Trudeau threatens to sue Scheer over SNC statements

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Yep, the RCMP is above board, just as Trustfund-eau is....or so he says. Love honesty, don't you?
Well, if the RCMP aren't above board, why in the world would the Conservatives want them involved (other than to waste more taxpayer's dollars)
 

Mowich

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could have spent it on alternative energy that will actually be useful in the future, rather than on oil which will be obsolete.
could have showed he actually possess a pair and declared it to be in the national interest.
 

Mowich

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"The prime minister doesn't love us (Albertans) as much as he loves Quebec."

With Canadian PMs I don't think it's love so much as just trying to keep Quebec in the country, so long as there seems a threat they would try to leave. It would probably be silly of them to do that but that wouldn't stop them - look at brexit :). Meantime some Albertans are airing the same threat, but it's not clear to me how leaving the federation would help them get a pipeline through BC. Doesn't make sense in any case - look at brexit :)

Negotiating exit from a federation including 3 official nationalities/races could take a few days! - especially when you're a landlocked territory already having trouble with export of your current major product.

When it comes to provincial relationships "nobody loves me" is everybody's theme song.

Support for the Separatist Movement in Quebec is at an all time low. The PQ were relegated to 4th party status in the Quebec legislature back in March after yet another MP left to sit as an independent leaving the party with but 9 seats.

"A full 82 per cent of Quebec respondents to a survey conducted by the Angus Reid Institute in partnership with CBC agreed with the statement, "Ultimately, Quebec should stay in Canada."

When broken down by language group, 73 per cent of francophone respondents said Quebec should remain in Canada."
www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-angus-reid-canada-indepdence-1.3788110

So that argument doesn't wash.

This goes to the heart of the history of corruption and bribery that has tainted Quebec politicians and companies for decades. It is simply a way of life that has been perpetuated and exploited for generations. It should come as no surprise to anyone who follows politics that the little potato would be of similar persuasion.

There are many times that I sorely wish we here in the Heartland of BC could separate from the Left Coast so I have some sympathy for Albertans who share that viewpoint.

When it comes to provincial relationships these days - the message is not 'nobody loves me' rather it is 'Just Watch Us' as one Conservative government after another join forces speaking with a much more powerful voice than those left in the wilderness. The current person sitting at the head of the BC government is a prime example of the latter.
 

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Oh how the Cons howl about the SNC Lavalin debacle, pretending to be taking the moral high road. They are not any better. Neither of these parties give a shit about propriety. Don't be fooled.





Looks like Trudeau not the only politician on SNC Lavalin's payroll. This picture was taken at an Andrew Scheer fundraiser. Liberals and Tories same old Story
 

Hoid

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Oh how the Cons howl about the SNC Lavalin debacle, pretending to be taking the moral high road. They are not any better. Neither of these parties give a shit about propriety. Don't be fooled.





Looks like Trudeau not the only politician on SNC Lavalin's payroll. This picture was taken at an Andrew Scheer fundraiser. Liberals and Tories same old Story
you can tell it was a Scheer fund raiser by the size of the crowd
 

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Imagine you’re Justin Trudeau.

The SNC-Lavalin scandal has been battering your government for weeks. Your story keeps shifting. The usually docile media aren’t letting it rest. Even a thousand coordinated tweets about the positive impact of the Canada Child Benefit can’t change the channel.

On the contrary, l’affair SNC—now christened LavScam—is picking up steam.

You’ve been forced to accept the resignation of your good friend and top advisor, Gerry Butts, who showed himself the door despite doing absolutely nothing wrong on SNC. Your boy Buttsy jumped on the SNC grenade to spare others the damage.

Only Butts missed the grenade. Completely.

Even worse, Jody Wilson-Raybould—i.e. the grenade-launcher—is now before the Justice Committee. She’s (relatively) free to speak and she is letting loose. And now the shrapnel is everywhere, and everyone is bleeding.

You’re bleeding. Your chief of staff is bleeding. Your Quebec advisor is bleeding. Your policy guy is bleeding. Your big-spending, do-nothing finance minister is bleeding. Your finance minister’s chief of staff is bleeding. And the “non-partisan” clerk of the Privy Council—i.e. your own personal pick for the post? Well, Michael Wernick is soiled. Comprehensively soiled. And bleeding.

It’s riveting testimony. The media are typing as if their lives depend on it. The cable guys are running the full hearing. And ordinary people are watching, because it’s not every day you see a member of a government strafe its leadership. Strafe you.

Only strafe isn’t the word. It’s more of a shiv. There is no emotion or hysteria. There is ice in Jody Wilson-Raybould’s veins and a steely determination as she coolly, calmly and credibly outlines the myriad ways your political and bureaucratic apparatus attempted to impress upon her independent mind the need to have another think on SNC, despite her repeated attempts to everyone—including you—that her thinking on the matter was all done.

You’re watching this all go down, and it is devastating. Your government is in peril. You’re in peril. You’re staring a return to your career of part-time drama teaching right in the face.

And so you decide it’s time to fight back. Because the cast of fifth-rate clowns you sent to fill the Liberal seats at the justice committee certainly didn’t do any fighting back. They not only missed the grenades, they picked them up, played with them, and then didn’t even realize when they went off in their faces.

But that’s all right. You’re Justin Trudeau. Mr. Sunny Ways. Mr. Hope and Hard Work. You got this. So you wheel yourself out to ‘push back’ against Wilson-Raybould’s allegations.

Only you don’t push back.

You don’t counter Wilson-Raybould’s facts and recollections with any of your own. You don’t dispute what was said, even about your alleged direct personal involvement, other than to say you disagree with Wilson-Raybould’s “characterization” of events.

And it stinks.

It stinks as you moan about a difficult couple of weeks because of “internal disagreements.” It stinks as you reference your success in making it easier to die, and your success in making it easier to get high. It stinks as you talk about your job being to stand up for jobs and pensions, to stand up for Canadians, and for Canadian workers, and all in an overly dramatic tone that suggests that no other prime minister has ever had that in their job description. It stinks as you speak about anything other than what Canadians need to hear from you.

And you say all of this nothing in front of a carefully crafted human backdrop meant to demonstrate your love of youth and diversity. Except the youth look like they’re in a hostage video (they are). Your human backdrop even includes your new MP, Rachel Bendayan, who is standing over your shoulder tonight playing the role of Huma Abedin while you step all over your wiener.

There isn’t a hint of contrition, or even a speck of responsibility for letting things get this far. No acknowledgment that Wilson-Raybould has laid out a set of serious charges that require serious answers. Your focus remains political.

When you’re asked about Andrew Scheer’s call for your resignation over the seriousness of these allegations, you mumble something about Stephen Harper being a bad man and this coming election being about a choice, blithely assuming you’ll still be in function to see it out. And when you’re asked about Wilson-Raybould remaining in the Liberal caucus, you say you will have to review her full testimony—testimony you have already dismissed, by the way—before deciding her fate, when it really should be the other way around.

You tell Canadians—in that sanctimonious and overly serious tone you adopt when you’re under the cosh—who have watched Wilson-Raybould rattle their confidence in Canada’s institutions to now have confidence in the ethics commissioner, an office that has already found you guilty of breaking another law, but isn’t equipped to investigate the allegations unfurled by Wilson-Raybould. And while you’re busy doing that, you have your office tell media that nobody else will be resigning based on Wilson-Raybould’s testimony.

In other words, every move you make tonight makes you look like the un-smart, un-serious man that so many of your political opponents have always insisted you are.

But you can’t let that worry you.

Your only bet now is that you being you will be enough to see you through. If there is enough talk about evil Tories, or lost jobs, or Liberal values, then Canadians might just go back to sleep and wake up thinking you’re that wonderful man who promised to change everything in 2015.


https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/justin-trudeau-my-how-youve-changed/
 

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Those are called Mosques .


Hoid is actually so stupid he believes mainstream Christian churches want gays put to death.


My family was fundamentalist backwoods Baptist, about as Christian as they can be.


My brother is gay.


He was fully accepted by my family (as was a gay cousin) and never suffered a moment of disrespect over his sexuality.


He is now an instructor at a small seminary (PhD in Divinity, counseling) and has spent decades working with established churches on the humane inclusion of openly gay people into the church.


He does believe that homosexual acts are sin, and is now celibate.


But the true Christian belief is "Hate the sin, love the sinner"


Hoid needs to move out of Mommy's basement and try to get a grip on reality.


The only North American church I am aware of that might do gays harm is Westboro.......and it has all of 35 members.


Islam has 1.6 billion members, and most think gays should be put to death. (sharia law)
 

Jinentonix

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Would you prefer he sit in churches that believe gays should be put to death?
Like ultra-religious socialist hero Tommy Douglas? Oh that's right, he was such a humanist he only wanted to lobotomize gay people, not kill 'em.

But since you're irony impaired, it makes little sense to march in Pride Parades (especially when Western Canada was burning) and then attend ANY religious gathering of idiots who want gay people put to death. To put it simply, if you try to be everything to everyone, eventually you have to start tossing some your vaunted principles under the bus. At which point you just end up pissing a bunch of people right off.

But only blindingly stupid idiots haven't figured out yet that Groper is a just a phony. He's as fake as a $3 coin and even more worthless.
 

Hoid

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i don't think muslims want to behead anyone or put anyone to death

but i'm not a white natty so I'm not actually required to believe that
 

Ron in Regina

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i don't think muslims want to behead anyone or put anyone to death

but i'm not a white natty so I'm not actually required to believe that


I googled "beheading" and 7/10 results displayed on that page mention Islam in the title. There's 11,200,000 results but I only looked at the first page. Is Google a white natty? Just a coincidence?
 

Hoid

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I googled "beheading" and 7/10 results displayed on that page mention Islam in the title. There's 11,200,000 results but I only looked at the first page. Is Google a white natty? Just a coincidence?
The only beheading I remember in Canada was on bus and was not a muslim.


And yes google knows exactly who asks what questions and the answers you get are the ones you are looking for.