The Syria Thread: Everything you wanted to know or say about it

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JLM

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Probably.

Do you find BarackObama's performance on the Syrian conflict to be inspiring from a geopolitical standpoint? I think his performance has been astonishing.

I don't have enough knowledge about the situation to be able to rate his performance. I do however have a few opinions in general regarding the human race. There is a huge mixture of good and bad. First we have to remove obstacles like skin colour and geographical borders. We are all members of the human race. There are certain members of the race who don't want peace, those we shouldn't control until/unless they become a threat. When others start gassing other members with chemicals, it's time to put a stop to it, the same as we would if someone down the street threw acid in my neighbour's face. Until a few days ago Obama was taking a stand, now he's trying to appease, as Neville Chamberlain found out, that don't work.
 

BaalsTears

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I don't have enough knowledge about the situation to be able to rate his performance. I do however have a few opinions in general regarding the human race. There is a huge mixture of good and bad. First we have to remove obstacles like skin colour and geographical borders. We are all members of the human race. There are certain members of the race who don't want peace, those we shouldn't control until/unless they become a threat. When others start gassing other members with chemicals, it's time to put a stop to it, the same as we would if someone down the street threw acid in my neighbour's face. Until a few days ago Obama was taking a stand, now he's trying to appease, as Neville Chamberlain found out, that don't work.

Obama is the steward of the American peoples. His legal and moral obligation is to be a good steward.

Do you think that the geopolitical position of the American people has been improved by Obama's vacillation in Syria?

After Obama's performance in Syria there is no longer any doubt anywhere in the world that Pax Americana is truly a thing of the past.
 

JLM

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Obama is the steward of the American peoples. His legal and moral obligation is to be a good steward.

Do you think that the geopolitical position of the American people has been improved by Obama's vacillation in Syria?

After Obama's performance in Syria there is no longer any doubt anywhere in the world that Pax Americana is truly a thing of the past.

He has a tough row to hoe, but personally I think he should have held his ground. On the other hand, when George Bush decided to hold the line and not put up with any sh*t the populace turned on him. People can be fickle, they can be gung ho until something goes wrong and then they disappear.
One other problem is they are just part of a team, many of the members not of their choosing.
 

B00Mer

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BaalsTears

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He has a tough row to hoe, but personally I think he should have held his ground. On the other hand, when George Bush decided to hold the line and not put up with any sh*t the populace turned on him. People can be fickle, they can be gung ho until something goes wrong and then they disappear.
One other problem is they are just part of a team, many of the members not of their choosing.

America's underlying problem is societal decadence. There are many facets to this decadence. Obama is merely a symptom of the underlying malady. Once a people becomes decadent it never recovers.
 

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America's underlying problem is societal decadence. There are many facets to this decadence. Obama is merely a symptom of the underlying malady. Once a people becomes decadent it never recovers.
That would be historically correct. America has been on the decline since the Raygun days. Unfortunately, most have been in a TV induced coma since and don't know it yet.
 

PoliticalNick

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A 44% Job Approval rating... and the lefties think that's good.

That was funny... a good laugh early in the morning.

That's 10 points higher than Bush was in his last term.

Another candidate for the Hague.

UN chief slams Syrian president - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has heavily criticised Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in unguarded comments made during a UN event.

Speaking at the International Women's Forum on Friday, Ban said Assad has "carried out many crimes against humanity" and that there must be "accountability" once war is over.

He also expressed his predictions for the chemical weapons report on Syria, due to be presented to him in the coming days.

"I believe the report will be an overwhelming report that the chemical weapons was used," said Ban.

Al Jazeera's diplomatic editor James Bays, reporting from the UN in New York, said it appeared that Ban believed he was speaking off the record.

"The UN secretary-general was speaking at an event, the International Women's Forum, and the proceedings of that event were being broadcast around the UN on the internal television system," he said.

"But, it seems Ban Ki-moon thought it was a private event."

Our correspondent said the remarks offered some insight into what the UN and its leader really thought about Syria and Assad.

"He is normally very measured in expressing his views on Syria, because of his role in the UN," he said.

"It seems from these unguarded comments that Ban believes he knows what he is going to hear."

Hospitals targeted

The secretary-general's comments came as a separate UN report was released saying Syrian government forces are bombing and shelling hospitals in rebel-held areas to prevent sick and wounded from getting treatment, acts which constitute war crimes.

Forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad purposefully denied people medical care as a "weapon of war", UN investigators added in a report released on Friday.

They also had details of a smaller number of incidents when rebel forces attacked hospitals.

According to the UN report on hospital attacks, they started as violence mounted in Syria's civil war in early 2012 and were continuing, it added.

Neither Assad's nor rebel forces immediately responded to the report's allegations, to be discussed on Monday in Geneva at a debate at the UN Human Rights Council.

The Syrian army has occupied hospitals, using them as bases for snipers, tanks and soldiers, according to the report.

Ambulance drivers, nurses and doctors have been attacked, arrested, tortured or disappeared in "insidious" violations of international law.

"Intentionally directing attacks against hospitals and places containing the sick and the wounded and against medical units using the Red Cross or Red Crescent emblem is a war crime in non-international armed conflict," the independent investigators said, referring to a legal term for civil war.

Patients beaten

Patients had also been beaten, burned with cigarettes and tortured to death in a military hospital in Mezzeh, Damascus, it said.
It has long been a tactic in battle to shoot the medics first if possible.
 

JLM

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That would be historically correct. America has been on the decline since the Raygun days. Unfortunately, most have been in a TV induced coma since and don't know it yet.

Hey- Easy on my pal Ronnie!

America's underlying problem is societal decadence. There are many facets to this decadence. Obama is merely a symptom of the underlying malady. Once a people becomes decadent it never recovers.

For some of the population, definitely not all of it. Some of us can still think for ourselves and not follow the Joneses into bankruptcy and poverty buying crap we don't need.
 

Omicron

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So... *hick*


http://stuff.digitalock.com/grandtarantella.mp3

... I hate Weasels, yet I have no problem with neutered Ferrets (if you don't neuter a female ferret she dies from not getting pregnant)

Yet others are telling me he's a gerbil.

Bullony...

Obviously the solution is to point the minutman missiles back at Russia and say, "He's your boy".
 
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Omicron

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Putin showed Obama up.. it's obvious, Putin has pecks and Obama has tits.
You are so obviously in need of getting a good lay by that which you love it would be a depression to the vitality of this thread to not have your innanity around when you get satisfied.

Every Ukranian around Edmonton can tell you everything.

Here's what it's like to engage one of their Natashas. Her name was Debbie.

http://stuff.digitalock.com/Augusts_Rhapsody.mp3
 
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B00Mer

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You are so obviously in need of getting a good lay by that which you love it would be a depression to the vitality of this thread to no have your innanity around when you get satisfied.

You're also obviously not from Canadian intelligence, because every Ukranian around Edmonton can tell you everything.

Here's what it's like to engage one of their Natashas. Her name was Debbie.

LOL. Guess you're not a fan of Russia and Putin.. oh well. Guess my joke few over your head.. pecks vs tits. geeez fizzle sticks. Nobody has a sense of humor anymore or they are in dire need of some ex-lax.

As far as getting laid.. done that 3 hrs ago.. I'm now in the getting drunk phase.. ;)
 

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LOL. Guess you're not a fan of Russia and Putin.. oh well. Guess my joke few over your head.. peck vs tits. geeez fizzle sticks. Nobody has a sense of humor anymore or they are in dire need of some ex-lax.
Actually I did a theoretical computational mathematical computer analysis one day, where I had to your job, and you had to do mine, and if I did yours I'd get killed, where if you did mine you'd get fired into poverty.
 

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That would be historically correct. America has been on the decline since the Raygun days. Unfortunately, most have been in a TV induced coma since and don't know it yet.

The America I loved started to change with the assassination of JFK. Putting LBJ into office had the effect of triggering an enormous expansion of the American military presence in Vietnam. The country seemed to recover during the Reagan years with the immersion of the Baby Boomers into the work force. But after the fall of the Soviet Union the USA just drifted in the ozone for ten years...until Osama ended the Dream Time. In many ways I am the Last of the Mohicans.



Putin showed Obama up.. it's obvious, Putin has pecks and Obama has tits.

Obama used to wear nipple rings. His wife insisted on it.
 

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The Muslims showing yet again just how medieval and barbaric they are.....

Beheaded in front of children, Assad's thugs are dragged to their doom and butchered like animals in some of the most brutal scenes to emerge from Syria's civil war



Daily Mail

The sword rests briefly on his neck as a blindfolded man kneels under a clear blue sky.

Moments later, the executioner raises his right arm, slashes downwards and the prisoner is dead.

The whole barbaric episode is watched by a crowd of jeering men, many of them armed.

And sitting on a low wall only a few feet from where the wretched captive died so violently is a line of young boys.

They were still there as the dead man’s head was dumped on his body. Another child, even younger, was led by the hand past the corpse.

Warning: Graphic content


As a cheering crowd of fighters look on, an executioner - believed to belong to the Al Qaeda-linked faction ISIS - lines up his sword in a practice run before delivering the final blow


A Syrian boy is held by the hand as he walks past the body of a beheaded Islamic militant loyal to Assad. An unnamed photojournalist was given rare access to the public execution in the town of Keferghan in the north of the country


A group of young children sit on a wall as they stare at the dead body


The severed head of a militant is held aloft. The photographer witnessed four public executions on August 31

The public execution was the last of four that took place on August 31 in the town of Keferghan in the north of the country.

The picture forms part of a set taken by a photojournalist - whose identity has not been revealed in order to protect him - who was given unprecedented access to the gruesome proceedings.

Among the other photos are an executioner lining up his sword before delivering the final blow as his victim kneels in the village square - and a victim's head being held aloft by a jubilant fighter.

Although it is difficult to confirm the political affiliation of those involved, an eyewitness told Time that the executioners belonged to ISIS - an Al-Qaeda faction opposed to President Bashar Assad's regime.

The captives, meanwhile, are understood to belong to the fearsome Shabiha ('ghosts') - thugs loyal to Assad who are said to roam the country massacring women and children.


The captives are understood to belong to the fearsome Shabiha ('ghosts') - thugs loyal to Assad who are said to roam the country massacring women and children


Above, a captive prepares to meet his fate. Describing the scene, the photographer said: 'That scene in Syria, that moment, was like a scene from the Middle Ages, the kind of thing you read about in history books'

The executions took place near Syria's largest city, Aleppo, which has seen intense fighting between the rebels and Assad's forces



'The war in Syria has reached the point where a person can be mercilessly killed in front of hundreds of people - who enjoy the spectacle,' said the photographer








The picture forms part of a set taken by the photojournalist, whose identity has not been revealed in order to protect him










 

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Funny.
Obama's actions have forced congress to go where it has not been for a long long time, into a bipartisan committee mode instead of a partisan version of Fraggle Rock
Declaring war is a function of Congress, but a lot of this function has been devolved over time to the POTUS and his 'professional hierarchy. Which is a real danger in Canada right now- parliamentary functions are being withered into 'trained seals'?
 

petros

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Obama has no choice now but go the domestic terror route to garner support.

Which city gets it?

How many kids will it take?
 

Omicron

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You Rush Limbaugh?? Ya insufferable little prick.

Hmm... so would it be worse to be a *big* prick?

Anyway, define the term "insufferable". I've never understood it.

Is it supposed to mean one feels no pain? Does it mean one feels no guilt?

If I beat myself with a lash while groveling before an avatar of Christ, does that make me "sufferable"?


Anyway, given how the trouble in Syria is fundamentaly sectarian Sunni-against-Shi'ia based, being fueled by poverty and boredom, like when Protestants and Catholics were attacking each other in northern Ireland, an idea keeps popping into my head...

... Yes, in an ideal world Uncle Sam would not be meddling in the middle-east, but his Wall Streeters are too chicken-sh*t low-vision non nation-minded to think about investing in energy self-sufficiency, and you'd think he'd at least just buy the oil and go like he does with those tin-pot tyrants in Nigeria, but Israel plopped themselves right in the middle of it, and they control all his banks.

So... if you're going to be meddling, why not go all the way?

Arabs are already accustomed to moving around and re-settling as refugees, so why not just divide the middle-east into three parts: east of the Tigris-Euphrates for Shi'ites, west of the Tigris-Euphrates for Sunnis, and the land between those two rivers for the normal objective rational Arabs who don't give a rat's a*s about denomination... the ones who just want to do business and live a comfortable life, thus turning the land between the two rivers into Arabia's greatest free-enterprise zone?

It's not like mass migration/relocation based on theology hasn't happened before. Who can forget how Pakistan and India split?

Speaking of which... hmm... how come Hindu and Muslims were okay living around each other on that subcontinent before the Brits showed up, but after British influence, tens of millions of Muslims and Hindu had to start hating each other and migrating in order to form separate nations?
 
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