The Trump Administration is Falling Apart
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A lot of it is a matter of timing - the Olympic weight lifter isn't necessarily an Olympic Weight lifter for ever! He'll likely need help too when he gets to be a doddering old f**ker. In exchange he helps pack the groceries while he can.
Who's business should the government be used for? You said the military was used for the business of government insiders. If the government was a business, those insiders would basically be the owners and shareholders.
Agreed, however, what you have described is the moderate position of what should be the role of gvt.
Where we are at present is no where near that moderate position.
in terms of the prosperity issue, there does come a time when the (ever) increasing costs and reliance on that demographic breaks the camels back and they, well, leave... Case in point, look to France's marginal tax rate of 75% on income over 1 million Euros... Didn't increase the tax revenues in the nation's accounts but did a helluva job of driving out those individuals and businesses that were subject to the increase
Interesting concept.So what you're saying is people should give according to their ability and receive according to their need.
lol doesn't seem like you do either. Why can't you explain how government should be run like a business? The idea sounds impressive and people who don't want to think about difficult concepts just toss it around, but you ask them to explain it and they can't. Go ahead and tell us how and why this would work.
Basically but only that person should decide what their ability to give is. Not a group that wants more for less.
Study business a bit and we can talk about it. To explain it all here would take too long unless Capt. Can come up with a readers digest version.
By running government like a business I don't mean ignoring those in need either. It is more about financial responsibility. I could make a strong business case for paying $2000/mo. For welfare if I had the time to sit and think about it for a while. Probably without raising taxes or taking from other programs either. But there would be far fewer bureaucrats involved in the process.
Of course. It's the eternal struggle. How much is too much? How much is too little (for example, education spending or old-age pensions) to enable people to live well (kinda the sine qua non of civilization), and how much is too much, stifling the work ethic and creativity?
That's the whole damn point. What irritates me about this board is that everybody with a shred of sense knows this, but people spend so little time discussing the question of how much is too much/too little, and so damn much shrieking their extreme positions.
Even you. Even me. We're smart, sane, educated, informed individuals, yet both of us (me as much as you, and possibly more) retreat into snark and extremism rather than seriously discussing what's important. I'm willing to commit to a sincere effort to try to do more of the latter and less of the former. Care to join me?
The IT dept for any company doesn't make a profit either.
Any thoughts on why companies still fund these money losing depts?
I'm still trying to understand how you make government departments profitable. I think that the problem is the metrics that some use to measure profitability. How does the military show a profit? ... by giving us the physical security to go about our business and do profitable things. How do you measure the profitability of public education? ... by measuring the vast increases in GDP and standard of living that accompany a well-educated populace. How can public health care be profitable? ... by having a healthy and long lived population, we can all produce far more without as much down time due to sickness.
Bean counters miss the big picture which is why the "run the government like a business" analogy fails.
Any thoughts on why companies still fund these money losing depts?
I'm still trying to understand how you make government departments profitable. I think that the problem is the metrics that some use to measure profitability. How does the military show a profit? ... by giving us the physical security to go about our business and do profitable things. How do you measure the profitability of public education? ... by measuring the vast increases in GDP and standard of living that accompany a well-educated populace. How can public health care be profitable? ... by having a healthy and long lived population, we can all produce far more without as much down time due to sickness.
Bean counters miss the big picture which is why the "run the government like a business" analogy fails.
Run Gov't like a business is a good layman's way to explain it. If TS is anything like me he would basically like to see the waste greatly reduced and a lot of bureaucrats start doing something productive. Gov't is too much like an "old boy's club". AS for people giving and receiving according to their ability and need, you hit the nail on the head. People nowadays are beginning to talk about getting a month cheque for doing nothing - a bit of that is necessary like in the case of an 85 year old codger dependant on 2 canes and a wheel chair who is deaf and vision impaired and suffering from dementia.
One of the hurdles in the question of how much is too much/too little hinges on the analysis of the (reasonable) costs of the services that gvt is expected to provide.
Here in Canuckistan, the Holiest of the Holy are healthcare and education - so much so, that any form of tangible discussion, let alone privatization is heavily frowned upon (albeit, not impossible).... As political hot potato issues, no gvt (that wants to be reelected that is) will delve into reviewing either portfolio, as a result, the costs spiral way out of control in no time at all.
Well said... Sometimes it's just easier to take that position of condescension (I have deteriorated into that mud bog often)... Regrettably, it only sets back the entire conversation and prevents any actual discussion/debate or thoughts on solutions or alternatives
Government operates as a singular entity. Within this entity, are numerous moving parts that all contribute to the effectiveness of the gvt overall.
Consider that gvts periodically announce a surplus. In crude terms, they have generated a profit based on the projections from the year(s) prior.
That said, don't look at the individual components (departments) as independent as it only tells part of the story
The elephant in the room relative to your examples comes down to is how much $$ will be reasonable to accommodate these portfolios.
Eliminate the emotions and consider that question in a clinical manner (accountant style).... It's a hugely unappealing consideration, however it is necessary as long as these issues need funding to operate
rethink that assessment relative to the above input.
i think that we have not fully dissected the issues enough to make any judgements yet
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The Trump administration is not the only American thing falling apart. Only war can save the American rich and they will send your sons and daughters to war while they slither away from prosecution.
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The Trump administration is not the only American thing falling apart. Only war can save the American rich and they will send your sons and daughters to war while they slither away from prosecution.
MOSCOW STRIKES BACK: Russia is close to dumping the dollar!
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Uncle Sam can't bullshjt its way out of this.
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To be fair he has to build one before it can fail. It could even be worse than the one he inherited and then it would have to fail and that is somewhere down the road, a long dark road.
Scaramucci is a product of the Wall Street trading culture, which differs from the investment culture which tends to move up to midtown NYC. The two are deeply antagonistic to each other. The trading culture is arrogant, profane, aggressive, confrontational. It attract individuals who are egotistical, amoral, self absorbed and chauvinistic. Leonardo DiCaprio's character in the Wolf of Wall Street is a pure portrait of the type.
I think Trump considers him a useful tool. He has systematically sidelined and removed the Republican Establishment from his inner circle, virtually all Reaganite globalists, imperialists, free traders, trickle downers, libertarians. Some executives maintain control of their organization by fomenting competition and conflict within it. It seems Trump gravitates to this although the new Chief of Staff John Kelly seems a very level headed and responsible 4 Star Marine Corps General who is not going to get emmeshed in petty 'court' politics.
The speculation that Steve Bannon might be next on the outs list is just that. Bannon is a populist champion, an economic nationalist, who has been instrumental in articulating Trump's vision.. likely to Trump himself. He is integral to the policy direction of Trump's election promises and imho is irrepraceable for the forseeable future in that role.
He is the force behind Trump's withdrawal from the Paris Accord and likely the Transgender Ban in the military. Trump depends on him for crucial and controversial executive decisions. Scaramucci is a sh*t disturber supremo and emminently disposable, however, with little of value to contribute in the way policy advice.
If anyone in the Trump cabinet is likely to leave by year's end its Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who has become almost invisible as the senior member of Trump's cabinet and is reportedly deeply frustrated that he is outside the inner loop of the White House. He is a very conventional businessman who has little understanding or empathy with Trump's politics.
The overall appearance is of a White House that is resolving itself, one might say purifying itself, in a populist image. It is doing that through an all out onslaught by the the media establishment, and the neocon/neolib political establishment of both parties. The Trump administration is finally getting some traction on a very slippery path and i expect it to begin to move deliberately in achieving its main objectives over the next year.
I think Trump considers him a useful tool. He has systematically sidelined and removed the Republican Establishment from his inner circle, virtually all Reaganite globalists, imperialists, free traders, trickle downers, libertarians. Some executives maintain control of their organization by fomenting competition and conflict within it. It seems Trump gravitates to this although the new Chief of Staff John Kelly seems a very level headed and responsible 4 Star Marine Corps General who is not going to get emmeshed in petty 'court' politics.
The speculation that Steve Bannon might be next on the outs list is just that. Bannon is a populist champion, an economic nationalist, who has been instrumental in articulating Trump's vision.. likely to Trump himself. He is integral to the policy direction of Trump's election promises and imho is irrepraceable for the forseeable future in that role.
He is the force behind Trump's withdrawal from the Paris Accord and likely the Transgender Ban in the military. Trump depends on him for crucial and controversial executive decisions. Scaramucci is a sh*t disturber supremo and emminently disposable, however, with little of value to contribute in the way policy advice.
If anyone in the Trump cabinet is likely to leave by year's end its Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who has become almost invisible as the senior member of Trump's cabinet and is reportedly deeply frustrated that he is outside the inner loop of the White House. He is a very conventional businessman who has little understanding or empathy with Trump's politics.
The overall appearance is of a White House that is resolving itself, one might say purifying itself, in a populist image. It is doing that through an all out onslaught by the the media establishment, and the neocon/neolib political establishment of both parties. The Trump administration is finally getting some traction on a very slippery path and i expect it to begin to move deliberately in achieving its main objectives over the next year.
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I'm not maintenance. What kind of a system allows puter retards likeme to fukkup a thread. Shouldn't that be impossible?
So he has to go sooner than later. I wonder how that could come about?
There's nothing like a mournfull US national weepfeast to bind basically stupid people to suicidal fixes.
Bean counters often miss the big picture when running as business as well. And you missed the point about government and profit. Various departments do not have to make a profit, rather they have live within their respective budgets just like in the real world. Essentially expendatures must not exceed revenues. It is not really all that complicated if you ignore special interest groups and one trick ponies.
Mostly it requires someone at the top of each department with fiscal responsibility that has the power to say NO. To bureaucrats that are only interested in more money for less work and eliminating overlapping jurisdictions.
THe simple example I use is parks. There are at least 4 levels of parks in Canada all with their huge bureaucracies and manpower. But there is still only one layer of taxpayer that must foot the bill. There is no need for this. One group can look after all parks. For that matter school playgrounds could probably be included in the maintenance end.
It seems like every day a major crisis about Trump arises. Now for an interesting little exercise....................What was the crisis surrounding Trump a week ago today? Maybe not such a crisis after all! 
Interesting . So it is business as usual EXCEPT that all the warts are fully exposed.
Not sue that anti establishment fits his style anyhow. Plus it is a concept that is rather dated and based on rebellion.
This gang is too disorganized and chaotic to fit into a standard description.
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