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Bar Sinister

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And when is enough , enough ? We are already seeing investment fleeing the country , the federal government , most provincial governments and most municipal governments are already overworked and understaffed,creating an inefficient and costly business environment . However without the taxes and fees businesses provide the bureaucracy is redundant.


We'll have to wait and see on that issue. Canada is a relatively low tax country compared to most of the G20 and if Canada was to lower corporate taxes in response to Trump's tax cuts then personal income tax or sales' taxes would have to rise to make up the difference. The problem is that people want more and better public services and those services cost money. I don't see any way around that issue.
 

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Please point out where in my post that I said that they were.




It is six on one and a have dozen of the other. We are going to have taxes in any case. We just have to decide what form they would take. Governments are very good at finding new sources of revenue whether it is in the form of new taxes or user fees.
Sure we are , but when is enough , enough? How will my taxdollarpaying for another bean counter or metermaid change anything except my disposable income . The same part that keeps me sane by allowing me the freedom and wallet to do wharever I want .Various levels of government already take over 50% of my labor , how much is enough ? Just the price of a Starbucks a day then 2 how many ?

We'll have to wait and see on that issue. Canada is a relatively low tax country compared to most of the G20 and if Canada was to lower corporate taxes in response to Trump's tax cuts then personal income tax or sales' taxes would have to rise to make up the difference. The problem is that people want more and better public services and those services cost money. I don't see any way around that issue.
You obviously have a government position if you think 50% plus of my income is low taxed.
 

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It is six on one and a have dozen of the other. We are going to have taxes in any case. We just have to decide what form they would take. Governments are very good at finding new sources of revenue whether it is in the form of new taxes or user fees.


That's where Trump is very smart. He knows the more discretionary money that stays in a man's pocket the better off the country is.
 

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We'll have to wait and see on that issue. Canada is a relatively low tax country compared to most of the G20 and if Canada was to lower corporate taxes in response to Trump's tax cuts then personal income tax or sales' taxes would have to rise to make up the difference. The problem is that people want more and better public services and those services cost money. I don't see any way around that issue.




Canada as a LOW TAX country????????????????????????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So sorry stupid LIE-berals- Canada is CONSISTENTLY PLACED AT THE TOP OF THE HIGH TAX LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


Canada pays the highest a aggregate total if taxes in the western world!!!!!


LIE-berals DO LOVE to cherry pick through this tax and that tax and then forget the other tax on their way to telling LIES about how much tax we pay in TOTAL- to ALL levels of govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


And yet LIE-berals PERSIST in telling these highly selective EVASIONS of the truth AND they continue being angered at being called LIE-berals evne as they get CAUGHT LIE-beraling us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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That's where Trump is very smart. He knows the more discretionary money that stays in a man's pocket the better off the country is.

Yep the more the consumer saves on taxes, the more money that will flow through the economy helping more people make money, and create the same amount of taxes through different avenues.
 

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How's that expansion coming btw?

Should be going full steam ahead by now.
 

Bar Sinister

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Sure we are , but when is enough , enough? How will my taxdollarpaying for another bean counter or metermaid change anything except my disposable income . The same part that keeps me sane by allowing me the freedom and wallet to do wharever I want .Various levels of government already take over 50% of my labor , how much is enough ? Just the price of a Starbucks a day then 2 how many ?


You obviously have a government position if you think 50% plus of my income is low taxed.


You should check the facts before you post. Here are the tax rates for the G20. You will find Canada somewhere near the bottom.


https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/personal-income-tax-rate?continent=g20++

That's where Trump is very smart. He knows the more discretionary money that stays in a man's pocket the better off the country is.




Is it? Some African nations have an almost 100% discretionary rate.
 

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Very informative, however we pay more then federal income tax . That study failed to mention provincial and municipal taxes nor the Miriam of other levy’s ,and sin taxes .


AS I and many others have stated- Cdns are the most heavily taxed people in the western world- we pay the most and get the least!!!


Sadly- LIE-berals feel ENTITLED to LIE about tax rates and most other things as well!!!!




Here is yet another article exposing the failure of all LIE-beral policy. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Acadia University launches formal investigation into Prof. Rick Mehta over controversial comments

From Canadian Press. Published: February 26, 2018. Updated: February 26, 2018 5:09 PM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Canada

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WOLFVILLE, N.S. — Acadia University has launched a formal investigation into complaints against a professor over controversial comments he made on social media and in the classroom.

(Acadia U is merely the latest of a long line of LIE-beral friendly institutions being outed for their biased position! U of T prof Jordan Peterson was right about how many LIE-beral radicals have infiltrated the education field!)

Heather Hemming, vice-president academic at the Wolfville, N.S., school, said in a letter to professor Rick Mehta that the university has received complaints from students, faculty and others with concerns about his views.

(Oh! A STORM of controversy? Or just one or two PETTY WHINES that bigots are blowing up into a fake storm? Naturally LIE-berals will not say!)

“These concerns relate to the manner in which you are expressing views that you are alleged to be advancing or supporting and, in some instances, time that you are spending on these issues in the classroom,” she said in a letter on Feb. 13. “The university has a legal responsibility to provide an environment free from discrimination, sexual harassment and personal harassment.”

(Since it is the desire of radicals such as Black Lives Matter and native group Idle no More to silence any debate that they do not approve of it is no wonder there have been complaints! In our modern society- being controversial too often means you are telling the FULL TRUTH! One has only to look at the LIE-beral rush to change the way juries are selected simply because they do not like the jury verdict in the native Coulton Boushie shooting! It is full on LIE-beral bigotry!)

Hemming added: “The nature and frequency of these complaints and the significance of the allegations is concerning for the university, and we have determined the necessity of proceeding to a formal investigation.”

The university has retained Wayne MacKay, professor emeritus at Dalhousie University’s Schulich School of Law, to investigate and provide a report to the university, she said.

A spokesman for Acadia said in an email on Monday that the university is not in a position to comment.

Mehta has been outspoken both on campus and on social media about a range of contentious issues including decolonization, immigration, and gender politics, garnering both supporters and opposition.

(Decolonization is a apparently the latest LIE-beral buzz word meaning letting radicals REWRITE Cdn history in order to promote the poisoned idea of so called “white privilege”! It is little wonder we are facing this revisionist history- Our idiot Boy Justin has told us “he likes the way Chinese Communists get things done”- apparently meaning that Party bosses authorize the official history of the party- with dissenters risking a severe beating or even death at a Party approved re-education centre! Our idiot Boy gets his vile values from his father Pierre- who wrote the book “Two Innocents in Red China” and in it- gushed fawning praise over Chairman Mao for- as Pierre called it: “his genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows”!)

(Decolonization will work on various interpretations of history. The alleged peaceful and environmentally sensitive style of native life will be accented. LIE-berals will not want to discuss the genocidal war being fought between the Huron/Algonquin Confederacy and the Iroquois Confederacy at the time the first French explorers arrived in Canada. Radicals will not want to discuss how happy Mohawks were when the first Dutch settlers arrived in what is now New York City- with the Dutch being easily blackmailed into selling guns to the Mohawks so they could more quickly massacre Hurons!)

(Native radicals will write about how Europeans forced alcohol on innocent natives while ignoring the details supplied by Peter Newman in his trilogy about the Hudson`s Bay fur traders who recognized that natives could not handle alcohol and tried not to sell it- only to discover natives travelling many miles out of their way to seek out other fur traders who WOULD sell them alcohol! Hudson`s Bay Factors who refused to sell alcohol to natives faced bankruptcy for their values and were replaced!)

(Radicals will whine about how Cdn govt picked on Metis during the Riel Rebellions- but will skip over the various international incidents between Britain and Canada against the Yankees who were infuriated that Metis were making a very nice living smuggling guns across the border to Sioux and other native tribes fighting against U.S. Army!)

(Radicals will tell us how evil white people were for being involved in the slave trade- but they will skip over black involvement in the trade! They will skip over details such as black chiefs selling off people they did not like. Will not mention that when food was short- people were often offered to slavers by their enemies. They will not mention that the nation of Liberia was established by slaves paid by Yankee govt to go back to Africa- with the newly freed slaves setting up their own slave run plantations! Radicals will not admit that there are slaves being bought and sold in sub Saharan nations even today! “Decolonization pins any and all problems that radicals can think of onto white people- with NO regard for T|RUTH or logic!)

(Any dissenting voice that opposes decolonization can probably expect a call from a Human Rights Kangaroo Court! Jordan Peterson did a fine job of explaining how few real rights you have when faced with such a Kangaroo charge! In his lectures he talks about how Human Rights Courts DO NOT FOLLOW our standard rules of search and seizure, nor are the usual rules of admissible evidence followed either- a Human Rights Kangaroo Court can swiftly degenerate into a classic Soviet show trial that Franz Kafka would find amazing!)

He has come under fire for saying multiculturalism is a scam, there’s no wage gap between men and women, and the Truth and Reconciliation Commission has created a victim narrative to prompt “endless apologies and compensation.”

(That there are major problems with multi cult values is obvious! Natives have made it clear that their version of “land claims” involves RENT paid to them in perpetuity- rather than a one time settlement- natives want regular pay coming in- for drugs and alcohol! In another case a Catholic Toronto printer was asked to print up gay positive literature and declined- and was hauled into a Human Rights Kangaroo Court. In testimony the gay customer admitted the printer had been polite and apologetic in his refusal of the work and printer HAD supplied the names of other printers who WOULD do the work! No matter- the guy was judged as a hate criminal and fined! And yet last year in summer 2017 a Muslim Imam in Calgary publicly explained to his audience the circumstances under which it is acceptable for followers of Islam to KILL GAYS so they will not be able to continue their Godless and sinful ways! With our Human Rights/Kangaroo Courts happily ignoring such Muslim radicals! The hypocrisy is glaring and insulting!)

(AS for the wage gap between men and women- there is ample evidence to indicate it is false advertising- which LIE-beral bigots also IGNORE!)

Mehta bills himself as a free-speech advocate trying to build bridges across political divides, but critics say he perpetuates harmful stereotypes and is simply seeking attention.

(Yes- people who want logic and justice support Mehta while people who have an axe to grind and want to do it using govt grants want him arrested and silenced for the good of THEIR CAUSE! This is revisionist history of the sort beloved of Soviet style dictators- of the sort the Trudope family ADMIRES!)

“He’s just sort of parroting the much more popular Jordan Peterson. He’s very clearly just trying to piggyback on that to gain a certain notoriety,” said Matthew Sears, associate professor of classics and ancient history at the University of New Brunswick in Fredericton.

(In other words- LIE-berals have FAILED to bully Peterson into silence but do not want him to have MORE ALLIES!)

Peterson, a University of Toronto professor and best-selling author, has become a celebrity of the right for, among other things, steadfastly refusing to use gender-neutral terms.

Mehta, like Peterson a psychology professor, argues he has done nothing wrong, and is only trying to offer students a different perspective from what he calls the dominant political orientation on campus.

“I would have no problem if people refuted me and told me I was being unreasonable, that is perfectly fine. I would love it if students just told me I’m wrong,” the associate professor of psychology said.

(AS a psychology professor it would seem useful to persuade people to look honestly at their lives and to own up to any faults or failings they have! How can you persuade an alcoholic not to drink if the alcoholic blames others for all problems? After all, there is no situation that cannot be made WORSE by alcohol or drug addiction! This is a fact that natives ignore! White people CANNOT order natives not to drink or do drugs! And letting people think they are perpetual victims instead of persuading them that the reason they are unemployed and broke is because they believed that going to school and getting an education represents selling out to white people and this is a value system that is to often poisoning the lives of both natives and blacks!)

“I made sure I told students they wouldn’t be tested on the specific materials, I just want them to think about these concepts.”

Those concepts include gender equity and the wage gap, which he said can explained by people’s choices and differences between the sexes.

(Wilfred Laurier communications student Lindsey Shepherd inadvertently exposed the scale and scope of censorship on colleges and universities by playing that now famous clip about Peterson from TVO/The Agenda- that quietly fair and honest tv show that allows all sides to present their case for a FAIR hearing- and which Wilfred Laurier staff took offense at- honesty is NOT wanted at University now!)

Mehta pointed to a study that showed men prefer more competitive careers “whereas the women on average tended to prefer spending time in the community.”

(There is also the issue of women taking time off work to have children- thus halting their career progress! There is the issue of women being the primary care givers- with the married couple often setting things up so wife works shorter hours and tends to kids and the home while hubby works the longer hours to pay the bills! And yes- some women make more money and some men are stay at home dads but this is a function of modern technology and evolving public perceptions - not misogyny- as bigoted LIE-berals want to suggest!)

The university has a legal responsibility to provide an environment free from discrimination, sexual harassment and personal harassment.
Heather Hemming, Acadia University VP academic.

(Well sure! Who would argue in favour of “harassment”? Problem is that LIE-berals want to define harassment in SELFISH ways that the public OPPOSES!)

He said he would encourage debate from students, which would help them be critical thinkers and informed citizens.

But Sears called Mehta’s “free-speech absolutism” extreme, noting that free speech does not mean consequence-free speech. The university must weigh a professor’s right to free speech with a student’s right to be safe and supported in class, he noted.

“He does have a constitutional right to be an ignoramus about residential schools and even a racist if he wants to be, but he can’t do that and expect he can be an effective and fair and appropriate teacher for students,” Sears said. “You don’t have a constitutional right to be a university professor.”

(Sears means that Mehta cannot be “an effective and fair and appropriate teacher” for the kind of students that Sears thinks are acceptable graduates from her version of a Soviet re-education camp!)

Sears said Mehta is spending his time trying to be a controversial figure and an iconoclast — stepping outside his area of expertise — rather than teaching course material.

(To understand the workings of a damaged mind IS the business of people like Mehta and as a teacher he has an obligation to tell students what he knows! It appears as if Acadia staff are afraid Mehta will expose their failings and maybe they want to silence him to save themselves from embarrassment?)

“The idea that there is a power balance and equivalence between a professor and a student — let alone an Indigenous student in one of his classes — that they can just walk out and say to him he’s wrong” is problematic and disingenuous, he said.

Moreover, Sears argued that topics like decolonization and multiculturalism fall outside Mehta’s field of psychology, Sears said.

(LIE-berals are apparently tinkering with decolonization and multiculturalism for reasons of personal profit and emotional growth at the expense of others! LIE-berals cannot claim virtue for their grossly selfish policies!)

Meanwhile, Mehta said he is worried the investigation into his commentary may not lead to a fair outcome given the university has already taken steps to reduce his course load.

(Yes- it is the STANDARD SOVIET solution to those deemed trouble makers- starve them out! Take away their income and you limit their influence! Such tactics do not win arguments but they do END them- for a while- as Lindsey Shepherd and Jordan Peterson have shown us!)

After several years of teaching the large sections of the required introductory psychology courses, he said Acadia has changed his teaching allocation so that he’s teaching smaller courses.

He said the change is not warranted based on his record, and that he hasn’t been offered a satisfactory explanation despite an appeal.

(If I was Mehta I would NOT hold my breath while waiting for a reply from his embarrassed and angry LIE-beral superiors- they do not take well to being exposed as radicals!)
 

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Ironworkers bridge blockaded by Greenpeace rappelers. Several of them dropped down to near the water and strung a horizontal line between them blocking an oil tanker from moving under.

Quite a difficult little protest for the police to handle.
 

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Ironworkers bridge blockaded by Greenpeace rappelers. Several of them dropped down to near the water and strung a horizontal line between them blocking an oil tanker from moving under.

Quite a difficult little protest for the police to handle.
Hopefully they face serious charges .
 

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I agree the change is going to be measured in decades. It has been going on since the 1960s already,

Closer to the 1890 s when they started building electric cars.

Ironworkers bridge blockaded by Greenpeace rappelers. Several of them dropped down to near the water and strung a horizontal line between them blocking an oil tanker from moving under.

Quite a difficult little protest for the police to handle.

Costing taxpayers a bundle to deal with their illegal activities.