The Trump Administration is Falling Apart

Angstrom

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You seem to believe that democracy is about voting for someone that gives people what they want.

That's not democracy.

Democracy can be different for you. You can't control others and how they see the world.

The establishment is much better then Trump. Says the establishment.
 

mentalfloss

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Democracy can be different for you. You can't control others and how they see the world.

We live in a representative democracy whether you like it or not.

And the establishment proved itself as a conduit for democracy, perfectly, when congress voted on healthcare.
 

Angstrom

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We live in a representative democracy whether you like it or not.

And the establishment proved itself as a conduit for democracy, perfectly, when congress voted on healthcare.

then everything is well and how it should be? The establishment better play nice or the people will elect a anti establishment candidate again. Its all part of keeping everyone accountable? So what was the big deal about again?

Let Trump fire the establishment people for the next 4 years. Let the establishment fear his wrath. Maybe they will play nice for a while or else the people elect a other Trump to fuk with the establishment for 4 more years.
 

Angstrom

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You're clearly not understanding that a democracy isn't just an election.

It's about representing the best interests of those you serve. That doesn't mean giving them what they want.

Let the establishment fear Trump's wrath. Maybe they will play nice for a while or else the people elect a other Trump to fuk with the establishment for 4 more years.
 

mentalfloss

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Just keep repeating your talking points without actually learning anything.

Anyway, some tips for the MOOCH


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Ocean Breeze

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True enough, Jeebus was one of the biggest leakers. Republican insider put in to destroy Trump from the inside,
the Republican Party should be dissolved.

Scaramucci,.. edgy ? No, he will a complete son of a bitch. The fights will be legendary. The destruction
of traitor Republicans will be complete.

Can't wait. :)
Thanks to Trump......they are in self destruct mode. Wonder how long it will be before it is every men / women for themselves?? and the bail outs begin. With the constant change in players not sure they can stabilize into a functioning governing body.

The thing is that Trump is known t promote and actually enjoy the chaos he creates .

Notice that Russia etc has not been prominent in the news in the past few days. The Trumpkins like it that way........
 

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Thanks to Trump......they are in self destruct mode. Wonder how long it will be before it is every men / women for themselves?? and the bail outs begin. With the constant change in players not sure they can stabilize into a functioning governing body.

The thing is that Trump is known t promote and actually enjoy the chaos he creates .

Notice that Russia etc has not been prominent in the news in the past few days. The Trumpkins like it that way........


Enjoy the chaos.. yeah because politicians being worried is a good thing.
in case you haven't noticed, the US has a lot of problems that the politicians have created.
They need to become afraid of the voters again, and if Trump can help that, I'm all for it.

The one thing he needs to change is to get ahead of the media, for him to drive the news agenda.
But as long as CNN and the other MSM keep on printing lots of fake news and outright lies,
that may be difficult to do.
 

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Sheesh, it's almost impossible to keep up. Another one bit the dust just this morning. Who might be the next to as the current administration comes apart?
 

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He was elected to govern. So far, he has failed miserably. He is NOT supposed to be the President of the one-third of the USA that elected him. He is supposed to be everyone's President and that is way, way beyond him.
Yes... he was elected to GOVERN the country. He has no clue as to how to do it. He might be able to do ok in the business world......but that is a whole different ball game. The business world has one focus : the bottom line. Governing a nation has a focus of doing what is best for an entire population. the budget is NB......but creating a country that has a high standard and quality of life for EVERYONE is the role of a governing administration........and has to follow certain principles and ethics accomplishing that


What is interesting in this whole mess is that the Republicans hold the democrats to a much higher standard then they do themselves. Their current behavior under Trump is evidence of that.

If a Democratic leader behaved this way....... The republican lynch mob would be out in full force
 

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Yes... he was elected to GOVERN the country. He has no clue as to how to do it. He might be able to do ok in the business world......but that is a whole different ball game. The business world has one focus : the bottom line. Governing a nation has a focus of doing what is best for an entire population. the budget is NB......but creating a country that has a high standard and quality of life for EVERYONE is the role of a governing administration........and has to follow certain principles and ethics accomplishing that


What is interesting in this whole mess is that the Republicans hold the democrats to a much higher standard then they do themselves. Their current behavior under Trump is evidence of that.

If a Democratic leader behaved this way....... The republican lynch mob would be out in full force

The Dumpster's problems are manifold. First of all he doesn't understand how the presidency actually works. He seems to think that it is some sort of kingship where he can order everyone to do as he wishes. Second, he does not know how Congress works and that he has to work with it rather than ordering it about or threatening it. Third, he has little or no knowledge of US history and how other presidents managed to get things done. And fourth, he does not understand the checks and balances of the US system which were intended to make the US system the most democratic in the world and to prevent people like him from abusing their power. Without a bit of mental growth the Dumpster's presidency is pretty much doomed as he continues to repeat the same mistakes over and over again.
 

Ocean Breeze

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The destruction of a Republican Presidency will be complete. Pence will be their savior.



The White House IS NOT a sole proprietorship and Trump has no business trying to run it like one. In politics, sole proprietorships are also known as dictatorships and either the American Republic ends (and it might) or Trump is stopped and removed by whatever means as dictators eventually always are.
The tyrant still has a fair bit of support from his loyalists. Does that say that these loyalists are prepared to give up on the republic and become an autocratic state?? Are they prepared to follow their leader at all costs?? IF so.. they are behaving like a cult.


So who are these Trump loyalists?? What is their group DNA?

The VP is certainly silent through all this chaos... Hmmm.
 

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The Dumpster's problems are manifold. First of all he doesn't understand how the presidency actually works. He seems to think that it is some sort of kingship where he can order everyone to do as he wishes. Second, he does not know how Congress works and that he has to work with it rather than ordering it about or threatening it. Third, he has little or no knowledge of US history and how other presidents managed to get things done. And fourth, he does not understand the checks and balances of the US system which were intended to make the US system the most democratic in the world and to prevent people like him from abusing their power. Without a bit of mental growth the Dumpster's presidency is pretty much doomed as he continues to repeat the same mistakes over and over again.


I think you've summed him up fairly well. He's taken longer than I expected to smooth off the "rough edges". Up until recently I was sure he had achieved a "windfall" that he was going to make the most of. As far as I'm concerned he's had more than his share of opportunity, so now I guess we just have to wait and see how the chips fall. I don't see Mucho Scary as being a good acquisition & could well mark the "Divide".
 

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The Dumpster's problems are manifold. First of all he doesn't understand how the presidency actually works. He seems to think that it is some sort of kingship where he can order everyone to do as he wishes. Second, he does not know how Congress works and that he has to work with it rather than ordering it about or threatening it. Third, he has little or no knowledge of US history and how other presidents managed to get things done. And fourth, he does not understand the checks and balances of the US system which were intended to make the US system the most democratic in the world and to prevent people like him from abusing their power. Without a bit of mental growth the Dumpster's presidency is pretty much doomed as he continues to repeat the same mistakes over and over again.
What do you think will be his final undoing?? ( go out on a limb and take a guess if nec ;-)

excellent post BTW
 

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What do you think will be his final undoing?? ( go out on a limb and take a guess if nec ;-)

excellent post BTW

Politicians die a death of inches. Short of an outright crime the Dumpster is there to stay, but he's only been in office for 6 months. Eventually he's going to get worn down just like every other president. I'm guessing when failure follows failure he will eventually just give up, while proclaiming victory, of course.

In the meantime he has pretty much wasted his first six months. If he continues like this he will waste his first year and then we are into 2018 which is an election year. If he continues to fail, members of the GOP will start to distance themselves from him and he will become a lame duck. If he lasts until November of 2018 I expect a win for the Democrats in the House of Representatives, at which point his agenda (if he can figure out what it is) will be pretty much shot.
 

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it must at least break even. The military is like company security. It makes a profit by preventing loss.

"Break even"? How does the military generate any income at all short of invading and systematically looting other places?

We should start with the Swiss. They have piles of gold. The military will then even, this year.

The tyrant still has a fair bit of support from his loyalists. Does that say that these loyalists are prepared to give up on the republic and become an autocratic state?? Are they prepared to follow their leader at all costs?? IF so.. they are behaving like a cult.


So who are these Trump loyalists?? What is their group DNA?

The VP is certainly silent through all this chaos... Hmmm.

It is the Tea Party cult, writ new. The US is in some peril if this sizeable minority refuses to "give an inch" right to the bitter end.

The Dumpster's problems are manifold. First of all he doesn't understand how the presidency actually works. He seems to think that it is some sort of kingship where he can order everyone to do as he wishes. Second, he does not know how Congress works and that he has to work with it rather than ordering it about or threatening it. Third, he has little or no knowledge of US history and how other presidents managed to get things done. And fourth, he does not understand the checks and balances of the US system which were intended to make the US system the most democratic in the world and to prevent people like him from abusing their power. Without a bit of mental growth the Dumpster's presidency is pretty much doomed as he continues to repeat the same mistakes over and over again.

Trump has always run his businesses as a one man show and he likely figures that its the proper way to run America, too, His support base seems to admire the "lone leader, Ben Cartwright" approach and that is dangerously divisive to a country founded on consensus.

This is one of the glaring cultural differences between our country and the US. Here, there is a broad centrist consensus that means we have orderly transitions between Liberal and Conservative governments without too much drift from the center between the two. The US was like that once but it is so long ago that it is fading from memory. I would say that the Reagan Presidency was the start of the chasm opening up in American politics. Perhaps, it dates back to Nixon's time, although even Republicans could;t justify Nixon's behaviour.
 

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it must at least break even. The military is like company security. It makes a profit by preventing loss.



Well, I can see your point there. So, the US and NATO should pull out of all foreign operations, because they aren't causing any loss to us.


And your medicare costs should only be covered to the amount of provincial sales tax you personally pay, everything on top of that should come out of your pocket.


That's a good start.