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spilledthebeer

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Trudeau government wants to raise carbon tax and slash rebates


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Justin Trudeau’s government is slashing carbon tax rebates in provinces pushing back against the federal carbon tax. The new environment minister is also not ruling out an increase to the carbon tax, just two months after the federal election.

Trudeau’s mandate letter to Minister Jonathan Wilkinson says the new minister should be “strengthening existing and introducing new greenhouse gas reducing measures,” citing Canada’s 2030 Paris accord targets and a 2050 goal of net-zero emissions.

This comes just a couple weeks after a key player from Canada’s Eco-Fiscal Commission said Canada needs to quadruple its carbon tax to meet these targets.

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Well, it isn't as if we didn't see this coming...


WELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy has to pay for all that civil service union HOG GRAVY somehow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And since we are perilously close to the debt wall already.....................................................



More borrowing is NOT AN OPTION ANY MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And just look at the civil service union HOG dig fight with govt...............................


for the remaining drops of gravy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






Here is yet another article illustrating the amazing greed and selfishness of our civil service union HOGS!! With some comments of my own on brackets):

The two-tier health-care questions come to the courts

By Lorne Gunter

Published: November 20, 2019, Updated: November 20, 2019 7:50 AM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists

For more than 20 years, Dr. Brian Day of Vancouver has been fighting to give Canadians more health care options. Yes, those options include being able to buy private insurance for private procedures. And that has put Day, a former head of the Canadian Medical Association, at odds with the political and medical establishments.

This week, final arguments will be received by a federal judge in a health-freedom case Day has been battling for a decade.

On the other side from the 72-year-old orthopedic surgeon, who opened the private Cambie Surgery Centre in 1996, are a host of powerful vested interests – the B.C. government, the federal government, public-sector health unions and lobby groups such as Canadian Doctors for Medicare and the B.C. Health Coalition.

(As we know - WE ALREADY HAVE two tier medicine since civil service union HOGS ALREADY HAVE tax payer funded health care “top ups”!! Everything from better access to prescription drugs, to private hospital room options to low or no cost dental work!! In addition - NO HOG - working for ANY of our four levels of govt - is required to pay the Ontari-owe health care levy!! One employed Cdn in three works for govt so HOGS have already reached the upper tier AT OUR EXPENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The trial judge’s decision is expected Dec. 6.

(And of course NONE of the current health benefits is enough for HOGS!! They see NO REASON why they should line up with ordinary people for treatment - hence this endless discussion about two tier health care and user pay options!! HOGS expect to win big by getting US to pay MORE for their grand health care!!!!!!!!!!!)

Basically, arguments in the case come down to Day’s contention that people who are forced to wait months or even years for specialized treatments suffer, sometimes irreparably. Meanwhile, the forces lined up against Day insist people don’t suffer.

(The “suffering” argument is a VILE RED HERRING!! HOGS and a cabal of GREEDY DOCTORS AND NURSES DO NOT want to discuss the very real suffering of people who have been HEAVILY TAXED to pay for HOG privileges!!! We know that many Cdns have to CHOOSE between paying for food and for needed prescription drugs and the HOG two tier medical argument will MAKE THIS ISSUE GROW WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

I think it is ludicrous to insist, as government lawyers have in the Day case, that no one suffers while they wait for a year-and-a-half or two years for a hip or knee replacement. They were suffering the day they went to their family doc or they wouldn’t have gone in the first place.

(It is ALSO LUDICROUS that HOGS should be demanding MORE PRIVILEGES at OUR EXPENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

No one goes to their doctor while feeling fine and asks to be put on a waiting list just in case they’re not fine 24 months down the road.

Or what about the anguish someone suffers while they wait months for an MRI knowing everyday they wait a tumour, perhaps malignant, might be growing inside them?

(Those people would not have to wait so long if LIE-berals WERE NOT RATIONING HEALTH CARE and saving gravy for themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

But even if the friends of the government health monopolies are right and no one truly suffers while waiting for vital care, how can anyone in a free society be told they cannot spend their own after-tax dollars on perfectly legal services?

(The HOGS are AT LIBERTY to shuffle off to Buffalo and PAY THERE!! The truth is that HOGS WANT US to pay for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Ah, you say, that’s easy: Because letting lots of people out of our single-payer system might mean fewer doctors and resources in the public system to treat the rest of us.

Even if that were true, that argument amounts to an admission we are not living in a free society. We are suspending freedom just to ensure everyone is lashed to the same mast of a groaning, creaking, sinking ship.

(HOGS are fascinated by THEIR RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS - while trampling OURS!! One has only to look at our Ontari-owe teacher HOGS trying to sue the Ford govt for limiting HOG Gravy GRABBING in spite of the HOG choice to ignore over a hundred years of law and precedent regarding how to regulate a biz with a MONOPOLY like that of teacher HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

While the defenders of universal medicare may claim they have the best interests of everyone at heart, deep down what truly motivates many of them is a gnawing fear that someone else might use their own money to buy faster care than they themselves are willing to pay for.

If the friends of government monopoly care are so concerned about fairness for life’s necessities, than they should also be arguing that no one “needs” a bigger car, fancier house, finer clothes or pricier food. No doubt many of our health-care socialists do also make such arguments.

(IN fact LIE-berals have long argued that those who have MORE should pay higher taxes- and then LIE-berals discreetly let HOGS OFF THE HOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The truth, though, is that we already have two-tiered health care in Canada. We just don’t see it.

Every year about 70,000 Canadians go Stateside or overseas for heart surgeries, cancer treatments, joint replacements and eye surgeries that our government-run systems cannot provide in a timely manner.

Somehow that doesn’t bother medicare activists the same way a private clinic down the street would. Why don’t they also insist citizens be prohibited from traveling internationally for faster care? It’s the same thing, ethically.

(A good many of those who go international in their search for medical care have been essentially ABANDONED by the Cdn medical establishment!! WE should think of the Broncos team player - paralyzed in that bus crash who went to Thailand for experimental spinal chord treatment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Or we could talk about the teacher who sold his house to finance cancer treatment in India after the Cdn medical system decreed he was past any hope of a cure!!!!!!!!)

(Or we could talk of the neighbour of mine who went to Mexico in a FAILED EFFORT to get cancer treatment from some QUACK offering a magical cure!!!!!!!!)

(Or what about the former Newfoundland premier nick named Danny Millions because he was so wealthy- and he went to United States for heart surgery for several reasons - first because he wanted PRIVACY and he could be anonymous down south - no news people trying to get photos of him in a hospital bed!! And secondly for reasons of EGO - Danny wanted the surgery scar to be under his arm pit - instead of front and centre on his chest -and Cdn health care wont do it that way because it takes MUCH LONGER AND COSTS MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(So vain Danny Millions went to the Yankees and paid -both for his privacy and to have surgery done discreetly from the side!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The BIG QUESTION in each case IS WHO PAYS???????????????????????)

(And of course during the Mike Harris era - lots of people shuffled off to Buffalo to pay out of their pockets to get things like ultra sound tests done quicker - because LIE-berals were rationing health care as usual and ultra sound machines were few in number and often in need of lengthy repairs in Ontari-owe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Our choices are not just the Canadian way versus the American. Every major state-funded health system in Europe permits citizens to purchase private insurance to pay for private procedures, including France, Germany and the Scandinavian social democracies.

With luck, Brian Day will win that kind of choice for Canadians, too.

(Day is IGNORING the ugly reality of that third option - to FORCE LIE-berals to fund health care MORE HONESTLY!! In the past 20 years - the number of kids in our school system has DROPPED while the number of patients seeking aid in hospitals has soared - yet the LIE-beral education budget INCREASED FIFTY PERCENT FASTER than the health care budget -meaning LIE-berals apparently believe they can BUY MORE VOTES in the education system - and SCREW health care seekers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

Hoid

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final jobs data shows 320K jobs created in 2019 - 1.70 growth - which is better than 2018

it seems the voters made the logical choice
 

spilledthebeer

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final jobs data shows 320K jobs created in 2019 - 1.70 growth - which is better than 2018

it seems the voters made the logical choice




TOO BAD the population is growing FASTER than the number of jobs being created!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Too bad TO MANY of the jobs are CRAP part time garbage............................


that always deceitful LIE-berals count as being beneficial in spite of the BELOW POVERTY PAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Too bad that the LIE-beral debt and deficits are going to bring the ENTIRE ECONOMY.........................


to a screeching halt and LIE-berals drive us face first into the DEBT WALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


TOO BAD that the words of former Privy Council Clerk Wernick ARE LIKELY TO COME TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IF LIE-berals keep pushing their two tier economy on us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are pushing ordinary people under as they raise up their civil service union HOG ALLIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



We have seen the CDN future played out in Greece and France and Hong Kong......................................


and IT IS FULL OF TEAR GAS AND RIOT POLICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As people FIGHT BACK against their BANKRUPT LIE-beral govts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!