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The CSTO arrives in Iraq and Syria

by Thierry Meyssan
The intervention of the CSTO (Collective Security Treaty Organisation) against terrorism in Iraq and Syria may be the beginning of a world order based on the cooperation and defence of civilian populations, or, on the contrary, a period of East-West confrontation in which the West openly supports terrorism. Contrary to popular belief, this military deployment is aimed less at defending Iraq and the Syrian Arab Republic than the members of the CSTO themselves. It is therefore not negotiable. The debates in the UNO General Assembly and Security Council on the 30th September will reveal the response of Washinton and its allies. In any case, nothing will ever be the same.










Keep in mind :

The CSTO will intervene as from October 2015, both in Iraq and Syria, against individuals described as « terrorists » by the UNO, in other words al-Qaïda, Daesh, and all the groups allied with them.
The CSTO are not trying to come to the aid of Haïder al-Abadi or Bachar el-Assad, but is being directly threatened by the jihadists.
The jihadists do not have the capacity to resist for very long against an international alliance if Iraq and Syria are included.
The United States, who have already waged a huge secret joint operation with the Syrian Arab Army in Al-Hasakah, are ready to conlude an agreement with the CSTO. Their British and French allies are ready to renounce the idea of overthrowing the Syrian Arab Republic.
Thierry Meyssan
 

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I can't remember now just who it was on the forum (maybe taxslave) who said several months ago that the Western nations should just keep their noses right out of matters pertaining to the Middle East. I believe whoever said it is probably onto something. In Canada we certainly have enough problems of our own without getting mixed up in someone else's screwball religion.
 

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I doubt it was him as he isn't that smart. It isn't a war over religion it is over possession of valuable land. Sorry to hear that comes as news to you.
Israel discovers enormous oil deposit in occupied Golan Heights, Syria
Editor’s note: Genie Energy which is also exploiting oil from Syria’s Golan Heights has strategic members on the board including former Vice President Dick Cheney, Michael Steinhardt, Jacob Rothschild and Rupert Murdoch.
Israeli oil prospectors have discovered a large oil deposit in the Golan Heights, a Syrian territory which it has occupied since 1967.

Israeli oil prospectors discovered a large oil deposit which could make the country self-sufficient in energy, Israeli business daily Globes reported.

The oil deposit lies in the Golan Heights, which is internationally recognized as Syrian territory but has been occupied by Israel since the 1967 war between Israel and Arab states. Israel is unable to import oil from nearby Arab oil-exporting countries, which do not recognize Israel and have no diplomatic relations with the country.

“We are talking about a strata which is 350 meters thick and what is important is the thickness and the porosity. On average in the world strata are 20-30 meters thick, so this is ten times as large as that, so we are talking about significant quantities,” geologist Yuval Bartov of Afek Oil and Gas told Israeli television.

Israel has previously worked to make itself self-sufficient in oil deposits by developing offshore drilling, but the new discovery is said to cover all of the country’s energy needs.
 

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Israeli oil prospectors have discovered a large oil deposit in the Golan Heights, a Syrian territory which it has occupied since 1967.
Awwww sucks to be Syria doesn't it. Maybe if Syria hadn't engaged in the decades long war of extermination against Israel, they'd still hold the Golan Heights. As it is, my heart pumps piss for Syria.
 

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Like you have a heart.
Not real up on how history actually played out are you?
Educate yourself and since you are lazy you can start at 6:10. (I'm pretty damn sure Miko Peled knows more about the 'facts' than you do. Care to list the differences?)
 

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Yup. You think they woulda learned from Afghanistan.

Not that I'm looking down on them. We didn't learn from Vietnam.
I'm pretty sure they did, too bad 'our side' didn't learn anything.


How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen

How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen
by A D HEMMING

Q: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs [“From the Shadows”], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

Brzezinski: It isn’t quite that. We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn’t believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don’t regret anything today?

Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic [integrisme], having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

Brzezinski: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn’t a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.
 

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Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers.
That is wrong on two counts. Christianity is still the leading religion in the world with 2.2 billion followers. Although Islam IS a close second coming in around 2 billion.

Are you kidding!

The Iranians just put boots on the ground and ISIS has already bagged themselves a Revolutionary Guard General!

Iranian General Killed in Syria by Islamic State - WSJ

A GENERAL!
Little known fun fact. Iran uses France's army manual. :wink: