Like this one.From the OP. As to what the ER staff was doing that would have been taken into consideration by the study. Yes - no - maybe? Myself i would state a firm yes it would be.
Thing is we do not know if they were doing it, until reading the study.
This I believe is the study- poached from another board.
http://www.alphagalileo.org/AssetVie...CultureCode=en
a b s t r a c t
Background:
Cardiac arrest (CA) survivors experience cognitive deficits including post-traumatic stress
disorder (PTSD). It is unclear whether these are related to cognitive/mental experiences and awareness
during CPR. Despite anecdotal reports the broad range of cognitive/mental experiences and awareness
associated with CPR has not been systematically studied.
Methods:
The incidence and validity of awareness together with the range, characteristics and themes
relating to memories/cognitive processes during CA was investigated through a 4 year multi-center
observational study using a three stage quantitative and qualitative interview system. The feasibility
of objectively testing the accuracy of claims of visual and auditory awareness was examined using spe-
cific tests. The outcome measures were (1) awareness/memories during CA and (2) objective verification
of claims of awareness using specific tests.
Results:
Among 2060 CA events, 140 survivors completed stage 1 interviews, while 101 of 140 patients
completed stage 2 interviews. 46% had memories with 7 major cognitive themes: fear; animals/plants;
bright light; violence/persecution; deja-vu; family; recalling events post-CA and 9% had NDEs, while 2%
described awareness with explicit recall of ‘seeing’ and ‘hearing’ actual events related to their resusci-
tation. One had a verifiable period of conscious awareness during which time cerebral function was not
expected.
From the OP
One man even recalled leaving his body entirely and watching his resuscitation from the corner of the room.
Despite being unconscious and “dead” for three minutes the 57-year-old social worker from Southampton, recounted the actions of the nursing staff in detail and described the sound of the machines.
“We know the brain can’t function when the heart has stopped beating,” said Dr Sam Parnia, a former Southampton University research fellow now based at the State University of New York, who led the study.
“But in this case conscious awareness appears to have continued for up to three minutes into the period when the heart wasn’t beating, even though the brain typically shuts down within 20-30 seconds after the heart has stopped.
The bold above is my emphasis. See, that's just not true. Machines can keep your heart beating even if it can't keep beating on it's own. Lots of brain activity still. Ventilation and CPR is artificial circulation just the same. As long as the brain cells are getting oxygen, there's lots of stored energy, electrolytes to polarize and de-polarize membranes, signalling hormones, etc. I mean just below that sentence he says brain typically stops 20-30 seconds after the heart has stopped. Now, add in CPR and artificial breathing, you've extended the viability, and function, a lot. Otherwise, people would be vegetables after heart attacks. Some are, most aren't.