Trudeau Backing off on Syrian Refugee Promise

AnnaG

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I wonder if all those people who think they will miss Harper, know about the enormous debt he left
us ?....
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As opposed to which other PMs? Martin? The debt at the end of his stint was small? Chretien left a small debt? Mulroney? Trudeau?
 

JLM

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I wonder if all those people who think they will miss Harper, know about the enormous debt he left
us ?....

The burning question is how much of it was spent on things the electorate demanded! ( In case you haven't noticed politicians get elected on the basis of their promises, which quite often entails spending.) :) :)

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As opposed to which other PMs? Martin? The debt at the end of his stint was small? Chretien left a small debt? Mulroney? Trudeau?

Also to be considered is the strength of Mr. Harper's dollar compared to the strength of the dollar of P.M.s years and decades ago.

Is Ontario's Ten thousand in addition to Justin's 25 grand?
 

AnnaG

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Answer your own question. What was the national debt at the end of each other PMs terms?
Trudeau about $12,000 per person. up from about $2,500.
Mulroney about $12,000 to about $23,000
Chretien and Martin from about $23,000 to about $22,000 per person
Harper from About $22,000 to about $28,000 per person
Respectively; Trudeau, $290 billion
Mulroney, $600 billion
Chretien/Martin, $700 billion
Harper, $1 trillion

Someone else can do the PMs before those, but not one of these left a small debt.
 

AnnaG

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The current national debt is more than $1 trillion, but there's a pattern isn't there?
My numbers were approximate. I rounded off a bit here and there. A pattern? Yeah, in comparison to the population, government has grown exponentially.
 

JamesBondo

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Good lord! He actually made a promise like that? Looks like we just elected a high school kid running for student council.
 

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My numbers were approximate. I rounded off a bit here and there. A pattern? Yeah, in comparison to the population, government has grown exponentially.

Debt does not equal the size of government. The pattern is a massive increase in debt under conservative governments.

This is one promise I'm grad he's breaking. ;)

He hasn't broken that promise. Don't let the title of this thread fool you.
 

JLM

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Trudeau about $12,000 per person. up from about $2,500.
Mulroney about $12,000 to about $23,000
Chretien and Martin from about $23,000 to about $22,000 per person
Harper from About $22,000 to about $28,000 per person
Respectively; Trudeau, $290 billion
Mulroney, $600 billion
Chretien/Martin, $700 billion
Harper, $1 trillion

Someone else can do the PMs before those, but not one of these left a small debt.

It's all a moot point anyway, Anna. They all have their own bookkeeping procedures and when it gets too onerous it gets shifted to provinces and municipalities.

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As opposed to which other PMs? Martin? The debt at the end of his stint was small? Chretien left a small debt? Mulroney? Trudeau?

Trudeau and Baloney left approx. 400 billion each! It gets pretty tricky though, to be entire accurate you have to subtract accrued assets during their tenure.
 

JLM

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Debt does not equal the size of government. The pattern is a massive increase in debt under conservative governments.

And Liberal ones too. (I think most of Martin's decrease in debt =ed the amount transferred to the provinces)

Chances are that he's setting up to alter his promise

He's going to have too and I suspect a few others as well. It will be interesting to see how legalizing marijuana sales is going to "fly". Colorado has already encountered some problems and are finding out their profits aren't as big as expected. Like I suggested before "legalize" it in one city for one year and see how that works. Don't be a dummy like Glen Clark.:) :)
 

DaSleeper

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Well Trudeau got the Joo phobic vote......



 

damngrumpy

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While I don't miss Harper for a minute I am concerned about reversal so quick
I would have preferred Mulcair actually. Social conservatives I am afraid of the
promises the might just do the things I don't like. I am afraid of Liberal quick
promises they don't keep them. The NDP I don't know we have never had an
NDP government federally
 

MHz

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Sorry, but Harper did not invent bureaucracy and government.

Problematic is right.
The problem with your idea being that the government does not run cruise ship lines. It would have to convince some private bunch of the efficacy of freeing up a cruise ship the gov't could use.
What Syrian would want to go to an invading country? A vengeful one.
You rent one, not that hard to figure out. Military ships is another option.
Now where do you suppose the missing ones went and would you like to speculate they were high up on the chain of command with ISIS?

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151028/1029202828/Hundreds-Refugees-Vanish-Germany.html

Roughly seven hundred of 4,000 asylum-seekers who had been initially accommodated in the German state of Lower Saxony have mysteriously disappeared, and because of administrative breakdowns, local authorities are clueless about who and where they are.