Tony says legalize drugs

Praxius

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From the Thread title....who is "Tony" ???

 

JLM

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Too messy! Watch more gangster movies to get your fill of blood. Or vampire movies.

That seems to hurt profits. Let's send the profits to the govt and public, rather than gangs.

Easily remedied- just throw them into a pen full of hogs first- they'll clean them up! :lol:
 

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You can make peanut butter illegal but people are still going to eat it. There has to be more to it.
If you make things illegal with harsh penalties it creates all kinds of additional problems that are
far worse than the drug use in and of itself.
People using drugs become more isolated therefore they are less likely to get help.
Drug addicts are at the mercy of some of the most evil people on the planet.
When that happens we end up with beatings, abuse, murder, gangs, executions other than murder,
rape, prostitution, increased property damage and theft, and a host of other violent crimes.
In many cases the drugs themselves pale in comparison to how we react to them.

Governments see the safe streets example and declare war on drugs what a joke. The fallout from
the war as mentioned above clearly demonstrates society is not winning that one. Governments
build more prisons and load up the sentences of those convicted. The problem is punishment does
not work. The fear of imprisonment is not a deterrent as addicts are too stoned to care or they are
trying to commit a successful crime to get their next fix.

Preventing crime comes through education, and a healthy economy are more productive methods
than prison, judges and police. The problem is those who but for the grace of God could have the
same problem feel too self righteous and insecure to even honestly discuss the issue and accept
some different approaches. And others, they say its not logical. Tell me honestly what is logical
about people using drugs or people getting stoned everyday? This isn't about logic its about taking
positive action to help people with a serious medical problem that costs all of us billions. Let us all
get beyond our superior feelings and start understanding just how serious the problem really is.
We will never prevent drug use, we will never punish addicts into submission so we had better get
our heads out of the sand and look for some real solutions, while we assist those addicted to get
the help they need.
Whitney Houston for example, its not that she died, the real issue is what could have been done to
help her? That question is still not any where near being answered.
 

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Until almost the mid thirties cocaine was legal dentists used it at times.
Prohibition in booze led to the other drugs being illegal so the FBI had a
reason to exist and the game has gone on ever since.
 

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Until almost the mid thirties cocaine was legal dentists used it at times.
Prohibition in booze led to the other drugs being illegal so the FBI had a
reason to exist and the game has gone on ever since.

I didn't know coke was legal till the '30s. Seems like I was born too early. I got a shot of morphine when I had a kidney stone, it was awesome. Now you'll tell me morphine was once legal.

Sure, blame the USA for all the problems in the world. Maybe Iran will bomb them soon, or invade'em.
 

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Until almost the mid thirties cocaine was legal dentists used it at times.
Prohibition in booze led to the other drugs being illegal so the FBI had a
reason to exist and the game has gone on ever since.

Heck, Coca-Cola once contained heroin, miniscule amounts - but there all the same - until 1929. As a matter of fact, heroin was an ingredient in many patent medicines of the 19th century and when Coca-Cola first hit the market it was as a medicine.
 

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Here is a different perspective of drug use - the sacred and how modern medicine took these sacred substances and refined them into powerful and addictive substances that plague modern society. Perhaps it is time to promote the responsible use of mind altering drugs to seek beyond the mundane, the way they were used for thousands of years, instead of for recreational use. Very interesting and thoughtful documentary from the History channel.

History Channel: Ancient Drugs - YouTube!
 

shadowshiv

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Drug abuse is a medical problem. Making drugs illegal makes it harder for people to seek help because of the social stigma attached. By making people criminals you create an underground sub-culture where people are afraid of exposure to the dominant culture because of rejection, judgement and bigotry. We isolate addicts by criminalizing them. It is time to make all drugs legal and treat the problem as a medical one. With the billions saved on law enforcement, court time and prisons, we can afford to give the stuff to junkies and we would eliminate all the crime associated with drugs including B&Es. It just makes better sense than the stupidity of the present atmosphere around drugs.

I hope they never legalize certain drugs. Crack cocaine, heroin, speed, etc.

They want to legalize(or decriminalize) pot, that is fine. But the other ones? No. I would prefer the billions being spent of law enforcement, court time and prisons. It's not like the only criminals are the ones taking drugs. And making the drugs legal won't stop people from B&E. They B&E because they can't afford the drugs, not because the drug is illegal. Making it legal wouldn't make a difference. And why shouldn't the addicts face any culpability for what they do while either high or while trying to get the next fix? We should pay for them all to get better? Sorry, but I don't think that will be happening.

From the Thread title....who is "Tony" ???

Tony Bennett. He said that if drugs were legalized then Whitney wouldn't have died.
 

Walter

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Yeah, in the 1920s, pot was legal and used as medicine. But you can't patent a plant, so big pharma made it illegal and reaped the ensuing massive profits.
The conspiracy theorists are here again.

Until almost the mid thirties cocaine was legal dentists used it at times.
Prohibition in booze led to the other drugs being illegal so the FBI had a
reason to exist and the game has gone on ever since.
Like I said.
 

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It's hardly a conspiracy theory; look what the prohibition on alcohol achieved.

I know you're busy sucking off your favorite conservative, but when you do come up for air, at least try to think.