He can... and he did. Keep running your mouth to a judge and they can keep adding days and fines as simple as that.
Apparently not.
Quite a different attitude I'd say.
Opiates are a scourge
Thirty days for giving the Judge the finger....
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He can... and he did. Keep running your mouth to a judge and they can keep adding days and fines as simple as that.
Apparently not.
Quite a different attitude I'd say.
Opiates are a scourge
I'm already aware of how you feel about people that make you look stupid and point out the stupidity in your posts. It doesn't surprise me that you would feel the same about a position of authority that you have no understanding of.
No it wasn't. He was making a point.
Working with at risk youth, I see Judges take routes like this all the time when dealing with kids that refuse to grasp the seriousness of where they are and where they're headed.
After she apologized, he vacated the 30 day sentence, she voluntarily entered a drug treatment program, upon completion her charges will be dropped and she'll have no criminal record.
Why?
Because the Judge isn't being petty, emotional or a d*ck, he's trying to dispense justice.
If you spent more time trying to learn about the justice system we do have, instead of the giant conspiratorial justice system you think we have, you wouldn't fill threads on legal matter with as much rampant unchecked idiocy as you do.
Yes, a very immature and uneducated one. In fact it would appear that Penelope is a more mature person, go figure.
Yes I read your out of context misquote. I was ignoring it because you get all upset, call me names and swear when I point out the stupidity you post.
You have an issue with reality.
Is there any question? Lucky she didn't get 30 months!
Can't agree Nick, when you are in court the judge is the boss.
That guy has a problem with authority.......except at work (in another thread)
I suspect that in real life he's a d*ck head foreman...
I was a foreman for a while as it happens, I was also a project manager for some time. My crews were productive and happy and we finished ahead of schedule & underbudget on 8/11 projects where I had those roles. I could certainly be a harda$$ if needed (like firing a new hire after 3 days for not bringing workboots) but it was rare. My guys new the rules and what was expected and were rewarded for their outstanding performance.
hope she has learned a life lesson, keep opening your stupid mouth with ignorant comments, in a
courtroom, and find out what the consequences are.
I can just imagine how many times she has uttered those words and showed the finger at whomever
she wishes, well in this case she has met her match, and luckily she didn't keep on keepin on
with that behavior, or she would be serving even more time.
If there is a next time, she will know when to shut-up, suck it up, take her medicine and learn
about life, other than where she has up till this point.
courtroom, and find out what the consequences are.
I can just imagine how many times she has uttered those words and showed the finger at whomever
she wishes, well in this case she has met her match, and luckily she didn't keep on keepin on
with that behavior, or she would be serving even more time.
If there is a next time, she will know when to shut-up, suck it up, take her medicine and learn
about life, other than where she has up till this point.
talloola, you'd be amazed at the eye opening experience a court room, with what appears to be a no nonsense, hardball Judge can do to a kid who's never faced real consequences.
I've seen it turn them around.
But sadly, I've also seen it fail to achieve its intended goal.
I think the judge did her a huge favour and that fact that is was caught on tape was excellent for her allowing her time to sober up and see how she presented when drugged as an opportunity for change.
She learned some valuable lessons:
She learned some valuable lessons:
- you cannot challenge authority in this manner and succeed
- drugs destroy one's ability to think and to respond in a rational acceptable manner
- when one does the right thing, the right things happen for you
Not only did she deserve 30 days, the Judge had little choice. If any judge let a f-you and the finger pass (blatant disrespect), his court would soon be out of control and he'd probably wouldn't last long as a judge.
Actually ... yes it does. He da Judge. Get onside with the gun-toting crazies if you want him out fast
i'm sure you're right, nothing is perfect, and i'm sure kids who ended up in court, in trouble
from being in the (wrong place,
wrong time),
became bitter and sour from the experience too.
dealing with humans is an adventure.
You're being an idiot. The judge has the final say in his courtroom, so long as he is acting within the bounds of the law and the constitution. The assertion that he can't judge her on her demeanor is absolute crap: in setting a bond that's one of the few things, aside from the offense that he has to go by. If she isn't taking the proceedings seriously, how the hell is he supposed to know she won't just blow off her trial/next proceeding and fail to appear?
Of course. To say nothing of the notion that being on one's best behaviour, showing remorse and contrition can at times illicit the sympathies of the court (judge) and affect sentencing or bond. It only stands to reason that behaviour in opposition to that would produce negative results when it comes to sentencing or bond.
It is not him setting the bond wherever he wants based upon the charge & his opinion of her that bothers me. Where I have an issue is him setting a bond, saying "bye-bye" to her, and then calling her back and doubling the bond because she responded "adios". I usually respond to people when they say bye, most of the time I say ciao.
Think of it in terms of sentencing. Judge "I sentence you to 5 years imprisonment, bye-bye." Accused- "adios". Judge- "wait, come back. Make that 10 years imprisonment". Now that would be an outrage. Do you see where I'm coming from here? Once a judge makes a pronouncement it should stick no matter what unless there is an actual legal reason to proceed with a different charge.
I thought that the first time too Nick...I thought...wtf...she just said adios...but once I viewed it in the context of the whole I know why he did it... but at first I thought it extremely harsh too.
It isn't just what she said.
I've seen a Judge do that. Not over how someone said good bye, but for how they reacted.
Yep, you're coming from a place of limited knowledge.
Not until the court clerk fills out the paper work, the Judge signs it and the court officer files it, is it set in sand.
You can be walking out of the building and be stopped and the terms of the pronouncement changed.