There is no heaven, it ‘is a fairy story,’ Stephen Hawking says

darkbeaver

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Hawkings believes in black holes and the big bang, this means he's a fundamentalist creationist religious relativist nut who believes everything came from nothing in a blink. So he dosn't believe in heaven. That's the least of our worries with this guy.
 
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they were geniuses, but they were around way before our technology dramatically improved , they didn't know what we know now.

And by that you undoubtedly mean that just because you were born between 1980 and 1999 (and I am giving you probably more credit than you deserve - share it with your soul bro, mentalfloss) you know more and you are smarter than the icons of yesteryear.

I would be tempted to say shame on you, but I know it would be no use. You and your above-mentioned soul-mate got your 'education' from unionized indoctrinators, formerly known as dedicated, non-unionized TEACHERS.
 

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YukonJack

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"But to play the stupid game, I wouldn't trust anyone that believes Fox News is more credible than Time Magazine, lol"

When other TV stations present as much opposing view on their opinion programs as FOX News does on theirs, I might start to believe those channels. Until then I dismiss all FOX bashing as uninformed and idiotic nonsense.

And I am tempted to dismiss anyone who needs to include smiley faces and idiotic abbreviations like 'lol', 'roflmao' etc, as verbally challenged morons.
 

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And by that you undoubtedly mean that just because you were born between 1980 and 1999 (and I am giving you probably more credit than you deserve - share it with your soul bro, mentalfloss) you know more and you are smarter than the icons of yesteryear.

I would be tempted to say shame on you, but I know it would be no use. You and your above-mentioned soul-mate got your 'education' from unionized indoctrinators, formerly known as dedicated, non-unionized TEACHERS.

no where did i say i was smarter than them... but we yes know more now than scientists in the 13th and 14th centuries did about the universe... obviously...
 

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It doesn't matter. Simply appealing to Einstein to prove god is as fallacious as appealing to Hawking to disprove heaven.

But to play the stupid game, I wouldn't trust anyone that believes Fox News is more credible than Time Magazine, lol
Albert was a Kabbalist.... a Heeb al Chemist. Al Chemist don't believe in god but believe the human mind can be god like or.....GOLDEN
 

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"But to play the stupid game, I wouldn't trust anyone that believes Fox News is more credible than Time Magazine, lol"

When other TV stations present as much opposing view on their opinion programs as FOX News does on theirs, I might start to believe those channels. Until then I dismiss all FOX bashing as uninformed and idiotic nonsense.

And I am tempted to dismiss anyone who needs to include smiley faces and idiotic abbreviations like 'lol', 'roflmao' etc, as verbally challenged morons.

Don't bring up the fact you watch fox news and dismantle your credibility......
 

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Stephen Hawkings is a brilliant scientist but scientists are formidably close-minded whilst presuming that they are the greatest intellects in existence. It is an oxymoron to be sure. Scientists are run by the mental field and ego. Not the ego that cocaine dependent, sexually warped Freud defined, erronously, for the world in the early 20th century. Ego is allowing the mind to control one's physical journey which causes that person to believe that only the physical exists. Yes, we live in the 3rd dimension, which is a physical/material plane, but we are much more than a mind. Heaven, as religion describes it, does not exist. Where our current personality ends up post-mortem is dependent upon the individual's thoughts and actions in this world. Everything is energy and all of it vibrates at varying levels. Murder is a very low vibration. Even contemplating murder causes one to vibrate at a low, dense level. Negative emotions: anger, remorse, hatred, intolerance, indifference, attachment to belief systems; fear, envy, judgment (watch out scientists, Christians and Muslims!), self-condemnation, regret, you get the picture... cause one to vibrate very low. We exist in only one of myriad dimensions. When we die our spirit goes to the dimension which vibrates at the same level that we do at the time of our death. There is no heavenly assessment of our life on the other side. We examine our own lives and how each thought, word and action affected those around us .... then we experience the pain or joy that we produced in them through our thoughts and actions. It is simple. Anyway, live a life of basic courtesy without hidden agenda and judgment; treat the planet, yourself and all living things with dignity and respect; live as neutrally as possible and you will exist at a higher level of vibration which will correlate to a matching dimension. Most important die in a neural state for intense emotion causes the vibratory field to become denser. If this is deemed "heaven" then so be it.
Those who harm others and care nothing for other life forms; those who feel entitled (to everything!) and practise self-indulgence in food and environment; those who are self-serving and are willing to sacrifice others to meet their needs; those who are deceitful and harm others' because of it; those who choose to live in violence and create mayhem for entertainment go to the dimensions that are populated with those of their ilk. Call this hell if you wish but it is inaccurate. For those humans dedicated to contributing forms of darkness to the Universal Consciousness and the 3rd dimension, hellish environment is a form of heaven to them. We determine what occurs to our surviving personality by how we conduct ourselves here on Earth, the physical plane. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, ergo, the personality cannot be destroyed so it must continue on in an appropriate dimension. There is no divine reward or punishment. Religions teach this in order to prevent Enlightenment in the people but the truth is that the Divine Presence lives within each and every one of us. This Divinity is our Inner Light and is allowed to shine and affect our world according, again, to our personal vibration. The lower and denser we vibrate the darker/denser the effect we have upon our world and the less visible the Inner Light. Through self-examination and dedication to allowing our Inner Divine to radiate into our world alters it for the better. We are here to become Enlightened but I will not go into Higher Wisdom here. Suffice to say that anyone can raise their vibrations and access this Wisdom on their own. There is no religion that teaches this. All spiritual wisdom sources from this Divine Core. There is no heaven; there is no hell; there are thousands of dimensions to accomodate the myriad levels of human vibration. You go to what you are when you die. That is that! Amen.
 

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Don't bring up the fact you watch fox news and dismantle your credibility......

I don't give a rodent's (you know, your brother's, perhaps your father's or mother's) rectum what you think of my credibility. I am confident and comfortable in mine.

I watch FOX because I can. You and your miserable ilk watch Maimed Stream Media because you feel you must, in order to get your daily dose of pap.
 

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I don't give a rodent's (you know, your brother's, perhaps your father's or mother's) rectum what you think of my credibility. I am confident and comfortable in mine.

I watch FOX because I can. You and your miserable ilk watch Maimed Stream Media because you feel you must, in order to get your daily dose of pap.

Keep watching Fox News and being misinformed, this doesn't concern me. You're only hurting your own credibility.
 

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This isn't really news. For anyone who cares (and for some who don't) it was already known that he was an atheist. And does it matter that he is? Not really. He's just a scientist. His pronouncements on religion are neither significant nor interesting. Now, if the Pope came out and said the same thing, that would be interesting.
 

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Mr Hawkins is absolutely correct, there is no heaven.
Mr Hawkins is wrong, there is afterlife.
Afterlife is no heaven or hell, it is very much like this life, its physical features were created identical to ours, the only differences are the man-made ones.
I realize the word "reincarnation" intones phonyness or reiligious mania. Maybe we should start calling it something else, something very scientific sounding, then start to investigate exactly what it is.
Scientist now suspect there is a paralell universe, although can't prove its existence. Paralell universe is where you and I go after death. Nothing heavenly about it, just a different state. When a person dies on earth, his physical body dies, his "soul body" detaches itself and eventually moves it. The process is not instantenous, so most people are actually present at their own wake and funeral, like a detached observer betaking the scene. Sudden deaths are an absolute surprise to the individual because where there has been anguish and pain, now they stand by their detached bodies not experiences any of these emotions, but feeling sort of lost as to what is next. What happens next is, someone, usually a seniour family member, will show up by your side and guide you through to your rehabitation.
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