Trans Mountain ‘pipeline is going to get built’: Trudeau dismisses B.C.’s bitumen ban

[Twin_Moose]

Federal program funds summer job to help 'stop Kinder Morgan pipeline'

As Prime Minister Justin Trudeau continues to vow that the Kinder Morgan pipeline expansion "will be built," his government's summer jobs program is funding a position with an activist group working to stop the project.
A call for applications for an "organizing assistant," posted online by the non-profit group Dogwood B.C., says the job involves working to help the group's network "stop the Kinder Morgan pipeline and tanker project." It notes the position is funded by the federal Canada Summer Jobs Program.
The temporary full-time job is open to students. It pays $15 per hour for 9 to 12 weeks of work and is based in Vancouver.
But according to the organization receiving the funding, this kind of political push-and-pull is nothing new.
Group got funding from Harper government as well
Dogwood B.C. said it has received funding for such positions since 2010, under both the Trudeau and Stephen Harper governments. The organization even got the funding when it was fighting the Enbridge Northern Gateway project, which Harper supported.
Kai Nagata, Dogwood's communications director, said the group isn't certain yet how many students it will hire with the help of federal funding this year. He said that in past years, students have worked on other projects as well, including one to prevent U.S. thermal coal exports from moving through Vancouver.

"The federal government has never thought to impose its political agenda on kids canvassing in B.C. on environmental issues," said Nagata, who previously worked as a reporter for both CBC and CTV.
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In social media postings, Dogwood refers to Kinder Morgan as a "greedy, dangerous corporation." The group has organized a campaign to pressure Trudeau to not put public money behind the pipeline expansion.
Liberals cite 'free speech'
The Conservatives spent much of Wednesday's question period quizzing the government about the move.
"Does the prime minister not realize that paying groups to protest against these projects is exactly part of the problem?" asked Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer.
Trudeau pointed out that the group had received funding under the previous Conservative government before contrasting his party with theirs.
"Unlike — apparently — the leader of the Official Opposition, we believe in free speech. We believe in advocacy on this side of the House," said Trudeau.

In a statement, Labour Minister Patty Hajdu's office said the federal program funds nearly 70,000 summer positions with about 29,000 employers.
"These workplaces will represent an enormous variety of industries, causes, and types of work, none of which are taken into account in the application process, so long as the employer can confirm that the core mandate does not undermine human rights," said spokesperson Emily Harris.
'Discriminatory and fascist'
The Canada Summer Jobs Program has been the subject of considerable controversy this year. The government required applicants to check a box saying they support the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, including women's reproductive rights and LGBTQ rights.
Some religious leaders called the requirement an "ideology test" that is both "discriminatory and fascist."
The Canadian Civil Liberties Association has also questioned whether the requirement is constitutional.
Asked Tuesday about objections raised by some faith-based groups and other employers to the charter attestations, Hajdu said that "hundreds and hundreds" of faith-based groups still applied.
Her office said in March that, out of a total of 41,031 eligible applications received, 1,561 applications had been rejected — an increase of more than 1,300 over the previous year.
Hajdu's office did not say how many of those rejections happened because the applicant refused to attest support for reproductive or LGBTQ rights.

 

[petros]

Oh oh!

 

[Twin_Moose]

I don't know how to paste tweets here but this is pretty good

https://twitter.com/WBrettWilson/status/989222829827608576

 

[petros]

I don't know how to paste tweets here but this is pretty good

https://twitter.com/WBrettWilson/status/989222829827608576

I had to read this several times to be sure. #WTF!!

You can't make up this stuff.

Get this - @gmbutts & the @liberal_party have given summer student grants to @dogwoodbc to in turn PROTEST #KinderMorgan and #Transmountain

Do we still hang for treason?


Job Posting – Organizing Assistant (Canada Summer Jobs Program)
dogwoodbc.ca
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Dr_Brad_m
Dr_Brad_m
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Replying to @WBrettWilson @gmbutts and 2 others
This is right up there with me putting a cigarette vending machine in my waiting room!
Devin Hartzler
Devin Hartzler
@devmanwalkin
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Wow. Just wow! Just when you think this government can’t get any more incompetent.
Dr_Brad_m
Dr_Brad_m
@Dr_Brad_M
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The questions becomes, "what do we do when the east re-elects him next year?". I vote for a new nation called "Saskaberta"
Krp
Krp
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Its crazy, The east has to see that the Libs are looking to ruin the Country. It can't get any more obvious at this point
Lizzy
Lizzy
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Replying to @WBrettWilson @gmbutts and 2 others
They are using my tax dollars to fund anti pipeline activism?

Unaccountable authortarian socialists like @gmbutts are definitely in charge.

If the rule of law existed in Canada he would serve jail time for treason.
Mike Cey
Mike Cey
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So to be clear, my Catholic Church is denied funding from the Canada summer jobs program to hire Counsellors for a summer camp because you don't like our beliefs, the same program funds activist protestors opposed to our way of life, have I missed anything?
Doug Reimer
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but a faith based group can't get a summer jobs grant for camp counsellors, coaches etc to help support at risk youth, under privileged kids etc because they don't sign the acknowledgement to agree with a non-existent law

 

[JLM]

BREAKING: People in Victoria just started off the week by blocking access to the Canada Revenue Agency offices in the BC capital city.

This bold action is a demonstration of the massive opposition to Justin Trudeau's proposal for a multibillion dollar bail out for the Kinder Morgan pipeline funded by Canadian tax dollars.

These people are nuts!

 

[captain morgan]

I had to read this several times to be sure. #WTF!!

You can't make up this stuff.

Get this - @gmbutts & the @liberal_party have given summer student grants to @dogwoodbc to in turn PROTEST #KinderMorgan and #Transmountain

Do we still hang for treason?

Let the Libs continue their rapid descent into oblivion.

These actions, available for the public to view, will cause nothing more than derision to trudeau much like his many taxpayer sponsored family vacations, errr, I mean business trips.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Here comes an article to deflect off of the Libs.

Summer job program pays for pipeline protest

OTTAWA - The federal Liberal government found itself taking fire over the stalled Trans Mountain pipeline expansion from opposite flanks Wednesday: accused of helping to finance pipeline protesters on the one hand, and rigging the review system in favour of the project on the other.
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer led off question period with the revelation that one of the successful applicants to the government's Canada Summer Jobs program is a B.C. group looking to hire someone "to help ... stop the Kinder Morgan pipeline and tanker project."
"Does he not realize that he is funding the very groups that are protesting against the project that is in the national interest?" Scheer demanded.
"We are talking about taking tax dollars from people who are out of work in the energy sector and giving it to people who are trying to block a project in the national interest."
The B.C. group, Dogwood, however, has been receiving federal money for years — including from the previous Conservative government, Trudeau retorted.
"Unlike, apparently, the leader of the official Opposition, we believe in free speech," he said.
"On the issue of this particular advocacy group, it is important to highlight that it was also funded under the Harper government."
Dogwood spokesman Kai Nagata said the group has received funding under the program since 2010 and their work to stop pipeline projects has never previously been an issue.
The funding goes toward paying a university student who spends the summer doing outreach work on campaigns to stop oil tanker expansion on the B.C. coast, he said.
"That's never been an issue for the government in the past and the plan this year is to do the exact same thing," Nagata said.
The government has been under fire of late over the Canada Summer Jobs program — specifically a new requirement that organizations declare their support for the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, including women's reproductive rights.
Scheer tried to needle Trudeau on that count, as well: "There is nobody who believes that the prime minister is committed to free speech when he punishes all those in this country who do not agree with his personal point of view."
Trudeau seized on the chance to depict his rival as a kinder, gentler version of his predecessor.
"The commitment that this government has made to stand up and defend reproductive rights and the rights of women at every single opportunity is one that sticks in their craw," he said of the Conservatives.
"We will not apologize for ensuring that women's rights are protected across this country."
Scheer's question was far from the only Trans Mountain offensive the Liberals faced — indeed, question period has, of late, been dominated by the project, given what proponents say of its potential economic impact, as well as how it's likely to influence next year's federal election.
Kinder Morgan declared earlier this month it was halting all non-essential spending on the controversial expansion, which has been beset by protests and is at the centre of a fierce dispute between the governments of B.C. and Alberta.
The expansion — which B.C. is blocking — would twin an existing pipeline from Alberta's oilsands to Kinder Morgan's Westridge Marine Terminal in Burnaby, B.C., where diluted bitumen would be loaded onto oil tankers for export.
Earlier Wednesday, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and energy critic Guy Caron released a letter to Trudeau effectively accusing the Liberals of having decided to proceed with Trans Mountain well before the federal review process had completed its evaluation.
The letter cites recent media reports suggesting the government's decision to proceed was a purely political calculation, rather than a decision based on whether or not the project would indeed be in the national interest.
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"These revelations throw into question the legitimacy of the government's entire review as they point to an approval based on political interests," the letter reads.
"To address these serious concerns, we urge you to release all relevant documentation associated with the review process, including those subject to cabinet confidentiality."
Caron pressed the issue during question period, but Trudeau waved off the NDP's concerns.
"Under the previous government, the approach of not understanding how important it is to properly consult and engage in acquiring social licence needed to be fixed," he said.
"We actually added additional steps to make the process more rigorous. In fact, we extended the consultation process to ensure we were meeting and exceeding our responsibility to engage with and consult Indigenous people."
Trudeau has been unequivocal in declaring his government's support for the project — so much so that he has dispatched Finance Minister Bill Morneau to meet with Kinder Morgan to find a way to ensure the expansion remains financially viable.
He has also promised legislation to reaffirm the federal government's authority in deciding the fate of cross-boundary pipeline projects, although the details of what that bill will look like have not been released.
The idea behind Trans Mountain is to get Alberta's oilsands bitumen to tidewater, opening up new markets for Canada's oil beyond the U.S., its only real oil customer — a situation Trudeau says forces Canada to take a big hit on the price it gets.
Fearing the many environmental unknowns that surround diluted bitumen, or dilbit, B.C. wants to restrict the pipe's capacity until more is understood about how the material might behave in a marine environment, how it can be cleaned up and how a major spill might impact ocean life.
B.C. has said it plans to file a court reference by the end of April to determine if it can stop or restrict the flow of dilbit on the grounds of its own jurisdiction over environmental concerns.
Many environmental groups fear an increase in tanker traffic out of Burnaby along marine routes that are at times extremely narrow, worsening the risk of a major spill.
Trudeau has said he only approved the pipeline in the context of balancing the need for environmental protections with the need for economic growth. The government's $1.5-billion Oceans Protection Plan is designed to account for such spills, he said, suggesting the government would make additional investments if need be.

 

[Danbones]

Who said I shouldn't call them liebarrels anymore?

 

[JLM]

Yelling at the CRA building is going to what exactly?

Make a noise?

 

[Cliffy]

Happening NOW: New photo of major damage to an oil storage tank in Superior, Wisconsin. They are evacuating nearly the entire city.

Jasmine Clark I live here. It's pretty bad, but not as bad as it was. Evacuated from work and the entire city is under mandatory evacuations

http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/news/fires/4437298-superior-oil-refinery-rocked-explosions-fire

Ya, fukk kinder morgan, Justin and Alberia.

 

[petros]

It's over.

The fire was extinguished and evacuation called off at 6:45 p.m.,

Too bad it's irrelevant to a PIPELINE thread.

 

[Cliffy]

Storage facilities all along the pipeline and the expansion at Burnaby mountain which could spill into Burrard Inlet.

 

[petros]

And if it did would it be better or worse than a potash ship spilling in the Barnet leaving Pt Moody?

In the entire history of running 2 refineries on Barnet IOCO and Chevron has there been a sizeable disaster?

How is the fishing or crabbing in the Inlet these days?

Have you ever been there and enjoyed any of the parks or gone boating or have you seen it once or twice driving Hwy 7.

Be honest.

 

[Cliffy]

 

[petros]

I'll take that as a no which means if a spill or no spill it impacts you in no way, shape or form.

PS you can't build any wind or solar without fossil fuels.

 

[pgs]

Storage facilities all along the pipeline and the expansion at Burnaby mountain which could spill into Burrard Inlet.

The storage tanks on the south side of Burnaby Mountain ? The same ones that have been there all my life ?

 

[petros]

All his life too.

Out of all this oil over a century of refining and distribution in the Barnet and the South side of BBY Mtn how many barrels have ended up in the Inlet?

How did all that oil arrive in Pt Moody and Burnaby over the past century? Hot air balloons and pack mule?

There is no life in it anyway. Immigrants have poached it clean.

History of and current oil operations on the "pristine" industrial Inlet and Ports.

Of the four Burrard Inlet area refineries, Chevron's is the only one that is still operating as a refinery - the rest are now distribution terminals.

Chevron gets its crude from Alberta via the Kinder Morgan pipeline and makes 50,000 to 55,000 barrels of jet fuel, diesel, gasoline, asphalts, heating fuels, heavy fuel oils, butanes and propane each day. About half of that is shipped via Chevron's marine loading wharf. The refinery supplies 25 to 30 per cent of the province's gasoline, 25 per cent of the commercial diesel and 40 per cent of the jet fuel used at the Vancouver International Airport.

SUNCOR

Suncor runs Burrard Products Terminal, which was a refinery until 1993. The terminal straddles the Burnaby-Port Coquitlam border, on the south side of Burrard Inlet. Most of the facility's petroleum products are from the Alberta oil sands and arrive already refined via the Kinder Morgan pipeline.

Suncor distributes the products on land (by train and truck) and on water via barges. Most of their products are for domestic use.

SHELL

Shell used to run a refinery in North Burnaby until 1993, but now the site is a distribution terminal at the end of Kensington Avenue. (Western Canada Marine Response Corporation leases a building onsite to run its operations.)

The Shellburn Distribution Terminal has a dock where two to three vessels arrive per week; they are mostly barges dropping off product.

Shellburn gets its petroleum products already refined - via rail, barge or ship - but does not use the Kinder Morgan pipeline. The products come from the U.S. and Alberta.

Barges can also load up with products, like diesel, jet fuel and gasoline. Most of their products are for the Lower Mainland market, but they cater to some overseas customers as well.

IOCO

Ioco (short for Imperial Oil Company) has a distribution terminal in Port Moody, on the North side of the Burrard Inlet.

The terminal, which was a refinery until 1995, stores bulk petroleum products that are distributed via truck and on a marine loading terminal.

The main products are marine bunker fuel, marine diesel, asphalt and bulk lubricants.

Almost all of Ioco's products arrive via railcar and are stored in tanks before being loaded on trucks or barges.

A spokesperson for Imperial Oil, also known as Esso, said the terminal serves "Metro Vancouver and beyond" but declined to provide information on where the petroleum comes from.

103 years...

Ioco, an abbreviation of Imperial Oil Corporation,[1] is an area of Port Moody, British Columbia. It is located on the northern shore of the Burrard Inlet. Ioco was originally a townsite for an Imperial Oil refinery.

The refinery began operation in January 1915.

Believe it or not, Vancouver was once a major refining hub. Imperial Oil's IOCO refinery was built in the Vancouver suburb of Port Moody in 1914. Shell’s original Shellburn Refinery was constructed in North Burnaby in 1932 and expanded in 1945. Petro-Canada built an oil refinery in neighbouring Port Coquitlam in 1957.

Pristine

 

[Cliffy]

 

[DaSleeper]

Three facebook news in a row.......Cliffy is on a roll

 

[Twin_Moose]

Where is this Cliffy? and what did it leak from? It's in the third world because of lack of equipment for cleanup so do you have more info on this I would like to know