Trudeau threatens to sue Scheer over SNC statements

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MARIN: Trudeau in no position to lecture about truthfulness
Andre Marin
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April 13, 2019
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April 13, 2019 3:24 PM EDT
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau meets with Executive Chairman of Stelco Inc. Alan Kestenbaum in his office on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on Thursday, April 11, 2019. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Sean Kilpatrick)
It was about six months before the last Ontario provincial election that then-Premier Kathleen Wynne decided to sue then-opposition leader Patrick Brown.
The lawsuit came as a result of a Sept. 12, 2018, media scrum where Brown said Ontario had “a sitting premier sitting in trial.” Wynne’s lawyers at the time said the statement was “false and defamatory” as the premier “was not on trial for bribery and has not been investigated by the police.”
The lawsuit was no doubt intended as a distraction and was launched when the Ontario Liberals were in free fall in the polls, and we all know what happened next. They were decimated in the polls and reduced to non-party status. The legal manoeuvre backfired badly.
It wasn’t the first time Wynne turned to the courts just before an election. In 2014 election, She launched a $2-million libel action against the Tories then leader, Tim Hudak, and MPP Lisa MacLeod (Nepean-Carleton) over comments about her alleged role in former premier Dalton McGuinty’s cancellation of gas plants in Oakville and Mississauga. Things were settled out of court in 2015.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau stands alongside Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne (right) during a funding announcement for the Toronto waterfront in Toronto on Wednesday, June 28 , 2017. Chris Young / THE CANADIAN PRESS
She went on to win the election, which probably emboldened her to do it again in 2018. The first time worked like a charm, the second not so much.
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We’re now seeing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau channelling Wynne’s tactic from last September by sending a libel notice to opposition Leader Andrew Scheer six months before the election. Trudeau borrowed Wynne’s playbook but obviously didn’t read the conclusion.
Trudeau is experiencing a freefall in the polls as well as a result of LavScam and other scandals. Not to mention the long list of failed promises, such as reforming the voting system and balancing the books by 2019.
The 2015 political golden boy, who fancied himself playing Mr. Dress-up in India, has seen his star power sucked into the black hole we saw last week.
The Liberals are now trailing the Conservatives and according to a Nanos Research Poll it’s mostly because of the tarnished golden boy himself.
Nik Nanos said: “The most significant effect has been the negative impact on the prime minister’s personal brand.”
An Ipsos poll found Trudeau’s approval rating of 40% was below U.S. President Donald Trump’s 43%.
How does Trudeau intend to change the channel? A libel lawsuit against Scheer for comments he made about the LavScam ordeal.
Trudeau said with a straight face: “I think highlighting that there are consequences short-term and long-term when politicians choose to twist the truth and distort reality for Canadians, it’s not something we’re going to put up with.”
All because Scheer said former Attorney General Jody Wilson-Raybould’s submission provided “concrete evidence that proves Justin Trudeau led a campaign to politically interfere in SNC-Lavalin’s criminal prosecution,” and the entire affair was “corruption on top of corruption on top of corruption.”
Trudeau added: “I think it’s important that all politicians be straight with Canadians in how they characterize their own actions and their own beliefs. I think we’re going to have an election in the coming months, you can’t be inventing things, you can’t be lying to Canadians.”
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Again, sounds a lot like Wynne’s lawsuit against Brown.
When the Globe and Mail broke the SNC-Lavalin story on Feb. 7 alleging that PMO aides had put pressure on JWR to tell her prosecutors to drop criminal charges against the Liberal-friendly company, Trudeau flatly called the story, “false.” It was, in fact, true. Top Liberal aides, including the so-called impartial public servant Michael Wernick who has since departed, have all spoken of the pressure that was put on JWR to order her prosecutors off the case.
Trudeau should drop his partisan lawsuit and focus on fulfilling his promises instead of trying to change the channel. He’s the last one to lecture other politicians about telling the truth.
http://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/marin-trudeau-in-no-position-to-lecture-about-truthfulness
 

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This is just pathetic.

The prime minister doesn't love us as much as he loves Quebec.


You can deny it, but it's always been that way and not just Trudeau. Just follow the government contracts. Part of the hate for Harper was that he wasn't a Quebecor, but a "gasp" an Albertan.


 

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Trudeau said with a straight face: “I think highlighting that there are consequences short-term and long-term when politicians choose to twist the truth and distort reality for Canadians, it’s not something we’re going to put up with.”
Rather ironic considering Groper keeps calling Scheer a White nationalist with absolutely zero proof of that.

Maybe if Groper actually tried running the country instead of trying to secure another term through rather odious means he'd be doing better in the approval dept. But it's too late for that now. What's interesting is how far his approval rating has dropped among women. At this point in time it looks like the only woman who will vote for Groper is Hoid.

And let's face it, while politicians tend to be hypocritical much of the time, Groper has taken that hypocrisy to gross new heights, and the bulk of the nation can see it. As was pointed out in the article, this is practically a redux of the fall of the Ontario Liberals.

Hell, Groper will be lucky if he can get elected to dog catcher in Chicoutimi after November.
 

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"The prime minister doesn't love us (Albertans) as much as he loves Quebec."

With Canadian PMs I don't think it's love so much as just trying to keep Quebec in the country, so long as there seems a threat they would try to leave. It would probably be silly of them to do that but that wouldn't stop them - look at brexit :). Meantime some Albertans are airing the same threat, but it's not clear to me how leaving the federation would help them get a pipeline through BC. Doesn't make sense in any case - look at brexit :)

Negotiating exit from a federation including 3 official nationalities/races could take a few days! - especially when you're a landlocked territory already having trouble with export of your current major product.

When it comes to provincial relationships "nobody loves me" is everybody's theme song.
 
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You can deny it, but it's always been that way and not just Trudeau. Just follow the government contracts. Part of the hate for Harper was that he wasn't a Quebecor, but a "gasp" an Albertan.
Is this the new "Harper only cares about Alberta" shoe on the other foot?
 

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"The prime minister doesn't love us (Albertans) as much as he loves Quebec."

With Canadian PMs I don't think it's love so much as just trying to keep Quebec in the country, so long as there seems a threat they would try to leave. It would probably be silly of them to do that but that wouldn't stop them - look at brexit :). Meantime some Albertans are airing the same threat, but it's not clear to me how leaving the federation would help them get a pipeline through BC. Doesn't make sense in any case - look at brexit :)

Negotiating exit from a federation including 3 official nationalities/races could take a few days! - especially when you're a landlocked territory already having trouble with export of your current major product.

When it comes to provincial relationships "nobody loves me" is everybody's theme song.


The threat of exit is not the same as Quebec. At least not on the same scale. Separatists are few and far between in Alberta, and I'd agree that Quebec has readily used it as a way to leverage money out of Ottawa.
 

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Separatists are few and far between in Alberta.

I'm glad to hear that. Could be about the same with B.C. separation theorists - but at least they have the natural separation of the mountains as an excuse, and the fact that most of Canada thinks 'the west' ends at the eastern foothills. What would worry me more about the separatists' way of thinking is that a lot of them would want to join the U.S., become part of 'Cascadia.'

*shudder*
 

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The only thing I am defending against is the relentless stupidity
And yet you fully support Groper and his utter stupidity. How's that self-balancing budget working out? It's 2019, I don't see that promised balanced budget yet. It's always nice when Libtards go into a structural deficit mode even when they claim the economy is just rolling along.

How's that election reform coming along?

How does Groper plan on building the TMP while signing onto the West Coast tanker moratorium?

How's he going to continue to claim to be a feminist after the entire country has seen how he treats women? Particularly those women who can think for themselves and don't share his f*cking retarded ideology, unlike you.

Of course then there's the question of how you can run around whinging about "white nattys" while you support a Quebec nationalist who clearly believes that Quebeckers are superior to the rest of Canada. So you're okay with a Quebec nationalist in charge but you draw the line at White nationalism, even though the two are essentially the same. And you claim to be defending against relentless stupidity? Holy shit dude, you promote relentless stupidity with every post you make. You are a black hole of relentless stupidity.
 

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How does Groper plan on building the TMP while signing onto the West Coast tanker moratorium?
How's he going to continue to claim to be a feminist after the entire country has seen how he treats women? Particularly those women who can think for themselves and don't share his f*cking retarded ideology, unlike you.
Princess Justin is going to dig dad's tutu out of the tickle trunk, get really stoned with mom then pirouette across the lawn of the Hill while announcing an Indigenous run hyperloop pipeline to China.

Tra la la loop dee do.
 

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And yet you fully support Groper and his utter stupidity. How's that self-balancing budget working out? It's 2019, I don't see that promised balanced budget yet. It's always nice when Libtards go into a structural deficit mode even when they claim the economy is just rolling along.

How's that election reform coming along?

How does Groper plan on building the TMP while signing onto the West Coast tanker moratorium?

How's he going to continue to claim to be a feminist after the entire country has seen how he treats women? Particularly those women who can think for themselves and don't share his f*cking retarded ideology, unlike you.

Of course then there's the question of how you can run around whinging about "white nattys" while you support a Quebec nationalist who clearly believes that Quebeckers are superior to the rest of Canada. So you're okay with a Quebec nationalist in charge but you draw the line at White nationalism, even though the two are essentially the same. And you claim to be defending against relentless stupidity? Holy shit dude, you promote relentless stupidity with every post you make. You are a black hole of relentless stupidity.
Not nearly long enough
 

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Princess Justin is going to dig dad's tutu out of the tickle trunk, get really stoned with mom then pirouette across the lawn of the Hill while announcing an Indigenous run hyperloop pipeline to China.
Tra la la loop dee do.
Does he smoke the same shyte as you?
 

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Scheer has scrubbed his social media accounts of all the stuff he never said.
 

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Scheer has scrubbed his social media accounts of all the stuff he never said.
Link please...we know you lie a lot.

Justin Trudeau can't commit to a libel court date.

Scheer wants to go to court and has not retracted his statements. Trudeau doesn't want to go.
See for yourself.
 

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Conservatives seek criminal investigation of PM's trips to Aga Khan's island

OTTAWA — The federal Conservatives want the RCMP to look into whether Prime Minister Justin Trudeau broke the law by accepting family vacations on the Aga Khan's private Caribbean island.
In a letter to RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki, Conservative MP Peter Kent says a thorough investigation should be conducted to ensure Canadians have confidence in the integrity of government.
Kent's 26-page letter notes that members of Trudeau's family visited the private retreat of the Aga Khan, a billionaire philanthropist, on three occasions from 2014 to 2017.
In December 2017, then-federal ethics commissioner Mary Dawson found Trudeau contravened four sections of the Conflict of Interest Act in relation to a Christmas 2016 stay on the island, saying the holiday could reasonably be seen as a gift designed to influence the prime minister.
In his letter, Kent cites a Criminal Code provision that prohibits a government official from accepting a benefit of any kind from someone who has dealings with the government.
Dawson's report said the federal government had supported projects of the Aga Khan Foundation Canada by contributing nearly $330 million to initiatives in various countries.
The government also regularly consulted foundation representatives on current and emerging development trends and priorities, she noted.
Following Dawson's 2017 findings, opposition parties argued Trudeau should refund the treasury for all or part of the transportation and security costs related to the Christmas 2016 trip.
Trudeau acknowledged at the time he should have checked with the ethics commissioner's office before accepting the holiday, and said he would now clear all family vacations with the commissioner.
"I've always considered the Aga Khan a close family friend, which is why I didn't clear this family trip in the first place, but given the commissioner's report, I will be taking all precautions in the future."
Chantal Gagnon, a spokeswoman for the prime minister, said Thursday that Kent’s letter was "nothing more than a public relations stunt by the Conservatives."
In September 2017, then-lobbying commissioner Karen Shepherd said there was no basis to a complaint that the Aga Khan violated the code for lobbyists by allowing Trudeau and his family to stay on the island.
However, a Federal Court judge recently ordered Shepherd's successor, Nancy Belanger, to take a fresh look at the matter.
The court said that as a board member of the foundation, the spiritual leader of the world's Ismaili Muslims was directly and legally connected to the organization bearing his name and was acting as its representative in giving a gift to the prime minister.
Ottawa is contesting the ruling in the Federal Court of Appeal.
 

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Yep, the RCMP is above board, just as Trustfund-eau is....or so he says. Love honesty, don't you?