The Post-Election Thread

[Twin_Moose]

John Ivison: Morneau's deficits are ballooning before the Liberal spending promises even hit

Finance ministers to discuss CPP, health transfers and improving stabilization program today

Finance Minister Bill Morneau will meet with his provincial and territorial counterparts today to discuss the state of the economy and how they can all work together to boost the strength of some key government programs, including the Fiscal Stabilization Program.
On his way into a dinner with the finance ministers Monday evening Morneau said that he was also looking forward to discussing potential changes to the Canada Pension Plan.
"We have some issues of national concern that we want to talk about; the Canada Pension Plan and how it can be enhanced, potentially, for the benefit of Canadians," he said.
The finance minister is scheduled to address the media Tuesday at 3:30 p.m. ET after a day of meetings with premiers in Ottawa. CBC.ca will carry the event live.
Morneau said he is expecting the finance ministers to use Tuesday's meeting to make their pitch to the federal government for updating the stabilization fund.
The Fiscal Stabilization Program is a relatively small federal program, that provides financial assistance to provinces facing a year-over-year decline in non-resource revenues that are greater than five per cent.
The maximum a province can receive under the program is $60 per person and the provinces of Alberta, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland and Labrador, which have been struggling economically since global oil prices began declining in 2014, want that cap lifted so stabilization will better reflect today's realities.
Update needed
"Obviously this program hasn't been changed since 1995, so we are open minded with respect to how it works, or the changes people might propose. And once we have those, we'll take that into consideration and do some analysis of our own," Morneau said Monday.
Ontario's Minister of Finance Rod Phillips said he was also looking forward to speaking with Morneau about increasing the federal health transfer as well as presenting the premiers' requests on stabilization.
"I think we have something to put forward, a great starting point," said Phillips of stabilization. "It reflects, particularly, the emphasis that Alberta and Saskatchewan and Newfoundland and Labrador have brought forward."
"I thank minister Morneau for putting it on the agenda, which was a request that we made. Obviously the federal government will need a chance to look at it, evaluate it and then respond."
Phillips said that more has to be done to help provinces that are facing economic challenges.
Quebec's Finance Minister Eric Girard told reporters Monday that his province is backing the demand for changes to stabilization that have been asked for by oil producing provinces.

 

[spilledthebeer]

here is the Winston Churchill definition of a fanatic......................................


"a person who cannot change his mind.............................................


and will not change the subject"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently the name Cliffy is a native word meaning fanatic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In otheer news -a bunch of natives have gone back to court .............................


to again halt construction of the Kinder Morgan pipeline.................................


because there have not been enough "consultations"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently radical natives think the word "consultation" is synonymous with "bribe"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And it is my understanding that NO work has been done yet............................


on the terminal in B.C. that will be required to load oil onto tankers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy Justin plans to handle all this pipe crap in such fashion................................


that he DOES NOT LIVE LONG ENOUGH to see it completed....................................


even if he lives to a RIPE OLD AGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Serryah]

I disappointed that the Conservatives ran with such a poor leader. There is no way Trudeau should have won the election. Canada is going to regret electing a party run by a former drama teacher. People in many cases were voting against Scheer, not for the Liberals.

Exactly, they were, because Scheer was a moron.

 

[Decapoda]

I disappointed that the Conservatives ran with such a poor leader. There is no way Trudeau should have won the election. Canada is going to regret electing a party run by a former drama teacher. People in many cases were voting against Scheer, not for the Liberals.

I find it incredible, regardless of how ineffective he appeared, that people would vote against Scheer...before they would vote against an unethical, racist, fake feminist, gropey, blackface wearing, banana stuffing, economy destroying, lying, deficit growing, narcissistic, hypocritical, virtue signalling, light weight clown like Trudeau. It astounds me that anyone would give this man-child fool their vote, let alone enough to give him a minority mandate. There was certainly a lot to vote against in the last election, but I didn't see personal belief, faith, and being "too nice of a guy" as being the deal breaker considering the alternative.

As I said, Canadian voters have to wear this...not Trudeau. We as a country have revealed our shameless tolerance for unethical, immoral, unintelligent, careless, empty headed governance. We deserve exactly what we get from here on in.

 

[Hoid]

You do go on.

 

[Decapoda]

You do go on.

I could, if only there were enough adjectives. I feel like I didn't quite cover it.

 

[pgs]

John Ivison: Morneau's deficits are ballooning before the Liberal spending promises even hit

Finance ministers to discuss CPP, health transfers and improving stabilization program today

Wasn’t one of their first acts in office rolling back changes to the CPP ?

 

[pgs]

I find it incredible, regardless of how ineffective he appeared, that people would vote against Scheer...before they would vote against an unethical, racist, fake feminist, gropey, blackface wearing, banana stuffing, economy destroying, lying, deficit growing, narcissistic, hypocritical, virtue signalling, light weight clown like Trudeau. It astounds me that anyone would give this man-child fool their vote, let alone enough to give him a minority mandate. There was certainly a lot to vote against in the last election, but I didn't see personal belief, faith, and being "too nice of a guy" as being the deal breaker considering the alternative.

As I said, Canadian voters have to wear this...not Trudeau. We as a country have revealed our shameless tolerance for unethical, immoral, unintelligent, careless, empty headed governance. We deserve exactly what we get from here on in.

Their parents , grandparents and great grandparents all voted liberal , they have always voted liberal . They heard little of Trudeau’s scandals as they are to busy running their everyday life to pay attention . Once it was time to decide all they heard was gay marriage and abortion . Better vote liberal .

 

[Hoid]

Who would you have them vote for?

A guy who lied about being an insurance broker and lied about being an American?

A guy who won't march on a gay pride parade because it hurts his feelings?

 

[Twin_Moose]

Rona Ambrose most favoured by Canadians to be next Tory leader, survey suggests

Followed closely behind by Peter MacKay, and Kenney

 

[spilledthebeer]

I disappointed that the Conservatives ran with such a poor leader. There is no way Trudeau should have won the election. Canada is going to regret electing a party run by a former drama teacher. People in many cases were voting against Scheer, not for the Liberals.

FACE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Dumping ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS IN NEWly BORROWED GRAVY.....................


onto the civil service union HOG gravy train....................................


NOT COUNTING all the new gravy starting after the October 2019 election...............................


is enough to BUY YOU A MINORITY GOVT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On the plus side we are soon to do a very unpleasant FACE PLANT..............................


straight into the debt wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If you want to know what it will feel and look like....................................


just look back at the news coverage of RIOTS IN Greece!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or look at the growing trouble and unrest in France!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Unless LIE-berals are quickly headed off and their plans thwarted...............................


our future will be bathed in RED INK..........................................


and drenched IN TEAR GAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Even former Privy Council Clerk Michael Wernick warned us of VIOLENCE TO COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Hoid]

CBC is spreading a rumor the Jean Charest is going to run for the leadership

 

[Cliffy]

Since governments are owned and operated by the ruling elite, participation is akin to voting for which slave master you want to rule over you. The present system does nothing to encourage people to participate. Most are so fed up with the present system that they think there is no point in participation. When you can get a majority government with 35% of the votes, Most people feel they are not being represented and that their votes are wasted. We really need proportional representation. My preference would be to get rid of the party system altogether and have all seats filled by independents, like in Nunavut. That way reps are beholding to their constituents and not party or the ones who financed their election. Everything is done by consensus, which means compromise and cooperation. The present system is like a hockey game where you join a team and you are loyal to your team whether they win or lose. That is pretty dumb.

 

[captain morgan]

John Ivison: Morneau's deficits are ballooning before the Liberal spending promises even hit

Finance ministers to discuss CPP, health transfers and improving stabilization program today

This sure makes Jason Kenney's threat to opt out of CPP, RCMP, etc kinda interesting relative what it does to the fantasy #'s that Morneau has provided

 

[Hoid]

They can get $4.5 billion back by unloading the trans mountain pipeline on some suckers.

 

[captain morgan]

They can get $4.5 billion back by unloading the trans mountain pipeline on some suckers.

Tater tot was the sucker

 

[spilledthebeer]

CBC is spreading a rumor the Jean Charest is going to run for the leadership

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SOMEBODY has been smoking that legal WEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As if Conservatives would accept a FORMER RED TORY JACKASS..............................


and CURRENT FAILED LIE-beral has been as a contender!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Charest attempting to rejoin the Conservatives after all this time is WAY MORE ABSURD...............................


than the spectacle of NDPee Bob Rae DESTROYING HIS CAREER in Ontari-owe with his Rae Days insanity...........................


and being forced OUT OF NDPee to JOIN THE LIE-beral party as its INTERIM LEADER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral mindset may encompass such "moral flexibility".....................................


but Conservative have NO NEED to compromise themselves as LIE-berals do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Hoid]

Tater tot was the sucker

Now we agree.

 

[spilledthebeer]

Now we agree.

Oh dear me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BOTH hemerHOID and Capt Morgan ARE WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The suckers are those Cdns who voted for Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kinder Morgan stock holders are not suckers - because they recognized how determined LIE-berals were to KILL the entire Cdn oil



patch and the stockholders cut their losses by selling the pipeline!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Our idiot Boy was not a sucker because he bought the pipeline and has SUCCEEDED in preventing it from being built..............



EXACTLY AS HE PLANNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is Cdn tax payers who allowed Our idiot Boy to be re-elected who are the suckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



We are the owners of a HALF PIPELINE - that cannot be completed as long as LIE-berals are in power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is Cdns who are being denied all those jobs and all that tax revenue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is Cdns who will continue to endure LIE-beral rationing of health care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is Cdn tax payers who will continue to pay the interest on insane LIE-beral debts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Danbones]

Trudeau government wants to raise carbon tax and slash rebates


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Justin Trudeau’s government is slashing carbon tax rebates in provinces pushing back against the federal carbon tax. The new environment minister is also not ruling out an increase to the carbon tax, just two months after the federal election.

Trudeau’s mandate letter to Minister Jonathan Wilkinson says the new minister should be “strengthening existing and introducing new greenhouse gas reducing measures,” citing Canada’s 2030 Paris accord targets and a 2050 goal of net-zero emissions.

This comes just a couple weeks after a key player from Canada’s Eco-Fiscal Commission said Canada needs to quadruple its carbon tax to meet these targets.

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