The Shame of Being an American

taxslave

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I'm in Santa Cruz, California. I am listed in the phone book under "Bloody Annoying."

If Homeland Security wants me, they can come and get me. Until I am bound, gagged and frog marched to Obama's Gitmo, I will speak.

One of the hallmarks of free speech is the unfettered ability to ridicule public officials like Obama. When that right ends America will be even more diminished than it is now.

The way to deal with people who one finds annoying on a forum is to put them on one's ignore list.

Your "free speech" is getting to be annoying to people with more than double digit IQ. Sort of like junior bush.

Obama is the best thing to happen to the world since Clinton retired.
 

gopher

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Paul Craig Roberts - CONSERVATIVE

Gee, now why would anyone want to quote him???


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Saddam Hussein?

Reagan's ally.

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Ann Coulter?

''Jews need to be perfected''

Evidently Coulter believes in Hitler's ideology since he said that a generation before she did.

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Democrats lost nations to communism?

It was Republican Wall Street that financed Marx and all commies:






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By contrast the war against communism was called the Truman Doctrine because it was that Democrat who saved the world from Republican communism.
 

darkbeaver

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Have we made a wrong turn. I will pull over and have some more beer while I check the map. No we're still in OZ. Ooops I locked my keys in the boot. For an American to have shame is a very good thing for America. It means you are properly aware of the national predicament and there is a national predicament. Of course many Canadians have been ashamed of their own part in the crisis/disaster unfolding faster maybe than many of us would like it to. I think it's very proper to be ashamed of squandering the future of our own children and their children. the waste, the stupidity, the slaughter. What the hell is there to be proud of? If there's no shame then there is no hope.
 
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BaalsTears

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Fool who bury head in sand expose butt for boot....

I know it's hard to deal with me. I focus on contradictions between ideology and street level reality.

Ideology is much like religion. A kernal of a partial truth surrounded by blind faith and hope.

...Obama is the best thing to happen to the world since Clinton retired.

I wonder if the dead and dying in Afghanistan would agree with you? What do you think?

Paul Craig Roberts - CONSERVATIVE

Gee, now why would anyone want to quote him???


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Saddam Hussein?

Reagan's ally.

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Ann Coulter?

''Jews need to be perfected''

Evidently Coulter believes in Hitler's ideology since he said that a generation before she did.

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Democrats lost nations to communism?

It was Republican Wall Street that financed Marx and all commies:






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By contrast the war against communism was called the Truman Doctrine because it was that Democrat who saved the world from Republican communism.



Support for Obama constitutes support for more war in Afghanistan. That simply can't be denied.
 

darkbeaver

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Obama sucks big time. That's not news. He's in the offal office. Suck central.

What trees. There not on my map. Where are my bloody keys? I'm going to run out of beer and die.
 

Cliffy

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BaalsTears - for some reason my mind translates that to sweaty balls. You are as obsessive about Obama as Jack was. His obsession led him to become overly emotionally distraught and had to be timed out for attacking certain members who did not agree with him. May I suggest that you take a Valium or smoke a big fatty to lower your blood pressure and prevent a stroke.
 

BaalsTears

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hahaha - Dark Beaver is on a hot streak!

Baals - I've said before and will say again,


F^CK BOTH OF THOSE D@MN WARS!!!

Well put. I come from the other side of the aisle philosophically than you do. But it should be apparent to everyone that America is bleeding out in the Hindu Kush. America is trying to build a nation in south central Asia while it's own infrastructure crumbles. The power of the status quo can be found on both left and right in America.

Conservatives are the only ones in Washington, DC who are making plans to cut the Defense budget. Obama's Secty. of Defense speaks out against cuts, and Obama's budget doesn't make any serious defense cuts.

Quite frankly, America must come home to save itself. But Obama is still trying to maintain the vestiges of empire.

There are many things over which you and I can contend, but this stupid objectiveless war is not one of them.

BaalsTears - for some reason my mind translates that to sweaty balls. You are as obsessive about Obama as Jack was. His obsession led him to become overly emotionally distraught and had to be timed out for attacking certain members who did not agree with him. May I suggest that you take a Valium or smoke a big fatty to lower your blood pressure and prevent a stroke.

It's too late for me. I'm waiting for the lights to go out. There are things I have to say before I go.
 

gopher

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'' Obama is still trying to maintain the vestiges of empire.
There are many things over which you and I can contend, but this stupid objectiveless war is not one of them.''


When I first joined this forum (I believe it was in 2005) the first people I quoted who opposed Bush's war were the John Birch Society. A true conservative adheres to the teachings of our Founding Fathers and opposes foreign wars. But you have to be principled in order to do so.
 

Cliffy

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It's too late for me. I'm waiting for the lights to go out. There are things I have to say before I go.
It is never too late to smell the roses. Spending your last days railing against the machine is a complete waste of time. The world is a place of extreme contrast, most of it caused by man's indifference, greed and avarice. Sounds like you need to go to the most beautiful place you know and do some shrooms or vitamin L.
 

petros

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Very good. :) But unlike the original Baal, I do not demand human sacrifices. Instead, I do appreciate it when some tail is wagged my way in the form of votive offerings. :)
One of the coolest places I've ever been.

It is never too late to smell the roses. Spending your last days railing against the machine is a complete waste of time. The world is a place of extreme contrast, most of it caused by man's indifference, greed and avarice. Sounds like you need to go to the most beautiful place you know and do some shrooms or vitamin L.
The best way to rail against the machine is to not shop.
 

darkbeaver

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The objectives of the war are explicitly spelled out ( FSD, Full Spectrum Domination) are they not?. That my friends is the goal of any and all empires.In the present case it seems certain that the direction and velocity are now irreversable. Certainly from the financial perspective it has been for some time. The machine needs to be reset to zero cuz the numbers are all ****ed up and only war or a miracle can restart our crooked economies. IMHO

I prefer the miracle myself.