Time Editor Admits Its The Morons Who Elected Obama

[SLM]

- Serryah ... I appreciate the more measured tone of your response here and had you adopted the same tone in your initial post then so too would I.

- I'm not going to respond at length to your post simply because I have had more than enough of the verbal gang banging on the part of the moronic (low information and high trougher entitlement) left wing cabal of cowardly f$cks who have decided to label me as racist because I have offered up fact based criticisms of Obama and so I am calling it a day here. You can read my post in this regard on the thread titled Quit Picking on Obama and you probably should.

- But I shall respond to this one comment you make about having no TV and avoiding watching online TV shows. Since close to two billion was spent on the TV commercials of the two presidential candidates and the campaign was fought primarily on TV and through these commercials, you obviously cannot really make an intelligent informed fact based comment on who ran the dirtiest campaign. Yet this did not slow you down a nonosecond in jumping on me for claiming Obama had the dirtiest campaign nor did it restrain you from siding with Obama and stating that Romney had the most dishonest and dirty campaign.

- In other words, Serryan, you have been brain washed by your left wing pals in person and/or in whatever internet or other media from which you do get your information. Maybe you should try to gather a more balanced array of news and analysis before automaticvally going to the default left wing positon on issues about which you have no direct knowledge at all such as this one.

- Anyhow, the loony left wins again because I am not a racist and will not participate in a forum in which numerous posters eagerly jump on me with this disgusting smear and nobody bothers to defend me in that regard.

Ah Teddy, for what it's worth, I do not think you are a racist. I'm not quite sure what you are but racist I can cross off the list.

What I do see is that you refuse to see how every time you broadly brand an entire group of people as 'brainwashed morons' you are effectively pitting yourself against them. This is the reason everyone "gangs up on you", it's a reaction of people who are really tired of being spoken to the way you choose to speak to people. Hell even people who I know agree with the principles of your postings feel inclined to lash back at you. I really wish you could see it, but I guess you just don't want to.

I hope you can enjoy some love and good wishes during this holiday season. Sadly, until you open your eyes and see that it's not what you are saying that is at issue but how you are saying it, you will not find that here.

But Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you anyway.

 

[Praxius]

Do you know what a person for the center, is Teddy?

*raises hand*

I know.... it's one er dem fence sitting folk who don't pick sides like dem Swissy'French Hippies you hear about on duh Donahue Show.

Now excuse me whilst I gets High:

- I don't hate Obama but I do know that he was the most unqualified person in modern history to win the presidency and that he has been an unmitigated disaster as president, that he and his gang of Chicago mugs, thugs and slugs ran a disgusting and duplicitous re-election campaign and, that he will further weaken the US economy over the next four years and that we in Canada will feel some of the resulting pain....

You sure you didn't mix Obama up with this guy:

I don't know how you could have mixed them up.... one's black, the other's white....

Maybe this will refresh your memory:

- Do try to read the following column all by yourself, leaving your left wing biases at the door, and reading slowly and carefully using your lips and fingers as needed.

My god you're such a hypocrite.... and you wonder why nobody takes you seriously in here?

You wonder why you keep getting sh*t flung your way after you continually do the same thing?

Do you ever wonder why your threads never really evolve into any worthwhile discussion??

No?

Not surprising. :roll:

Here's a hint for ya buddy.... most in here don't specifically hate Republicans or Conservatives as a whole.... most in here just hate people like you.

Why?

Because you're always right and know better than everybody else?

Hardly.

It's because you go on the attack and blindly trash the crap out of everybody around you before any meaningful discussion was even created, thus doomed to get constant attacks and snipes the moment you click the post button.

You don't understand how to hold, let alone create a mature and civil discussion. While so many in here continually try to give you a chance and cut you some slack, you just take those opportunities to trash and attack even more.

It's like you're some kid who keeps sticking his hand in the fire so often that you burned it down to a stump, yet still haven't learned anything and keep on doing it.

Sometimes I wonder why you just keep going on the way you do.

Some "Might" say an attitude like yours "Could" be attributed to being dropped a few times as a baby.....

I'd attribute it more to being dribbled like a basketball as a baby.

 

[CDNBear]

My god you're such a hypocrite.... and you wonder why nobody takes you seriously in here?

You wonder why you keep getting sh*t flung your way after you continually do the same thing?

Do you ever wonder why your threads never really evolve into any worthwhile discussion??

No?

Not surprising. :roll:

The irony is palpable.

Merry Christmas and welcome back Prax.

 

[Praxius]

The irony is palpable.

I wouldn't know..... I have at times admitted my mistakes and admitted when I was wrong.... I usually start off discussions not attacking any specific group of people in any generalized manner (unless to prove a point based on previous attacks made by another ground, ie: my religious thread counter)

I at least try and create a topic for people to discuss/debate. Half or more of the time, I present a question at the start of a thread and then don't post my own opinion until a few posts later on, after others get to set the stage.

I don't take these forums seriously and I don't give a rats *** what others in here think of me.

I'm not in here to make friends.... yet I also don't have the need to attack and continually fling crap at others.

I can actually start other threads that don't continually focus on one thing or one person over and over again.

Perhaps the Irony you speak of is yourself, as you seem to create about as much worthwhile substance in these forums as Teddy and go on the attack towards most other members as much as he does.

Who says you can't feed two trolls at once? ;-)

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Really? No Morons voted for the guy who puts his dog on his roof to go on vacation and beleives he has magic underwear and that Jesus Christ came to the America's? Really?

 

[CDNBear]

I wouldn't know.....

No doubt.

Not surprising.

... yet I also don't have the need to attack and continually fling crap at others.

LOL...

Perhaps the Irony you speak of is yourself, as you seem to create about as much worthwhile substance in these forums as Teddy and go on the attack towards most other members as much as he does.

Nice attack.

Who says you can't feed two trolls at once? ;-)

I was only feeding you, you should learn to count.

Merry Christmas.

 

[damngrumpy]

What is the feeling here, lets see only one person agrees that all the others are
brainwashed or stupid. That includes those who are liberal, conservative and
middle of the road. Only one person believes they are right and everyone else
is wrong.
I agree that the great inside old boys club is upset they have run the country for
over two hundred years and now the people who they let in to do the cooking
and cleaning and picking the fruit and vegetables want their say.
Remember all the folks that came in chains, they now have population centers
and they have a voice. They have joined with the cooks and cleaners and the
candle stick makers. Remember the people who were used and abused when
building the railroad? Remember all the Native populations that were pushed
aside and given the worst land, that has the most minerals on it? Remember
the lower class of poor white folks that were not better off in education or jobs?
Well the upper middle class and rich white guys forgot about them even Romney
who said on video we won't worry about them they are only forty eight percent.
After the recession of two thousand and eight the percentage is higher.
Well those folks all woke up one morning and voted for something other than the
old rich white guys. Can't have that. Maybe its because the pixie dust of trickle
down wore off and they didn't care about brainwashing or anything else.
It is the day the huddled masses that were welcomed decided to rearrange the
national furniture. Expect more of the same, as more and more of those left
behind have discovered that voting counts and the old rich white guys will now
have to adapt. You are not a racist Teddy, I don't believe you are you just don't
see the big picture. You don;t understand "being part of the rabble is in" and
the old boys club has no idea as to what the hell has happened their idealist
pixie dust has lost its potion Oh and Merry Christmas

 

[JLM]

You are not a racist Teddy, I don't believe you are you just don't
see the big picture. You don;t understand "being part of the rabble is in" and
the old boys club has no idea as to what the hell has happened their idealist
pixie dust has lost its potion Oh and Merry Christmas

No, he's definitely not a racist.............I doubt if he could even find the starting line!

 

[L Gilbert]

lol I agree. No racism in Ted that I've noticed. Just the usual extreme-right (bordering on lunatic), hypocritical, unbalanced, and subjective rhetoric and propaganda.

 

[JLM]

lol I agree. No racism in Ted that I've noticed. Just the usual extreme-right (bordering on lunatic), hypocritical, unbalanced, and subjective rhetoric and propaganda.

And those are his good points!

 

[Serryah]

- But I shall respond to this one comment you make about having no TV and avoiding watching online TV shows. Since close to two billion was spent on the TV commercials of the two presidential candidates and the campaign was fought primarily on TV and through these commercials, you obviously cannot really make an intelligent informed fact based comment on who ran the dirtiest campaign. Yet this did not slow you down a nonosecond in jumping on me for claiming Obama had the dirtiest campaign nor did it restrain you from siding with Obama and stating that Romney had the most dishonest and dirty campaign.

- In other words, Serryan, you have been brain washed by your left wing pals in person and/or in whatever internet or other media from which you do get your information. Maybe you should try to gather a more balanced array of news and analysis before automaticvally going to the default left wing positon on issues about which you have no direct knowledge at all such as this one.

- Anyhow, the loony left wins again because I am not a racist and will not participate in a forum in which numerous posters eagerly jump on me with this disgusting smear and nobody bothers to defend me in that regard.

I see your comment and raise you one, eh?

Teddy, just because I don't watch TV, or online TV, doesn't mean I'm not informed. I do something called read, and I read a lot. I read websites, I read blogs, I read news sites from BOTH sides of things, both before the election, during and since. And as I said, I AGREE that both sides did have horrible campaign tactics - personally I hate the hate slinging both sides do in the US and in Canada - but of them all, I see Romney as running the worse one simply for the fact that, well, his facts were fiction. AKA, he LIED, a lot, and parroted to his bases and got caught doing so. That's not to say Obama was squeaky clean, he wasn't, he just made himself out to be less of a fool than Romney, enough to get elected.

I didn't "jump" on you, Teddy. I stated my opinion and I believe I stated so in a more polite form than you have so far to me or anyone else of the same opinion. After all, I've only said you were a troll, but you've been branding anyone who disagrees with you with moron and much more.

Again, Teddy, I'm not "left" wing, nor do I have left wing pals. Why you keep automatically believing I'm left is beyond me. Do I have left ideals? Yes, but I also have Right wing ideals, centrist ideals and others as well. I am not solely Liberal/Left.

And seeing as I DO look at other sources than "left wing media" - at least I read them to give them the benefit of the doubt - you really need to stop assuming things. Actually, I rather stick to media that presents a more balanced, neither left or right focus on things. AKA someone that would give either side the "what for" that they deserve, and not just someone that panders to one or the other.

Now, as to the link you gave, I did read the article. I even re-read it just now and on the second reading, it seems more that the author is saying the Obama campaign won because undecided or uncertain people stayed home or didn't vote for Romney due to his attack ads, which, in all truth, is quite likely. However, there doesn't even seem to be a hint of the idea that Romney ran a horrible campaign and just couldn't compare to how Obama's people did things. When you look at the two and how they ran things, there is a huge difference. Party excitement can only go so far. More people were dedicated to Obama than Romney and in the end, had Romney had anything like Obama's ground force and his organization, he just might be President. He didn't, and that's his own fault. He relied on an untried app, he relied on too few organizers and volunteers, and relied on too few people in the areas where there was still uncertainty of who to vote for, focusing on strongholds instead.

Add to that the comments given by other readers who know the site, I have to question the fact that this sounded more like an opinion piece of butthurt than actual fact and research.

Lastly, race was never the issue IMO; if others have that issue with you so be it, but I don't. I'd rather just know why you, personally, seem to hate Obama and have issues with the man; your own words and not the words of others. *shrugs*

 

[Mowich]

i see your comment and raise you one, eh?

teddy, just because i don't watch tv, or online tv, doesn't mean i'm not informed. I do something called read, and i read a lot. I read websites, i read blogs, i read news sites from both sides of things, both before the election, during and since. And as i said, i agree that both sides did have horrible campaign tactics - personally i hate the hate slinging both sides do in the us and in canada - but of them all, i see romney as running the worse one simply for the fact that, well, his facts were fiction. Aka, he lied, a lot, and parroted to his bases and got caught doing so. That's not to say obama was squeaky clean, he wasn't, he just made himself out to be less of a fool than romney, enough to get elected.

I didn't "jump" on you, teddy. I stated my opinion and i believe i stated so in a more polite form than you have so far to me or anyone else of the same opinion. After all, i've only said you were a troll, but you've been branding anyone who disagrees with you with moron and much more.

Again, teddy, i'm not "left" wing, nor do i have left wing pals. Why you keep automatically believing i'm left is beyond me. Do i have left ideals? Yes, but i also have right wing ideals, centrist ideals and others as well. I am not solely liberal/left.

And seeing as i do look at other sources than "left wing media" - at least i read them to give them the benefit of the doubt - you really need to stop assuming things. Actually, i rather stick to media that presents a more balanced, neither left or right focus on things. Aka someone that would give either side the "what for" that they deserve, and not just someone that panders to one or the other.

Now, as to the link you gave, i did read the article. I even re-read it just now and on the second reading, it seems more that the author is saying the obama campaign won because undecided or uncertain people stayed home or didn't vote for romney due to his attack ads, which, in all truth, is quite likely. However, there doesn't even seem to be a hint of the idea that romney ran a horrible campaign and just couldn't compare to how obama's people did things. When you look at the two and how they ran things, there is a huge difference. Party excitement can only go so far. More people were dedicated to obama than romney and in the end, had romney had anything like obama's ground force and his organization, he just might be president. He didn't, and that's his own fault. He relied on an untried app, he relied on too few organizers and volunteers, and relied on too few people in the areas where there was still uncertainty of who to vote for, focusing on strongholds instead.

Add to that the comments given by other readers who know the site, i have to question the fact that this sounded more like an opinion piece of butthurt than actual fact and research.

Lastly, race was never the issue imo; if others have that issue with you so be it, but i don't. I'd rather just know why you, personally, seem to hate obama and have issues with the man; your own words and not the words of others. *shrugs*

Rock on, serryah.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Ted, I'm sure, like everyone else here, you have seen this:

Off-limits: Personal attacks, cursing, anything 18+, adult-themed comments. Follow the forum rules.

Going forward, you set the tone for the responses to your posts all on your own.
This is just from the handful of posts in this Thread alone:

... from a lefty moron and Obama worshipper....

... I gave you a reddy in response to your reddy, childish moron.

....you hopeless A-Holes....

....you aren`t worth the effort.

- I can't return the favour and take you seriously because anyone who made the remarks you just made is either a gullible and ill informed idiot of the sort Obama got out to vote for him and/or is on the Obama/public sector payroll....

....Do try to read the following column all by yourself, leaving your left wing biases at the door, and reading slowly and carefully using your lips and fingers as needed....

...you are too lazy, stupid and uninformed to....you can be a real piece of human excrement.....

...on the part of the moronic (low information and high trougher entitlement) left wing cabal of cowardly f$cks who.....

If you're going to ignore the rules yourself, and others respond back to you in turn,
even if it's with a tamed down level of the vitriol you are projecting, I agree that two
wrongs don't make a right....but it wouldn't happen in the first place if, when you
yourself are posting, followed the line right above the box you're typing into:

Off-limits: Personal attacks, cursing, anything 18+, adult-themed comments. Follow the forum rules.

I hope this makes sense for you, as without the vitriol & condescendingly ignorant
language you use to address others on this Forum, you do present a different view
point on which to observe another side of certain issues that others might not have
thought of. You have the potential to make this a richer place to exchange ideas, but
currently cancel that out with your entitlement in behaving outside the rules of civil
decorum, yet expecting others to respond to you within those same boundaries.

 

[JLM]

Ted, I'm sure, like everyone else here, you have seen this:

Off-limits: Personal attacks, cursing, anything 18+, adult-themed comments. Follow the forum rules.

Going forward, you set the tone for the responses to your posts all on your own.
This is just from the handful of posts in this Thread alone:

Yep, he doesn't really submit Mensa scholar material!-

 

[TeddyBallgame]

1/Going forward, you set the tone for the responses to your posts all on your own.

2/ If you're going to ignore the rules yourself, and others respond back to you in turn,
even if it's with a tamed down level of the vitriol you are projecting, I agree that two
wrongs don't make a right....but it wouldn't happen in the first place if, when you
yourself are posting, followed the line right above the box you're typing into:

3/ I hope this makes sense for you, as without the vitriol & condescendingly ignorant
language you use to address others on this Forum, you do present a different view
point on which to observe another side of certain issues that others might not have
thought of. You have the potential to make this a richer place to exchange ideas, but
currently cancel that out with your entitlement in behaving outside the rules of civil
decorum, yet expecting others to respond to you within those same boundaries.

- RIR ... Since I am no longer interested in posting original content or anything else here and am now in the withdrawal phase which is reading but not posting, I was going to scan and then ignore your remarks. But we are snowed in here in the GTA (snowed in in the GTA means about 10 cms. of snow and -5 temperatures which is a far cry from Saskatchewan and from Gimli, Manitoba about 60 miles north of Winnipeg where I spent three years in the mid 50s and the January daily high would be minus 40 and five foot snow banks would surround me on the walk to school) so I've got some time to spare and also I have found you to be one of the most fair and open minded and civilized members here so allow me to respond to your comments.

1. Well, I got off to a bad start here in the US politics forum with some critical posts about Obama's lack of qualifications to be president, his unprecedented failures as president and the dirtiness of his campaign (as the Wall Street Journal editorial headlined it t the day after he won "Winning Ugly"). Since Obama is even more popular up here than he is in the US (up here he'd have won well over 70% of the vote instead of just over 50%) and since this board seems skewered to the left and the public sector even more than the country at large is, several members decided to jump all over me in the hope of driving me away from the board. Somewhat to their surprise, I didn't run away nor did I back down from proven facts and stats and assessments of mine as well as those of very credible US journalists, some of them even liberal Democrats, regarding Obama and his first term and Romney's "sterling" (as Bill Clinton put it) record and also the disgusting and dishonest demonization of the GOP candidate who, as legendary GE CEO Jack Welch put it "was the best qualified candidate for president in my lifetime". Incidentally, I recommend that you read liberal political columnist and icon Bob Woodward's new book on Obama's first term for an intelligent and authoritative critique of the president and his team. As Woodward summarizes things, a president deals or should deal with the most pressing and important issues facing the nation and Obama has failed to do this.

- Anyhow, I gave as good and even better than I got since the majority of the posters here preferred to exchange insults rather than to do the tough stuff of intelligent and informed discussion of the actual issues. So, regrettably, I believe that there is so much water under the bridge that even if I adopted the tone of Mother Theresa going forward, it would not be enough to encourage others to respond in an adult and substantive fashion and in accordance with the rules that, as you say, must apply to us all.

2. While I understand your point, I do not agree with it. It is one thing to call an idea or an argument or even a person stupid or erroneous or misinformed or moronic. We all say some stupid, erroneous and misinformed things and on a daily basis and sometimes the proof is abundantly evident concerning some of our erroneous comments. But it is quite another thing to charge a person - without a shred of credible or even any other evidence - with being a racist or a rapist or a mass murderer or with other despicable behaviour. This is really beyond the pale and not in the least morally equivalent to calling someone stupid, at least as far as I am concerned. I have done many things in my life to oppose and combat racism and have spent time and money and taken career risks in this regard and have befriended and lived with people of other races both here and in Africa and despise those people who actually are racist. If you take the time to read the serial attacks on me as a racist of all things in this thread perhaps you will understand why I am so peed off about the whole thing. Stupid just rolls off my back. I know what my intelligence level is and what I have done with my intelligence and other strengths and so some anonymous pipsqueek calling me stupid without a shred of evidence is simply a laughing matter to me. But being called a racist is not and I would sue the vile and cowardly bastards who did so if they said such a dreadful thing to my face.

3. Thanks for writing that I do have the potential to make this board a richer place in terms of the exchange of ideas and I also appreciate locutus`s recent post that I am one of the very few here who comes up with regular and worthwhile original content. But it seems to me that on this board more than most there is very little value afforded to original content and to the exchange of ideas. Sadly, it appears that most posters are here to engage in vanity postings and to regurgitate ad infinitum their particular political prejudices regardless of facts, data and reason. Therefore, I am not expecting to be missed by many but perhaps you are one of those who will miss my posts so let me say as a sometime westerner in Alberta and Manitoba Adios.

 

[gerryh]

- Sadly, it appears that most posters are here to engage in vanity postings and to regurgitate ad infinitum their particular political prejudices regardless of facts, data and reason.

I just couldn't resist quoting the hypocrisy.

 

[JLM]

- Sadly, it appears that most posters are here to engage in vanity postings and to regurgitate ad infinitum their particular political prejudices regardless of facts, data and reason. Therefore, I am not expecting to be missed by many but perhaps you are one of those who will miss my posts so let me say as a sometime westerner in Alberta and Manitoba Adios.

Most of your posts are "ad infinitim" personified.-

 

[WLDB]

I didn't know any republicans voted for Obama. If they did it would prove that not all republicans are morons.

Colin Powell did endorse him. Though I dont know if he voted for him or not.

 

[Locutus]

Unfortunately for anyone that is butthurt or piling-on, Teddy has just as much right to be here as anyone else. You wanna jaw with him, be my guess. He's pretty good. If y'all start poking each other with e-sticks don't come crying to me. Live and let live and avail yourselves of the ignore button if the kitchen gets too warm.

I'll also add that nonchalant and flippant rhetorical remarks trying to label a member here a racist will not get you into our good books. Godwinianism, regardless of it's flavour doesn't look good on anyone.

 

[DaSleeper]

One thing you must give old Teddy.....he ain't no hypocrite ...pretending to be neutral....there is no doubt on which side of the fence he stands8O