Truck Terror Attack in NYC

Colpy

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In any war, you have to be able to prioritize: You can't win everything, so where would you rather win? Raqqa or Rotterdam? Kandahar or Cannes? Yet, whenever some guy goes Allahu Akbar on the streets of a western city, the telly pundits generally fall into one of two groups: The left say it's no big deal, and the right say this is why we need more boots on the ground in Syria or Afghanistan. Yesterday President Trump said he was committed to ensuring that terrorists "never again have a safe haven to launch attacks against our country".
By that he means "safe havens" in Afghanistan. But the reason the west's enemies are able to pile up a continuous corpse count in Paris, Nice, Berlin, Brussels, London, Manchester, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Orlando, San Bernadino, Ottawa, Sydney, Barcelona, [Your Town Here] is because they have "safe havens" in France, Germany, Britain, Scandinavia, North America, etc. Which "safe havens" are likely to prove more consequential for the developed world in the years ahead..? In Afghanistan, we're fighting for something not worth winning, and we're losing. In Europe, Islam is fighting for something very much worth winning, and they're advancing. And, according to all the official strategists in Washington and elsewhere, these two things are nothing to do with each other.
So now eight grieving families and dozens more who'll be living with horrific injuries for the rest of their lives are told by Cuomo and De Blasio and the rest of the gutless political class behind their security details that there's nothing to do except to get used to it.
I don't want to get used to it - and I reiterate my minimum demand of western politicians that I last made after the London Bridge attacks: How many more corpses need to pile up on our streets before you guys decide to stop importing more of it?
If your congressman or senator says that's not on his agenda, what he means is he's willing to sacrifice you and your loved ones in the suicide lottery of diversity.


https://www.steynonline.com/8229/jihad-on-the-bike-path
 

Tecumsehsbones

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In any war, you have to be able to prioritize: You can't win everything, so where would you rather win? Raqqa or Rotterdam? Kandahar or Cannes? Yet, whenever some guy goes Allahu Akbar on the streets of a western city, the telly pundits generally fall into one of two groups: The left say it's no big deal, and the right say this is why we need more boots on the ground in Syria or Afghanistan. Yesterday President Trump said he was committed to ensuring that terrorists "never again have a safe haven to launch attacks against our country".
By that he means "safe havens" in Afghanistan. But the reason the west's enemies are able to pile up a continuous corpse count in Paris, Nice, Berlin, Brussels, London, Manchester, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Orlando, San Bernadino, Ottawa, Sydney, Barcelona, [Your Town Here] is because they have "safe havens" in France, Germany, Britain, Scandinavia, North America, etc. Which "safe havens" are likely to prove more consequential for the developed world in the years ahead..? In Afghanistan, we're fighting for something not worth winning, and we're losing. In Europe, Islam is fighting for something very much worth winning, and they're advancing. And, according to all the official strategists in Washington and elsewhere, these two things are nothing to do with each other.
So now eight grieving families and dozens more who'll be living with horrific injuries for the rest of their lives are told by Cuomo and De Blasio and the rest of the gutless political class behind their security details that there's nothing to do except to get used to it.
I don't want to get used to it - and I reiterate my minimum demand of western politicians that I last made after the London Bridge attacks: How many more corpses need to pile up on our streets before you guys decide to stop importing more of it?
If your congressman or senator says that's not on his agenda, what he means is he's willing to sacrifice you and your loved ones in the suicide lottery of diversity.


https://www.steynonline.com/8229/jihad-on-the-bike-path

Gol-dang it, Americans have the right to be mass murdered by good, decent, white, Gawd-fearing Americans!
 

Kreskin

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Trump's racual profiling plan didn't include Uzbekistan. Is the old Soviet bloc on the list now?
 

Ocean Breeze

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Gol-dang it, Americans have the right to be mass murdered by good, decent, white, Gawd-fearing Americans!
sadly....it might go with the right to gun ownership and the gun culture that exists in America.

There is an extraordinary culture of violence in the US. That culture is a medium and ripe for the potential of home grown "terrorism"




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Is using Gitmo as a detention place for the current "terrorist" a good idea.?? Trump is banging on about dong that. Trump is allover the place with possible "reactive" ideas t combat this terrorist issue. But the situation is a MAJOR CHALLENGE........ with no essay fix IF there is one.


(but callilngthe justice system names is just stupid and counterproductive) He does that when he has no idea as to what to do.
 

Cliffy

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Brown Guy kills 8... He's labeled a "TERRORIST" on every media outlet, before they process the Crime Scene!! White Guy kills 59....???? Oh, they're still looking for a label that fits!!! Lone Gunman will suffice???
 

Ocean Breeze

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America’s news networks just running away with this attack..

News networks loves tragedy..
you know why, don't you??

There is a side of human nature that is attracted to tragedy and horror. That is a basic psychological fact. There is a morbid fascination there. Very primal. Folks won't admit this .......to themselves or others..It is neither "good" or "bad" .....it just is.

Brown Guy kills 8... He's labeled a "TERRORIST" on every media outlet, before they process the Crime Scene!! White Guy kills 59....???? Oh, they're still looking for a label that fits!!! Lone Gunman will suffice???
and notice how differently Trumpster reacted to each of theses incidents.

an aside little known factoid: when trump was in business........ he would NOT let any dark skinned people handle his money.. or come close to having a role in any financial transactions. Wonder if folks really know his meany bete Noirs (or do they care??)
 

Tecumsehsbones

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sadly....it might go with the right to gun ownership and the gun culture that exists in America.

There is an extraordinary culture of violence in the US. That culture is a medium and ripe for the potential of home grown "terrorism"
Like it or not, OB, gun homicides are a non-partisan thing in the U.S. Sure, the big splashy mass murders tend to be either right-wingers or just plain nutbars with no discernible agenda, but they are only a small percentage of the gun homicides. There is no political correlation to gun homicides in the U.s.



Is using Gitmo as a detention place for the current "terrorist" a good idea.?? Trump is banging on about dong that. Trump is allover the place with possible "reactive" ideas t combat this terrorist issue. But the situation is a MAJOR CHALLENGE........ with no essay fix IF there is one.


(but callilngthe justice system names is just stupid and counterproductive) He does that when he has no idea as to what to do.
Wait. . . you actually LISTEN to President Drunkuncle? You really gotta stop that.

This guy ain't going to no Gitmo. That would be incredibly stupid.

Hmm. . . maybe he is.
 

EagleSmack

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sadly....it might go with the right to gun ownership and the gun culture that exists in America.

There is an extraordinary culture of violence in the US. That culture is a medium and ripe for the potential of home grown "terrorism"

We need to ban paintball guns and Home Depot truck rentals!
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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In any war, you have to be able to prioritize: You can't win everything, so where would you rather win? Raqqa or Rotterdam? Kandahar or Cannes? Yet, whenever some guy goes Allahu Akbar on the streets of a western city, the telly pundits generally fall into one of two groups: The left say it's no big deal, and the right say this is why we need more boots on the ground in Syria or Afghanistan. Yesterday President Trump said he was committed to ensuring that terrorists "never again have a safe haven to launch attacks against our country".
By that he means "safe havens" in Afghanistan. But the reason the west's enemies are able to pile up a continuous corpse count in Paris, Nice, Berlin, Brussels, London, Manchester, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Orlando, San Bernadino, Ottawa, Sydney, Barcelona, [Your Town Here] is because they have "safe havens" in France, Germany, Britain, Scandinavia, North America, etc. Which "safe havens" are likely to prove more consequential for the developed world in the years ahead..? In Afghanistan, we're fighting for something not worth winning, and we're losing. In Europe, Islam is fighting for something very much worth winning, and they're advancing. And, according to all the official strategists in Washington and elsewhere, these two things are nothing to do with each other.
So now eight grieving families and dozens more who'll be living with horrific injuries for the rest of their lives are told by Cuomo and De Blasio and the rest of the gutless political class behind their security details that there's nothing to do except to get used to it.
I don't want to get used to it - and I reiterate my minimum demand of western politicians that I last made after the London Bridge attacks: How many more corpses need to pile up on our streets before you guys decide to stop importing more of it?
If your congressman or senator says that's not on his agenda, what he means is he's willing to sacrifice you and your loved ones in the suicide lottery of diversity.


https://www.steynonline.com/8229/jihad-on-the-bike-path

Actually, I have a much better approach.
Shut down all cable television, the internet, and all phone communication.
Sounds crazy and of course it would never happen, but I'm betting that this shit would be significantly curbed.
 

Curious Cdn

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Actually, I have a much better approach.
Shut down all cable television, the internet, and all phone communication.
Sounds crazy and of course it would never happen, but I'm betting that this shit would be significantly curbed.

A little bit more discipline while reporting these events would help. The whole point of terrorism is scaring the public with headlines. Hardly any of us are actually there.
 

Durry

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Actually, I have a much better approach.
Shut down all cable television, the internet, and all phone communication.
Sounds crazy and of course it would never happen, but I'm betting that this shit would be significantly curbed.
Absolute nonsense, this is free country, people have fought and died to protect our freedoms, no scum bag should ever even dream of us losing any of our freedoms, no matter the consequences!!
Got it !!
 

Ocean Breeze

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A little bit more discipline while reporting these events would help. The whole point of terrorism is scaring the public with headlines. Hardly any of us are actually there.
true enough. But what is happening is that the population is getting used to it now. There seems to be a kind of collective conditioning happening. The "shock" value begins to fade. That is what extremists rely on. We might be at a pivotal time as we have seen and heard about the worst of the worst of "humanity"

We "we" have to do is not allow ourselves to become too jaded ......IMHO any extremist mindset is not "normal"

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Tecumsehsbones

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Absolute nonsense, this is free country, people have fought and died to protect our freedoms, no scum bag should ever even dream of us losing any of our freedoms, no matter the consequences!!
Got it !!

Who the heck ever fought and died to protect Canadian freedoms?
 

Cannuck

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Absolute nonsense, this is free country, people have fought and died to protect our freedoms, no scum bag should ever even dream of us losing any of our freedoms, no matter the consequences!!
Got it !!

Good thing he didn't kneel eh?
 

Kreskin

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