Toronto Terrorists - expected result of invasion

[Kreskin]

Re: RE: Toronto Terrorists - expected result of invasion

But Canada came close to what appears at this early stage a pretty significant terrorist attack.

How will they respond? Like Spain?

I think they'll react like Canadians. Not Spaniards, not Americans, not Russians. Canadians will expect CSIS, the RCMP and all agencies to do their jobs while respecting the rights and freedoms of Canadians.

 

[EagleSmack]

And so far it looks like all of those agencies did a great job so far in stopping this attack and they should be applauded.

I am wondering though, in the big picture, what Canada will do.

 

[mabudon]

RE: Toronto Terrorists -

Really tho at this point who knows what the supposed "plot" was??
What if they were organized, disgruntled employees who were only going to harmlessly (in a "lives lost" way) blow a piece of real-estate sky-high?? maybe block traffic and knock out a bridge or something to block the 407 (foreign-owned toll highway in southern ontario for those not from this area) as some kind of protest??

I'm not saying such a thing would be "right" so much, but if this has ANYTHING to do with our foreign policy (and I don't mean immigration policy, but actual outwards foreign policy) then it had better not be simply deciding where we think "these people" are coming from and blowing the crap outta it cos THAT would be the least effective way to deal with such a problem as domestic, foreign-political "terrorism"

 

[Colpy]

Re: RE: Toronto Terrorists -

Really tho at this point who knows what the supposed "plot" was??
What if they were organized, disgruntled employees who were only going to harmlessly (in a "lives lost" way) blow a piece of real-estate sky-high?? maybe block traffic and knock out a bridge or something to block the 407 (foreign-owned toll highway in southern ontario for those not from this area) as some kind of protest??

I'm not saying such a thing would be "right" so much, but if this has ANYTHING to do with our foreign policy (and I don't mean immigration policy, but actual outwards foreign policy) then it had better not be simply deciding where we think "these people" are coming from and blowing the crap outta it cos THAT would be the least effective way to deal with such a problem as domestic, foreign-political "terrorism"

You saw pictures of the Oklahoma bombing?

Many times that much is what these guys had.

And I don't like the phrase "domestic" terrorism, unless some of the bastards were BORN here...........otherwise they have Canadian citizenship under false pretenses.....obviously.

 

[mabudon]

RE: Toronto Terrorists -

now THAT's jumping to conclusions

 

[sanch]

Re: RE: Toronto Terrorists -

Really tho at this point who knows what the supposed "plot" was??

What if they were organized, disgruntled employees who were only going to harmlessly (in a "lives lost" way) blow a piece of real-estate sky-high?? maybe block traffic and knock out a bridge or something to block the 407 (foreign-owned toll highway in southern ontario for those not from this area) as some kind of protest??

I'm not saying such a thing would be "right" so much, but if this has ANYTHING to do with our foreign policy (and I don't mean immigration policy, but actual outwards foreign policy) then it had better not be simply deciding where we think "these people" are coming from and blowing the crap outta it cos THAT would be the least effective way to deal with such a problem as domestic, foreign-political "terrorism"[/quote]

It looks like there was an investigation and evidence was uncovered that included munitions as well as details about targets. That was the plot that led to the arrests. Without evidence and a working idea of the plot there would have been no basis for the arrests. And this all needs to be presented in a court and the plot connecting these elements has to be convincing for a judge.


You may want to work on the intelligibility of the highlighted paragraphs.

 

[mabudon]

RE: Toronto Terrorists -

Sorry man, I don't understand what you are saying at all- my posts don't make sense?? that's just sad, good ol ad hominem is alive and well, and you don't even have any sort of argument to present, just plain trying to tell me I don't make sense, good job

 

[sanch]

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Sorry man, I don't understand what you are saying at all- my posts don't make sense?? that's just sad, good ol ad hominem is alive and well, and you don't even have any sort of argument to present, just plain trying to tell me I don't make sense, good job

There was no ad hominem attack. And I did present the structure that will be presented in a Canadian court.

If you want to write in an unorthodox fashion with few sentences and such you run the risk of losing people. I have no idea what you were going on about.

What does this mean "harmlessly (in a "lives lost" way)"

What if they were organized, disgruntled employees who were only going to harmlessly (in a "lives lost" way) blow a piece of real-estate sky-high??

 

[dekhqonbacha]

Re: RE: Toronto Terrorists - expected result of invasion

But Canada came close to what appears at this early stage a pretty significant terrorist attack.

How will they respond? Like Spain?

Spain pulled out its troops and loosened immigration regulation.
I don't think Canada will do both of it.

 

[EagleSmack]

Actually Spain has tightened its immigration policies.

 

[dekhqonbacha]

Re: RE: Toronto Terrorists - expected result of invasion

Actually Spain has tightened its immigration policies.

I watched in CNN. The reporter said that Spain loosened. I thought that I didn't understand it well. Few days later they showed it again and I surely heard "loosened."

 

[EagleSmack]

There was a report recently of a Spanish Island that many people from Africa use as a point to get to and into Spain. Spain has recently stopped all immigrants from entering Spain via that island. I will go find the report and post the link.

Yes they pulled out of the war but they are not so stupid to allow a flood of people from these countries in to create additional havoc.

 

[Karlin]

Re: RE: Toronto Terrorists - expected result of invasion

They presented evidence that there was a plot to blow up targets in Toronto. What are the authorities supposed to do when they uncover a plot of this magnitude? They were not planning a pajama party.
If you disagree with the official version of this story what is your alternate version?

There are other possibilities:
1] Isn't it just so typical that this happens soon after Harper takes office, just a little quicker than Bush2 takes office until 9-11.
Thats one alternate - Harper sets this up, using heavily pressured Arab-Canadians who can save their families if they play along bla bla bla...

2]

What if they were organized, disgruntled employees who were only going to harmlessly (in a "lives lost" way) blow a piece of real-estate sky-high?? maybe block traffic and knock out a bridge or something to block the 407 (foreign-owned toll highway in southern ontario for those not from this area) as some kind of protest??

3] That they are the arabs from Canada the TV says they are, but we don't know their motives. Maybe they are friends/family of poppy farmers angry over eradication efforts [ that Canadian commaders said we would NOT do while over there]. Maybe they are family/friends of someone bombed in Afghanstan, not part of AL Queda, and this is a good point on getting our troops out.

4] That this fertilizer bomb was headed for America... a very likely possibility - assemble it in Canada might be safer, or so they thought.

If it is the way the TV says, then its really good to see our boys nab them, America should get off our backs about being lax now, and other Terrorists planning to assemble bombs in Canada will know we are not a safe place to do that.

And this is just what we should be doing. It works, mostly.

We also extend a hand in aid - keep it up wherever ordinary Afghan citizens 'who don't fight' want help.

We can also try better dialogue - ask them to show us some sign that they are going to leave us alone if we pull out of Afghanistan, a declaration that Canada is "off the list". Thats a start even if its an agreement that is easy to break.

 

[MMMike]

Re: RE: Toronto Terrorists - expected result of invasion

They presented evidence that there was a plot to blow up targets in Toronto. What are the authorities supposed to do when they uncover a plot of this magnitude? They were not planning a pajama party.
If you disagree with the official version of this story what is your alternate version?

There are other possibilities:
1] Isn't it just so typical that this happens soon after Harper takes office, just a little quicker than Bush2 takes office until 9-11.
Thats one alternate - Harper sets this up, using heavily pressured Arab-Canadians who can save their families if they play along bla bla bla...

Yeah, moron, CSIS has been tracking these guys since 2004. And 9-11 was planned for years, long before Bush got into office. Not to mention the Kenya bombings, WTC take 1, USS Cole etc.... Are you totally blind????

2]

What if they were organized, disgruntled employees who were only going to harmlessly (in a "lives lost" way) blow a piece of real-estate sky-high?? maybe block traffic and knock out a bridge or something to block the 407 (foreign-owned toll highway in southern ontario for those not from this area) as some kind of protest??

:roll: No doubt that's what they had in mind. The fact that they were all radical muslims is totally coincidence, right? :roll:

3] That they are the arabs from Canada the TV says they are, but we don't know their motives. Maybe they are friends/family of poppy farmers angry over eradication efforts [ that Canadian commaders said we would NOT do while over there]. Maybe they are family/friends of someone bombed in Afghanstan, not part of AL Queda, and this is a good point on getting our troops out.

Their motive obviously was to bring their jihad here to Canada...

4] That this fertilizer bomb was headed for America... a very likely possibility - assemble it in Canada might be safer, or so they thought.

If it is the way the TV says, then its really good to see our boys nab them, America should get off our backs about being lax now, and other Terrorists planning to assemble bombs in Canada will know we are not a safe place to do that.

:roll: Yeah, I'm sure that's it. It's much easier to drive a truck loaded with fertilizer and fuel across the border isn't it. Get your head out of your ass - innocent Canadians were the target. Don't make excuses for these f*cks. :evil:

and this is just what we should be doing. It works, mostly.

We also extend a hand in aid - keep it up wherever ordinary Afghan citizens 'who don't fight' want help.

We can also try better dialogue - ask them to show us some sign that they are going to leave us alone if we pull out of Afghanistan, a declaration that Canada is "off the list". Thats a start even if its an agreement that is easy to break.

What a coward. Yes, it is ok, in fact, it is necessary to question our work in Afghanistan to make sure we are there for the right reasons. But is is NEVER ok to negotiate with terrorists. NEVER. What message does that send?

 

[nelk]

Is it just me, or do I see a diminishing of facts here?

By tomorrow this issue has evaporated, if you follow the logic of some,and only the dust of "we the western nations" are the real guilty
will be left.
Appeasing, bending backwards to suit ones twisted moral ideas and values is it?
Looks grotesque;
and BTW missing alot of other political correct posters.

When ever things get hot here; and I talking about real issues not wreck beach stuff a sudden silence falls over the land.
It is just me
Good night sleep well
nelk
:roll:

 

[#juan]

These terrorists,

(what else do you call people who accumulate tons of ammonia nitrate) were not naughty school boys. According to police they had targets picked out that could have killed hundreds, maybe thousands of people. What I don't understand is that these people, for the most part, came from successful families. Families that found a good life in Canada. Are the Mullas the problem? Are the Mullas fanning the flames that drive people to these extremes? If they are, throw them out of the country.

 

[dekhqonbacha]

EagleSmack
I agree with you. NOW Spain and even France are tightening immigration.

But after Madrid bombing, surprisingly spanish governement had given more opporitnities for illigal immigrants to become residents.

NOW it's quite different, I agree with you.

 

[Colpy]

These terrorists,

(what else do you call people who accumulate tons of ammonia nitrate) were not naughty school boys. According to police they had targets picked out that could have killed hundreds, maybe thousands of people. What I don't understand is that these people, for the most part, came from successful families. Families that found a good life in Canada. Are the Mullas the problem? Are the Mullas fanning the flames that drive people to these extremes? If they are, throw them out of the country.

I am not sure, Juan, but I suspect you are dead on about some (and I do mean a very few) of the mullahs.

They'd be much happier in Pakistan...........

 

[Jersay]

Now I was reading somewhere that it might be criminal what they were doing and not terroristic in nature.

So until the whole story is proven could they be in the Marijuna stuff. You know, some of those guys have heavy weaponry and such. Probably not but maybe a possibility.

 

[Colpy]

Now I was reading somewhere that it might be criminal what they were doing and not terroristic in nature.

So until the whole story is proven could they be in the Marijuna stuff. You know, some of those guys have heavy weaponry and such. Probably not but maybe a possibility.

Three TONS of nitrate fertilizer?

That's a hell of a protection racket.

Funny too, I never heard of a mob with members named Ali, Jamil, Mohammed, and Abu...........