There Is A Cancer On The Obama Presidency!

[EagleSmack]

Reagan vs Dukakis was pretty bad

Oh. Please go on. Please tell us about the Reagan vs Dukakis campaign.

Remember the Republicans slandering Dukakis for letting murderers out of jail?

Which was fact.

Glenn Beck says that Americans should do for themselves and not depend on the government the problem is that the Romney camp is willing to cut the government and let Americans starve to death because they have to decide between food or healthcare to live.

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Americans starve to death. LOL. Our "poor" are not only the fattest "poor" in the world they are the most obese of all classes in the US. And they all have FREE Healthcare already.

 

[TeddyBallgame]

My how things have changed. Reagan could get Repblicans chanting for millionaires to pay their share. But with the advent of Fox news and other nutter-right propoganda they've converted even the sane into thinking paying tax is a crime.

- Kreskin, you`re amazing! In fact if stupidity was a virtue of the Catholic Church, I`d be putting you up for sainthood right about now.

- Below is a table which I presume is straightforward enough for even you to read. It details how much by percentage of total taxes is paid by the people in the different income groups in America.

- As even you can see, the top 1% pay about 37% of the total income taxes while the top 10% pay over 70% of the total income taxes. At the other end, those who benefit the most from the dispersement of various public programs, services and entitlements drawn from these taxes - the bottom 50% - pay almost no income taxes at all, about 2% of the total.

- Will you now explain to us what exactly you and your hero BO mean by paying one`s fair share of taxes. Since the table below is deemed unfair by you, I presume that you won`t be happy until the top 1% or 5% or maybe 10% pay all the taxes and everyone else waits by the mail box for their monthly government cheques. But maybe, just maybe, you actually have something sane and useful to contribute in this regard although your hero BO does not. He`s just trying to whip up the class envy among the morons to help get him re-elected in November.

- The floor is yours, Kreskin. Amaze us.


Who Pays Income Taxes and How Much?

Tax Year 2009

Percentiles Ranked by AGI
AGI Threshold on Percentiles
Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid
Top 1%
$343,927
36.73
Top 5%
$154,643
58.66
Top 10%
$112,124
70.47
Top 25%
$66,193
87.30
Top 50%
$32,396
97.75
Bottom 50%
<$32,396
2.25​

Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income
Source: Internal Revenue Service
​

 

[Kreskin]

- Kreskin, you`re amazing! In fact if stupidity was a virtue of the Catholic Church, I`d be putting you up for sainthood right about now.

- Below is a table which I presume is straightforward enough for even you to read. It details how much by percentage of total taxes is paid by the people in the different income groups in America.

- As even you can see, the top 1% pay about 37% of the total income taxes while the top 10% pay over 70% of the total income taxes. At the other end, those who benefit the most from the dispersement of various public programs, services and entitlements drawn from these taxes - the bottom 50% - pay almost no income taxes at all, about 2% of the total.

- Will you now explain to us what exactly you and your hero BO mean by paying one`s fair share of taxes. Since the table below is deemed unfair by you, I presume that you won`t be happy until the top 1% or 5% or maybe 10% pay all the taxes and everyone else waits by the mail box for their monthly government cheques. But maybe, just maybe, you actually have something sane and useful to contribute in this regard although your hero BO does not. He`s just trying to whip up the class envy among the morons to help get him re-elected in November.

- The floor is yours, Kreskin. Amaze us.


Who Pays Income Taxes and How Much?

Tax Year 2009

Percentiles Ranked by AGI
AGI Threshold on Percentiles
Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid
Top 1%
$343,927
36.73
Top 5%
$154,643
58.66
Top 10%
$112,124
70.47
Top 25%
$66,193
87.30
Top 50%
$32,396
97.75
Bottom 50%
<$32,396
2.25​

Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income
Source: Internal Revenue Service
​

A half-wit like you would think that if Wrigley's gum factory donates a pack of gum and you donate one then all is fair in the donation front. Redneck suckers like you are easy prey for hocus pocus statisticians. Even Mitt Romney admits to only paying 13% tax on the only tax return he has made public. A bus driver pays a higher percentage of tax than Mitt Romney.

Go play your banjo.

 

[Just the Facts]

How many salaries does a bus driver pay?

 

[Kreskin]

How many salaries does a bus driver pay?

How many low income salaries does it take to make someone wealthy?

 

[Just the Facts]

None. Successful people understand the value of their employees and pay accordingly. If your wage is low, odds are your value is low, and you're not making anyone rich.

 

[BaalsTears]

I would seriously like to know how many posters on this thread are US Citizens and are going to vote..

The rest, who gives a fukk what you think about Obama, Romney or whoever.. the only thing that counts is the one who actually gets to cast a vote.

Just look at the big stink Canadians put up when they thought Americans may have influenced the 2011 vote.. OMG!! Never heard the end of it..

Tories may have broken 2011 election rules with US Republican campaigners in Ontario | The Vancouver Observer

Obama will win another 4 years.. most people don't like change.. GWB was re-elected .. incumbent president usually wins in times of turmoil.

Obama may very well win reelection. But if he does it will trigger the loss of hope by tens of millions of people. And I'll start looking like a moderate to you.

None. Successful people understand the value of their employees and pay accordingly. If your wage is low, odds are your value is low, and you're not making anyone rich.

It doesn't make sense to employ Americans unless it can't be helped. Automation is preferable. That's very sad.

For unskilled labor business turns to illegal aliens from Mexico and Central America. For high skill jobs business turns to Indians and Chinese. Again, very sad.

 

[Nuggler]

There is a cancer on your face. Maybe we should remove it.

Asshole.

 

[Goober]

- I find when I type in short paragraphs, I like to use hyphens at the beginning.

- It really makes everything look important, and I can pretend I have some writing ability.

- In the end, though, it's pretty annoying to read.

And he is Far Right Justified- well not justified. But far right.

 

[Kreskin]

None. Successful people understand the value of their employees and pay accordingly. If your wage is low, odds are your value is low, and you're not making anyone rich.

Those arguments are just nonsense. If you don't think you don't need a workforce try making money without one. And if you still want to bitch and complain about making money and paying taxes, move out of the way. Someone else will gladly take your place too.

 

[Goober]

Obama may very well win reelection. But if he does it will trigger the loss of hope by tens of millions of people. And I'll start looking like a moderate to you.


It doesn't make sense to employ Americans unless it can't be helped. Automation is preferable. That's very sad.

For unskilled labor business turns to illegal aliens from Mexico and Central America. For high skill jobs business turns to Indians and Chinese. Again, very sad.

If he is re-elected he has to cut spending and raise taxes- and yes the new manufacturing is in robotics- IBM and other are moving their production back to the US.

 

[Kreskin]

The other side of this debate is the republicans were in control in congress from 1995-2007. Where they are now is just a continuation of the spending trend, and it's Congress who spends money. They are in control now as well. Look how well they've done.

 

[Goober]

The other side of this debate is the republicans were in control in congress from 1995-2007. Where they are now is just a continuation of the spending trend, and it's Congress who spends money. They are in control now as well. Look how well they've done.

I would say they are all guilty- They both created this mess and they both have to work to get out of it.

 

[EagleSmack]

The other side of this debate is the republicans were in control in congress from 1995-2007. Where they are now is just a continuation of the spending trend, and it's Congress who spends money. They are in control now as well. Look how well they've done.

Kreskin are you really saying the the Republicans are now in control of Congress?

 

[taxslave]

I would say they are all guilty- They both created this mess and they both have to work to get out of it.

Thats because it is so much easier to buy votes by giving voters what they want instead of doing what is right. Now the bill collector is banging on the door and the debtors are in a serious case of denial. Much like Greece only on a grander scale.

 

[EagleSmack]

Those arguments are just nonsense. If you don't think you don't need a workforce try making money without one. And if you still want to bitch and complain about making money and paying taxes, move out of the way. Someone else will gladly take your place too.

JTF did not say that successful people don't need a workforce... he said successful people know the values of their employees and pay accordingly.

Sometimes I wonder if Conservatives should use lefty tactics and just create and sell an alter reality. It seems to work quite a bit.

 

[Kreskin]

JTF did not say that successful people don't need a workforce... he said successful people know the values of their employees and pay accordingly.

Sometimes I wonder if Conservatives should use lefty tactics and just create and sell an alter reality. It seems to work quite a bit.

The baloney is using any of those arguments to justify not paying tax. Sorry ES, I have always being fiscally conservative but am really tired of the Rush Limbaugh-like fallacies.

And here's your major cancer

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/~/m...laining_high_hlt_care_spending_intl_brief.pdf

The right wants you to think that private health care is the end all.

 

[Just the Facts]

Those arguments are just nonsense. If you don't think you don't need a workforce try making money without one. And if you still want to bitch and complain about making money and paying taxes, move out of the way. Someone else will gladly take your place too.

I didn't say you don't need a workforce. Not even close. But that doesn't really matter, does it?

The other side of this debate is the republicans were in control in congress from 1995-2007. Where they are now is just a continuation of the spending trend, and it's Congress who spends money. They are in control now as well. Look how well they've done.

lol you've already forgotten about the debt ceiling bru ha ha and how the republicans were nazis for not wanting to give O a blank cheque? You're a tea partier now. lol

The baloney is using any of those arguments to justify not paying tax. Sorry ES, I have always being fiscally conservative but am really tired of the Rush Limbaugh-like fallacies.

And here's your major cancer

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/~/media/Files/Publications/Issue%20Brief/2012/May/1595_Squires_explaining_high_hlt_care_spending_intl_brief.pdf

The right wants you to think that private health care is the end all.

No one uses arguments to justify not paying tax, they use tax law.

What lefties and commie pinkos like to ignore is that tax laws don't apply just to people who are already here, they apply to people who are looking for a reason to come here. All else being equal, investors will go elsewhere if taxes are lower there, and your workforce will be SOL.

 

[Kreskin]

I didn't say you don't need a workforce. Not even close. But that doesn't really matter, does it?



lol you've already forgotten about the debt ceiling bru ha ha and how the republicans were nazis for not wanting to give O a blank cheque? You're a tea partier now. lol



No one uses arguments to justify not paying tax, they use tax law.

What lefties and commie pinkos like to ignore is that tax laws don't apply just to people who are already here, they apply to people who are looking for a reason to come here. All else being equal, investors will go elsewhere if taxes are lower there, and your workforce will be SOL.

You said bus drivers don't create jobs, as if that is a reason that they should pay a higher % of NET tax. For crying out loud, even Ronald Reagan made the argument that bus drivers shouldn't be paying a higher % of tax than millionaires and billionaires.

lol you've already forgotten about the debt ceiling bru ha ha and how the republicans were nazis for not wanting to give O a blank cheque? You're a tea partier now. lol

Sorry you don't like the facts. I think rednecks should shut the **** up about spending since they are the ones who spent it (and now have it in their bank accounts).

All else being equal, investors will go elsewhere if taxes are lower there, and your workforce will be SOL.

You still falling for baloney eh? I've got news for you, they all left for China while their tax rates were lowered.

 

[Just the Facts]

You said bus drivers don't create jobs, as if that is a reason that they should pay a higher % of NET tax

Tax laws apply to bus drivers same as anyone else. If a bus driver buys his own bus and hires a driver, guess what, he can write it off and pay a lower percentage of tax. You don't get to claim deductions by sitting around belly aching about rich people and how they don't pay you 3 million a year plus bonuses to drive their buses.

. For crying out loud, even Ronald Reagan made the argument that bus drivers shouldn't be paying a higher % of tax than millionaires and billionaires.

<shrug> Ronald Reagan means nothing to me. Something to do with Bonzo, right?

Sorry you don't like the facts. I think rednecks should shut the **** up about spending since they are the ones who spent it (and now have it in their bank accounts).

Ahhh, so that's how they afford all that pulled pork. lol Well kept secret. Wait until the ACORN fellas find out O gave away their money!

You still falling for baloney eh? I've got news for you, they all left for China while their tax rates were lowered.

I guess all else wasn't equal cough wages cough. Just ask the GM workforce in Oshawa what they're gonna do now. Strike? lol