Hall of Fame Member
May 8, 2011
10,659
0
36
you seriously think homeless people are a failure of biology and not a failure of society?
The difference between you and me is I see humans as a force of nature and you see humans as apart from nature . There is where you're logic becomes flawed.

you seriously think homeless people are a failure of biology and not a failure of society?
When the slowest gets eaten by a lion? Is that a failure of the Hurd?

humans exploiting other humans is not natural selection.

getting an injury or illness resulting in major debt and becoming homeless because you can't pay your medical bills because your country's medical care is infuriatingly stupid ( a regular occurrence in usa) is not natural selection.

are you dumb as **** or what?

Well in nature your illness/critical injury would have resulted in death instead of major debt and homelessness.
Yes that is natural selection .
 
Last edited:

Colpy

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 5, 2005
21,887
848
113
71
Saint John, N.B.
You're a disgusting ****ing idiot!!! You supporting capitalism! Are you even rich? Capitalism only benefits the rich, period. Actually capitalism is basically socialism only for the rich...

WHAT THE **** DID I JUST TELL YOU ABOUT CHE SUPPORTING ANGOLAN INDEPENDENCE DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU RECOMMEND A BOOK THAT DOESN'T SUPPORT YOUR OPINIONS ????... HAVE U EVEN READ IT? I OWN IT.

HOW ARE YOU ACCUSING CHE FOR BEING RACIST , WHEN YOU YOURSELF SUPPORT A RACIST IDEOLOGY?? YOU'RE RACIST TO THE CORE!!! YOU'RE A HYPOCRITE...

AS FAR AS THOSE QUOTES GO

Did Ché Guevara write 'extensively' about the superiority of white Europeans? Rubio says yes | PolitiFact Florida

I SUGGEST YOU READ IT IN ITS ENTIRELY, IT'S GOOD TO RID YOURSELF OF IGNORANCE.

Get out of here Taxlsave, you're a neanderthal, about as dumb as they come. No hope for you i'm afraid.

Marxism is a religion, requiring a mindless faith in the perfectablity of man that would shame a mystic. It is ridiculous, dangerous, and absolutely incompatible with human nature.....which is why 100 million died in its wake in the last 100 years.

In response to your question, why yes, I am rich. And so are you. I will make $42,000 this year, the first time I have broken $40,000 in my life. That puts me in the top ONE PERCENT in the world. Check it out.

Global Rich List

Plug in your earnings, and it tells you where you are on the world scale. It is an eye-opener.

Capitalism, when constrained by democracy, is by far the best system for the most people. Even the Chinese Communist Party recognizes the advantages of a free market, although they have gone full fascist..........BTW, Fidel Castro also has repudiated Communism.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...-model-doesnt-even-work-for-us-anymore/62602/

Yes, Che fought in the Angola.....and he had nothing but scorn for the Angolans.

I have read the book I recommended, it is a very good read, very detailed. I also read his Bolivian Diaries many years ago, as well as his reflections on the Cuban revolutionary war. I understand the fascination over Guevara, he was a fascinating man.....as I said, a true believer.

But he was WRONG.

There was only one ending possible for him, even Fidel understood that. That is why Castro basically sent him out of Cuba to fight for world-wide socialism......he knew he would die in the attempt.



BTW, you are proving my point by freaking out. Fanaticism is not an argument. It only proves my point, not yours.
 
Last edited:

Angstrom

Hall of Fame Member
May 8, 2011
10,659
0
36
lmfao

i don't know why i'm laughing, your stupidity is frightening

Socialism could work if humans where perfect.
The idea humans can achieve global perfectness
Is impossible.

you're decisions are based on facts that are imaginary.
That's why you're not having any success. You blame the
World, but really you have no control over it. The
World simply is natural with or without us. The way humans
Are is just a extension of our natural basic instincts.

It's frustrating for you making the same mistakes.
You're logic tells you you're making good decisions.
But those decisions are based on things that are not real.

You're ability to make good decisions has been compromised
Because of you're distorted reality

Only a fool thinks billions of years of nature being natural can be changed
It is much easier to change yourself . At least you have control over that.

Good luck

What's a hurd?
Herd


And what if the destruction of the planet is precisely what nature intended for us to do?

We are naturally destroying the planet regardless of anything we change. It's only a matter of time and how long.

Humans are animals, and a part of nature. There is no fact more true then this reality. From that fact you have a very solid foundation to base you're decisions with.
 
Last edited:

Sal

Hall of Fame Member
Sep 29, 2007
17,135
33
48
In nature the bum would die. Are you saying nature is flawed gore?
nature is base



??? So natural selection is flawed logic. ???
it is not flawed for its

level...base

Our natural existence is logically flawed?
we, well not really we...many many people on the planet have risen far far beyond base nature...others not so much

Well there you have it folks. You learned it here first. Nature is logically flawed
once you're stuck on an idea, you're stuck eh :lol:

nature is cruel but I might add, not all of nature is either, even animals will share let me qualify that...some animals...this theory is at a base level...human nature has the ability, the choice to rise beyond it

the more intelligent a society becomes the more sophisticated it develops socially, morally, ethically

on a daily basis, your average human being will and does rise above base level, tribalism is still a strong part of our nature which is why "like" people with "like" interests and "like" agendas congregate...ya know, birds of a feather thing

check out Maslow's hierarchy of needs, not all ends with Darwin, some of us have actually moved forward as a species
 

Angstrom

Hall of Fame Member
May 8, 2011
10,659
0
36
nature is base



it is not flawed for its

level...base

we, well not really we...many many people on the planet have risen far far beyond base nature...others not so much

once you're stuck on an idea, you're stuck eh :lol:

nature is cruel but I might add, not all of nature is either, even animals will share let me qualify that...some animals...this theory is at a base level...human nature has the ability, the choice to rise beyond it

the more intelligent a society becomes the more sophisticated it develops socially, morally, ethically

on a daily basis, your average human being will and does rise above base level, tribalism is still a strong part of our nature which is why "like" people with "like" interests and "like" agendas congregate...ya know, birds of a feather thing

check out Maslow's hierarchy of needs, not all ends with Darwin, some of us have actually moved forward as a species

Every thing we moved forward with is only a extension of our natural human instinct.
You think you're above nature, but that's not true. You are natural, not above natural.

Any decisions you take based on the fact that you think you're better then nature is based on imagination, and will lead you to a wrong conclusion.

That's what happened with the deer lady. She thought she was above natural.
Based on her imaginary reality she was lead to the wrong conclusion.
 
Last edited:

Retired_Can_Soldier

The End of the Dog is Coming!
Mar 19, 2006
12,609
1,507
113
61
Alberta
Why isn't it made here? Why isn't the palstics made from hemp which is biodegradable? Why are we using 10 year old technology when we already have the tech to change all this?

Capitalists are milking the system for all its worth and making a killing on human ignorance.

You as a consumer have a choice. If you support a business you vehemently oppose you are part of the problem. My guess is there are lots like you who want hemp computers with solar dishes and little windmills, but find it easier to complain than change.